UFC 189: McGregor vs. Mendes

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On July 12 2015 21:04 soberstone wrote: Sitting in MGM hung over. Too many bets to list. Came up a few units but missed on basically tippling my bankroll with MacDonald pick being wrong and having like +10000 parlays getting shredded when he went down in the 5th. That fight displayed more heart by both fighters in than I've probably ever seen in 5 rounds. Amazing. And McGregor pulling it off while clearly being at under 100 percent, just insane. What a night. Best main card of all time.

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I usually don't bash people or personally attack based on MMA views but if you even open your mind up to entertaining the possibility that Mendes v McGregor was anything but two guys giving it their best and talk about a fix, you don't know what the fuck you are looking at.

Every single one of the 12 guys from the Means fight on last night was a fucking warrior and a hero last night.

To even entertain stupid conspiracy theories after the blood and heart they gave the fans is just deplorable. And I'm not talking about anyone specifically on this site, just the entire idea of it.

amazing card and horrible for my bets

thought back remembering pride events many times while watching this

^ After Rory lost to Condit.



^ After Rory lost to Lawler in the second fight.

I know they get a % from the ppv but jesus christ 30000usd for Rory is just a travesty. Dana give them a 1000% raise just for giving you the UFC's version of Gatti vs Ward right there. Also Mcgregor looked 30 to 40% in that fight and was clearly fucked by that weight cut and exhaustion from all the promoting he's been doing only to get ditched by Aldo and facing an almost completely different monster of an opponent. Everyone talks about how a 2 week camp for Mendes ain't worth shit but nobody talks about how fucked a deal that was for Conor to have to fight him on 2 weeks after finishing an entire camp for Aldo.

You can clearly see Conor is just doing an act after he wins and Chad comes over to the him. This is why I rarely hate fighters for their loud personality because everyone seems to just look for a way to sell themselves ala WWE. I can just imagine how tough it is to be playing a "role" for months 24/7 and it clearly showed how COnor was exhausted from the weight cut, training camp and carrying the promo duties for the whole card.

Conor was injured in the fight against Mendes. News will probably come out within the next 5 days.

The media asked Conor what his injuries were since they heard a rumor, but Conor decided not to say what was wrong so it wouldn't taint his win. Brendan Schaub said he heard that Conor's knee is fucked.

On July 12 2015 22:26 soberstone wrote: To even entertain stupid conspiracy theories after the blood and heart they gave the fans is just deplorable. And I'm not talking about anyone specifically on this site, just the entire idea of it.

No, actualy being skeptical is a good thing, to claim is a fix is kind of stupid, to entertain the idea isnt.


Jack Slack said a thing that made a lot of sense to me about fixes, and why when they have happened they are so painfully obvious and its because fighters dont train to throw away fights, they are not actors, dont rehearse hours how to fake a loss and that shows in those obvious fixes in history.

This fight didnt look fixed, sure Mendes cardio was weird but he fought on 2 weeks notice and he was repeatedly kicked in the body, plus he gave a full strenght elbow from the top that could have easily ended the fight, thats not how you throw a fight.

On July 12 2015 23:37 PuertoRican wrote: Conor was injured in the fight against Mendes. News will probably come out within the next 5 days. The media asked Conor what his injuries were since they heard a rumor, but Conor decided not to say what was wrong so it wouldn't taint his win. Brendan Schaub said he heard that Conor's knee is fucked.

When one's knee is fucked, he fights like JDS vs Miocic, when he pretty much didn't throw a kick. McGregor looked good on the feet and threw his kicks like usual. I think what definitely played a role in his performance was the ridiculous amount of media work he had to do. So ye I do believe he can fight better if he has a quiet camp. But btw I don't deny that he had injuries, i just don't think that his knee is "fucked". In this sport it's ridiculously hard to get into a fight injury free. Imo.

I still think he has many leaks, and shines in exploitative situations against weaker opponents, but I really didn't expect him to beat either of the two more well-rounded fighters in Aldo and Mendes.

Thing is that fight was supposed to look exactly like Pettis vs RDA, except Mendes didn't go forward. McGregor and Pettis both have styles that don't work well on defense, they simply can't do as much if you keep going forward and closing the distance. For example, he can't spinning sidekick without distance, and still for some reason Mendes refused to go forward.

He was counting more on counter-timed-takedowns, but thats not the right approach at all. That fight was supposed to look exactly like Pettis vs RDA...

Easier said than done when you've got a humongous red-bearded paste-skeleton running at you throwing spinning shit with retarded power and accuracy.

Mendes was better on the ground, Conor was better on the feet. The problem was, Mendes couldn't finish the fight. Conor could.

Two-week bullshit aside, "fight fixed" bullshit aside, all bullshit aside: Conor went in there with a smart game plan and executed it to perfection. He didn't try to submit Chad, he just conserved energy and waited for the opportunity to spring up and rock him in the jaw.

