Raidern   Brasil. Aug 09 2015 05:28. Posts 4243
liiiiink?
im a regular at nl5
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Floofy   Canada. Aug 09 2015 05:30. Posts 8708
i had johnson and i don't get it
Johnson landed more strikes, more SS, way harder strikes, and was the aggressor all rounds in round 2. How can you give it to the running guy who only did sissy strikes..
soberstone   United States. Aug 09 2015 05:31. Posts 2662
Dana White ?@danawhite 1m1 minute ago
The main event better be ready if they leave those 2 judges in there!!! Hopefully they are being sent packing RIGHT NOW.
I understand Dana Whitecan be an idiot and an asshole.
But this is the sentiment of every single person on my Twitter timeline
Last edit: 09/08/2015 05:32
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PuertoRican   United States. Aug 09 2015 05:36. Posts 13044
Dana White ?@danawhite 12m12 minutes ago
OMFG!!!!!!!!! That is HORRIBLE!!! That why u can't leave it to these judges!!!!!!!
Dana White ?@danawhite 6m6 minutes ago
The main event better be ready if they leave those 2 judges in there!!! Hopefully they are being sent packing RIGHT NOW.
Rekrul is a newb
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iakim322   United States. Aug 09 2015 05:39. Posts 1335
Had beneil. Had mj 2-1 obv but also obv suspected it could be one of those 2 outters. Sucks but calling the difference of basically 1/2 of a round (literally no damage was done for half a round) being scored diff on two judges cards isn't the most unbelievable thing.
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iakim322   United States. Aug 09 2015 05:41. Posts 1335
Assuming every1 scored rd 3 for beneil.
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iakim322   United States. Aug 09 2015 05:46. Posts 1335
Clearly so wrong on the bet. Beneil looked amateurish at many times. But mj wanted to press for a title shot. He coasted that third round after really barely hurting the guy in front of him in a showcase fight
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iakim322   United States. Aug 09 2015 05:59. Posts 1335
Glover looked really good
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Floofy   Canada. Aug 09 2015 06:00. Posts 8708
On August 09 2015 04:59 iakim322 wrote:
Glover looked really good
He was getting owned standing imo, but his take downs and ground game worked so well
james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;(
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iakim322   United States. Aug 09 2015 06:03. Posts 1335
Yeah standing...but Osp is really long and athletic anyways. Glover looked quicker and had a lot more burst than his last fight
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PuertoRican   United States. Aug 09 2015 06:03. Posts 13044
Glover didn't look great, but he was the more well-rounded and experienced fighter going in.
OSP is overrated, just like several other large, black fighters in the UFC.
We have next weekend off. UFC comes back on Sunday, August 23rd with UFC FN 74: Max Holloway vs. Charles Oliveira
Rekrul is a newb
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soberstone   United States. Aug 09 2015 06:06. Posts 2662
OSP's cardio was truly terrible.
My picks were terrible tonight but I was fortunate to have my big bets in the right places
Straight Bets
Brunson > Alvey @ $192.50 -275 to win $70.00 - WON
Rosholt > Johnson @ $154.00 -220 to win $70.00 - WON
Camozzi > Watson @ $144.00 -160 to win $90.00 - WON
Camozzi > Watson @ $49.00 -140 to win $35.00 - WON
Ovince Saint Preux > Teixeira @ $75.00 +105 to win $78.75 - LOSE
Johnson / Rosholt u 1.5 Rds @ $100.00 +145 to win $145.00 - LOSE
Waston / Camozzi o 2.5 Rds @ $175.00 -220 to win $79.55 - WON
Nunes / McMann o 2.5 Rds @ $75.00 -135 to win $55.56 - LOSE
Kakai / Saenz o 2.5 Rds @ $100.00 -250 to win $40.00 - WON
Kakai > Saenz @ $40.00 +130 to win $52.00 - LOSE
Gates > Ortiz @ $50.00 +345 to win $170.00 - LOSE
Parlays
Brunson (-265) + Rosholt (-210) @ $100.00 +103 to win $103.32 - WON
Brunson (-265) + Rosholt (-210) + Camozzi (-160) @ $50.00 +227 to win $113.56 - WON
Brunson (-265) + Rosholt (-210) + Comozzi/Watson o 2.5 (-220) @ $50.00 +193 to win $96.4 - WON
OSP (+105) + Brunson (-265) + Rosholt (-210) @ $25.00 +313 to win $78.17 - LOSE
Brunson (-265) + Rosholt (-210) + Vera/Salazar o 2.5 (-130) @ $25.00 +256 to win $64.04 - LOSE
OSP (+105) + Johnson (-150) + Brunson (-265) + Rosholt (-210) + Camozzi (-160) + Borg (-460) + Nunes/McMann o 2.5 (-135) + Kakai/Saenz o 2.5 (-250) + Wilson (-170) + Vera/Salazar o 2.5 (-130) @ $10.00 +9,217 to win $2304.32 - LOSE
Not Darish by Decision (-555) + Not Nunes ITD (-492) + Not Saenz ITD (-705) + Not Dempsey ITD (-430) @ $50.00 -101 to win $49.93 - LOSE
Rosholt (-225) + Borg (-490) + Wilson (-170) @ $50.00 +176 to win $88.12 - WON
Camozzi (-140) + Not Dempsey ITD (-570) @ $50.00 +101 to win $50.83 - WON
Props
Rosholt wins In The Distance @ $25.00 +160 to win $45.00 - LOSE
McMann wins 3 Round Decision @ $50.00 +118 to win $59.00 - LOSE
Wilson wins 3 Round Decision @ $25.00 +440 to win $110.00 - LOSE
Holtzman wins 3 Round Decision @ $25.00 +170 to win $42.50 - LOSE
Alvey wins in Rd 3 @ $25.00 +2,000 to win $500.00 - LOSE
Camozzi/Watson wins FOTN @ $25.00 +800 to win $200.00 - LOSE
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soberstone   United States. Aug 09 2015 06:13. Posts 2662
Dariush is a class act, pretty much admitting he lost without outright admitting it. I like the guy.
