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lucky331   . Aug 27 2015 16:10. Posts 1124

Today, we have begun inviting players in the United Kingdom to opt-in to a one month closed-beta testing period beginning September 1st of a new VIP Reward mechanism called VIP Steps. On October 1st, the VIP Steps system will go live for all of the UK and on January 1st, we expect the VIP Steps reward mechanism to be rolled out globally which will replace the current method FPPs are earned.

VIP Steps are a new way of earning FPPs by completing a Progress Bar that will be displayed on the table and in the lobby. This progress bar will show players how close they are to completing their next VIP Step and how many FPPs they receive each time that they complete a VIP Step. Instead of linearly earning FPPs in the background, FPPs will be released upon completion of the progress bar at the table. One of the primary purposes of Steps is to surface VIP Rewards to players so that there is a more intuitive relationship between playing and earning FPPs. The visualization is a key component to this. We expect this to be a more engaging method for players to earn and understand their rewards. The Steps are designed so that most players can complete a Step in a typical session or two and will thus have something to play for in any given session.

VIP Steps will also help players track their progression towards maintaining and increasing their status in the VIP Club by showing how many Steps are needed to either maintain or progress to the next tier. The Steps progress bar will also display notifications when approaching a new VIP Status, and alerts when risking loss of VIP status due to the end of the month approaching. Players will be able to customize whether you want to see these notifications or not. At the end of the month for monthly statuses, and end of the year for Supernova+ VIP statuses, players will receive 50% of the prorated value of their incomplete current Step.

The 50% prorated value for an incomplete Step was not designed as a means to reduce rewards, but rather to improve player engagement with VIP Rewards and incentivize players to complete their Step at the end of the month. The values of the Steps are configured with the understanding that not every player will complete their last Step and earn its full reward. Given our commitment to keep 2015 VIP Club Rewards unchanged, for the 2015 United Kingdom implementation players will receive the full 100% value, and will thus earn either the same amount of FPPs, or more, than in the current UK VIP Club. VPPs requirements for monthly and annual statuses are not affected by VIP Steps for the UK implementation.

There will be some bugs and issues with the VIP Steps progress bar that launches in beta form on September 1st. We will be striving to fix these as fast as possible, and we also have future plans to add more exciting features to the progress bar which we expect will improve player awareness of their rewards, especially among casual players. If you’re outside the UK and curious, below is a screenshot tutorial of the expanded view dropdown of the progress bar.



We have set up a dedicated inbox to address any questions or issues with Steps, so you are welcome to contact us: [email]vipsteps@pokerstars.com[/email]. You can also read more about VIP Steps on the UK webpage: [url]www.pokerstars.uk/vip/steps[/url]. We will be monitoring 2+2 for feedback, however, our main method of communicating updates and improvements during the beta period will be in a post on the PokerStarsBlog which will be updated regularly. We will update this TwoPlusTwo post with a link to the blog when it is up and running.

Finally, we understand that players are eager to hear what changes may be coming for 2016. We continue to evaluate and expect to be able to announce changes in October.

Dylan
PokerStars VIP Team

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lucky331   . Aug 27 2015 16:11. Posts 1124

A comment from a 2p2'er:


 

So, I've read through it, and here's how I understand it


The VIP levels are being broken down into smaller steps, and the size of each step depends on how far you've already progressed up the ladder, with the steps getting bigger as you get further each month/year

AFAICT, it looks like if you make enough VPP to finish each step then you're unaffected and don't lose any FPP value compared to the old (current) scheme

In fact, if I've read it right, you even get a little bonus for every five steps you complete, looks to be 2% extra FPP if you complete each fifth step (4% for Bronze)


But the flip side is twofold

1) you don't get your FPP immediately, you only get it in a chunk when you complete your step, so Stars gets to hold on to your FPP value for a bit longer, and when multiplied across the whole player base that adds up to a lot of money that they can keep their grubby little mitts on for a bit longer

2) (and this is the real sting) is that when you don't earn enough VPP to complete a step then you lose 50% of the FPP you would have previously earned since the last complete step



In summary, it looks like yet another money grab by Stars, because almost everyone won't finish exactly at the end of a step level, and so will lose that 50% FPP value. It's only a little bit per person, but it all adds up to a decent amount of money saved for Stars

Also, looks like .UK players only at the moment, but if this is a "success" then I don't think anyone would be surprised if this was rolled out across the whole site.



lucky331   . Aug 27 2015 16:12. Posts 1124


 

That 2% hike for the end of a 5th step will not make up for the 50% loss of a level left incomplete. For a supernova who makes say 12.5k VPPs/month this really sucks. The little hikes for step 5 does not make up for the 50% loss of the current incomplete step.

e.g. SN makes 12.5k VPPs/month, that's 43750FPPs /month in old money. Every month they lose 4375fpps 0.5(2500VPPs X 3.5) = 4375. And they gain 1750fpps at the end of every 5 steps.

They would be doing 30 steps per year, so +10500fpps from step 5 hikes, but -52500fpps from the 50% decrease for incomplete steps.

Gets worse for closer to the 5k VPP step; regs who maintain say 14k on their schedule, ouch. And is better for precisely 10k/month SN regs....

Anyone wanna check if this looks right?



whamm!   Albania. Sep 05 2015 14:09. Posts 11625

Pstars uses these insanely complicated and deceptive math changes to skim your vpps. It's amazing how much they've taken out of players since 2008. Personally I think they taken away more than 70% since then.


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Sep 06 2015 21:02. Posts 9634

I don't understand why are people surprised at this
They've been trying to run politics that fuck players up since years. If it passes - good. If not they just roll it back and apologize to the players as if it's a minor miscalculation on their side ... ridiculous :D
Thats what happens when monopoly strikes
Even at promotions - last MEGAOFFER promo a guy only deposited to get the bonuses and then withdrew his money, there is no requirement to play but instead they locked his account and told him the next he does this there ll be consequences you cant just deposit and not play and they are suspicious of money laundering ... how such money laundering would work eventhough you deposit through banks and who would launder only 100$ is beyond my understandings.... - so retarded.

Moral of the story:
Fuck PS


lucky331   . Sep 07 2015 09:06. Posts 1124

Party Poker should take advantage of this. In house 30% RB would be nice if Party decided to market it to disappointed Stars grinders. And they should get rid of the withdrawal fees.


 



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