It's easy to say "BUT THERE WAS THREE SECONDS LEFT ON THE CLOCK" – but three seconds is about six punches in fight world. Chad was already shrivelled up, his body already aching too much to block. Herb made the right call not letting Conor tee off on his head for six or seven more shots with those freight train fists of his.

Can Conor still lose to Aldo or Edgar? Absolutely, but let's be real. This defeat was legit.

On July 13 2015 09:15 Sliggy wrote: It's easy to say "BUT THERE WAS THREE SECONDS LEFT ON THE CLOCK" – but three seconds is about six punches in fight world. Chad was already shrivelled up, his body already aching too much to block. Herb made the right call not letting Conor tee off on his head for six or seven more shots with those freight train fists of his.

I wouldn't call the stoppage scandalous or anything but I don't think it happens if the situation is reversed and its Conor covering up. I also don't think it happens in any other championship fight although maybe it should be.

Just skimmed through post fight and i've got to admit i really like how Conor and Chad handled themselves. Chad looks like he is in a happy place, sincerely.

Conor McGregor: $500,000 (no win bonus)
Chad Mendes: $500,000
McGregor def. Mendes via technical knockout

Robbie Lawler: $300,000 ($150,000 to show, $150,000 to win)
Rory MacDonald: $59,000
Lawler def. MacDonald via technical knockout

Jeremy Stephens: $72,000 ($32,000 to show, $40,000 to win)*
Dennis Bermudez: $34,000*
Stephens def. Bermudez via technical knockout

Gunnar Nelson: $58,000 ($29,000 to show, $29,000 to win)
Brandon Thatch: $22,000
Nelson def. Thatch via submission

Thomas Almeida: $24,000 ($12,000 to show, $12,000 to win)
Brad Pickett: $30,000
Almeida def. Pickett via knockout

Matt Brown: $92,000 ($46,000 to show, $46,000 to win)
Tim Means: $23,000
Brown def. Means via submission

Alex Garcia: $30,000 ($15,000 to show, $15,000 to win)
Mike Swick: $48,000
Garcia def. Swick via unanimous decision

John Howard: $42,000 ($21,000 to show, $21,000 to win)
Cathal Pendred: $10,000
Howard def. Pendred via split decision

Cody Garbrandt: $20,000 ($10,000 to show, $10,000 to win)
Henry Briones: $10,000
Garbrandt def. Briones via unanimous decision

Louis Smolka: $30,000 ($15,000 to show, $15,000 to win)
Neil Seery: $15,000
Smolka def. Seery via unanimous decision

Cody Pfister: $20,000 ($10,000 to show, $10,000 to win)
Yosdenis Cedeno: $13,000
Pfister def. Cedeno via unanimous decision

*Stephens fined 20 percent of his purse ($8,000) for missing weight, payable to Bermudez

Rory in pain

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On July 13 2015 02:59 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2015 22:26 soberstone wrote: To even entertain stupid conspiracy theories after the blood and heart they gave the fans is just deplorable. And I'm not talking about anyone specifically on this site, just the entire idea of it. No, actualy being skeptical is a good thing, to claim is a fix is kind of stupid, to entertain the idea isnt. Jack Slack said a thing that made a lot of sense to me about fixes, and why when they have happened they are so painfully obvious and its because fighters dont train to throw away fights, they are not actors, dont rehearse hours how to fake a loss and that shows in those obvious fixes in history. This fight didnt look fixed, sure Mendes cardio was weird but he fought on 2 weeks notice and he was repeatedly kicked in the body, plus he gave a full strenght elbow from the top that could have easily ended the fight, thats not how you throw a fight.

I'm saying after watching the performance to even think that is deplorable. I agree, healthy skepticism is a good thing, my point is if you are skeptical after watching that fight your being a retard.

On July 12 2015 23:15 whamm! wrote: You can clearly see Conor is just doing an act after he wins and Chad comes over to the him. This is why I rarely hate fighters for their loud personality because everyone seems to just look for a way to sell themselves ala WWE. I can just imagine how tough it is to be playing a "role" for months 24/7 and it clearly showed how COnor was exhausted from the weight cut, training camp and carrying the promo duties for the whole card.

i don't think Conor is all act. I think the guy genuinely has a crazy confidence in himself.

Imagine for a second you have all of conor's pressure, and millions of people are watching you fight.... and then look at how Conor fought. He really was super confident in the way he fought. I love Conor fights, can't wait for the next one.

End of fight showed that Connor s actually much tougher than he pretends to be. It's one thing to be a maniac that thinks he s a the shit with a sociopathic tendencies, its another to be super confident and cry at the end cause of all the pressure you've endured like he did

On July 13 2015 22:15 Spitfiree wrote: End of fight showed that Connor s actually much tougher than he pretends to be. It's one thing to be a maniac that thinks he s a the shit with a sociopathic tendencies, its another to be super confident and cry at the end cause of all the pressure you've endured like he did

I think its pretty obvious that his character and most of what he says is an act, a masterfully executed act though, those tears are the first crack in his armor we see.