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PuertoRican   United States. Aug 09 2015 06:14. Posts 13044
Rekrul is a newb
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Floofy   Canada. Aug 09 2015 14:35. Posts 8708
Seriously tho, there is one thing i don't understand.
During the fights, i often talk with ricain, and i would say 95% of the time we agree on how to score rounds. The 5% is when we both are like "hmmm idk".
And i think your average hardcore man would also agree with us 95% of the time on those clear rounds.
Why is it judges do such bad decisions this often??? My GF could judge those fights better than the judges, and they're supposed to be professionnals.
Something needs to be done about this.
I mean, it also happens a lot that the final decision is correct, but one of the 3 judges do something really dumb. this has to stop.
james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;(
Last edit: 09/08/2015 14:36
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soberstone   United States. Aug 09 2015 18:37. Posts 2662
On August 09 2015 13:35 Floofy wrote:
Seriously tho, there is one thing i don't understand.
During the fights, i often talk with ricain, and i would say 95% of the time we agree on how to score rounds. The 5% is when we both are like "hmmm idk".
And i think your average hardcore man would also agree with us 95% of the time on those clear rounds.
Why is it judges do such bad decisions this often??? My GF could judge those fights better than the judges, and they're supposed to be professionnals.
Something needs to be done about this.
I mean, it also happens a lot that the final decision is correct, but one of the 3 judges do something really dumb. this has to stop.
It's government bureaucracy. These are officials that are part of a 'commission' that is not elected, but simply appointed by government officials who have no idea about what MMA even stands for. In most cases, they are people that are in someway related to, friends with, favors for, government officials. There is no competition to figure out who is actually a good judge, no annual review, no accountability to anyone or anything, so therefore never any improvement. Been the same problem in boxing for 70 years.
This is how things tend to work in government, without profit motive or accountability to actually be good at your job.
Pretty sad.
If the organizations were allowed to hire their own 3rd party judges who could compete to get to the big show based on their actual judging resume's, things would get a lot better, even if a bunch of conspiracy theorists would be quick to cry corruption every time a guy like Conor McGregor got a decision.
The real fact is it would be in the UFC's best business interest to get good judges who got things right.
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soberstone   United States. Aug 09 2015 19:11. Posts 2662
And on another note, in case anyone is trying to beat the line and make a very good bet.... some lines are open for the next card (2 weeks). I've made my single biggest individual bet of the year already on Max Holloway at -180.
The line will close wider for sure so I'd get the money in now if you care.
I also like Rick Story at -125 over Eric Silva.
Last edit: 09/08/2015 19:11
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Floofy   Canada. Aug 10 2015 21:36. Posts 8708
On August 09 2015 13:35 Floofy wrote:
Seriously tho, there is one thing i don't understand.
During the fights, i often talk with ricain, and i would say 95% of the time we agree on how to score rounds. The 5% is when we both are like "hmmm idk".
And i think your average hardcore man would also agree with us 95% of the time on those clear rounds.
Why is it judges do such bad decisions this often??? My GF could judge those fights better than the judges, and they're supposed to be professionnals.
Something needs to be done about this.
I mean, it also happens a lot that the final decision is correct, but one of the 3 judges do something really dumb. this has to stop.
It's government bureaucracy. These are officials that are part of a 'commission' that is not elected, but simply appointed by government officials who have no idea about what MMA even stands for. In most cases, they are people that are in someway related to, friends with, favors for, government officials. There is no competition to figure out who is actually a good judge, no annual review, no accountability to anyone or anything, so therefore never any improvement. Been the same problem in boxing for 70 years.
This is how things tend to work in government, without profit motive or accountability to actually be good at your job.
Pretty sad.
If the organizations were allowed to hire their own 3rd party judges who could compete to get to the big show based on their actual judging resume's, things would get a lot better, even if a bunch of conspiracy theorists would be quick to cry corruption every time a guy like Conor McGregor got a decision.
The real fact is it would be in the UFC's best business interest to get good judges who got things right.
I wish UFC had his own judges as you said....
I also sometimes thought the public should vote, but that doesn't work because people will be too biased (they will vote for their country man, or for who they bet for).
But the point is, if my GF who knows nothing about the UFC can judge a fight better than them, something is wrong.
james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;(
Last edit: 10/08/2015 21:36
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Baalim   Mexico. Aug 11 2015 11:17. Posts 34250
UFC having its own judges is dangerous, conflict of interests etc, a separated entity is idea but obv not the government since they are crap at running anything.
and public voting would be absolutely ridiculous come on...
And yeah judging is plain wrong and soberstone explained you why.