i feel old.

I am also 27 and I feel like I'm approaching my prime. Could be wrong but because it had a lot of variance in my 20-25 I decided to try to make 25-30 way better not to regret feeling that way

This is the kind of thing that you will remember 10 years from now and think: "Wow I was such a dumbass"

On May 18 2015 02:03 k4ir0s wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2015 18:50 dnagardi wrote: well i guess it only bothers ppl who feel that they are not progressing with their lives. At this age you should have a job u enjoy and a career ahead of you, a girl who u love and wanna marry in the near future, thinking about settling down and start a family, stopping with the reckless partying and drinking surprised to see such a narrow-minded comment on this forum. everyones situation and desires are so very different you're living life like a build order.. not everyone plans to fast expand; some of us like to double rax, others like to proxy rax.. and sometimes we just get 6 pool owned and have no way to catch up.

haha great analogy

It's called quarter life crisis.

On May 17 2015 23:05 ClouD87 wrote: I'm 27 aswell and life has never been better and future looks brighter. Men become so much better with time as long as you commit yourself to progress.

24, Same, couldn't have said it myself better.

That said, I'm terrified by the idea that eventually it will be over.

help im not a teenager i feel old

go to a place where a lot of kids and parents go and look how tired and worn out they are, and how old they look. you will leave feeling amazing

On May 18 2015 18:06 GoTuNk wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2015 23:05 ClouD87 wrote: I'm 27 aswell and life has never been better and future looks brighter. Men become so much better with time as long as you commit yourself to progress. That said, I'm terrified by the idea that eventually it will be over.

Don't be terrified, mate. "Remember" what it was like before you were born? That's exactly what it will "be" like once you are no more. Our human form is the exception to the rule; what we "were" before any of us was born - that is the natural way for things to be, the natural way for us to be. This right here - it's just an extra thing; a phase that matter in the universe goes through cyclically. Play around with this phase.

On May 18 2015 18:06 GoTuNk wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2015 23:05 ClouD87 wrote: I'm 27 aswell and life has never been better and future looks brighter. Men become so much better with time as long as you commit yourself to progress. 24, Same, couldn't have said it myself better. That said, I'm terrified by the idea that eventually it will be over.

If you approach life from a standpoint of enjoyment it will never be over. There's so much to learn and do, you will not satisfy your curiosity in a single lifetime.

Almost always I hear older people talking about life and almost without any exception they mention that they are happiest around 40. Still strong/vital enough to do all kinds of stuff and having life figured out.

On May 19 2015 07:15 marksyncm wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2015 18:06 GoTuNk wrote:   On May 17 2015 23:05 ClouD87 wrote: I'm 27 aswell and life has never been better and future looks brighter. Men become so much better with time as long as you commit yourself to progress. That said, I'm terrified by the idea that eventually it will be over. Don't be terrified, mate. "Remember" what it was like before you were born? That's exactly what it will "be" like once you are no more. Our human form is the exception to the rule; what we "were" before any of us was born - that is the natural way for things to be, the natural way for us to be. This right here - it's just an extra thing; a phase that matter in the universe goes through cyclically. Play around with this phase.

I don't think that's what people mean they're afraid of

It's all very well and good to say death in the sense of being dead is not something to be afraid of since you've already not been alive before you were born.

But death is also the act of actually dying, something killing you, which should be terrifying if you have the instinct of self-preservation

The issue of people being obsessed with it comes from this, I think: In the youth of our species, we would have considered things a lot more simply. So the list of choices for death would be short, something like being killed by another human, being eaten, dying to the elements, dying from your body failing somehow.

The more we understand and have a civilization, life expectancy goes way up and the probability of X killing you is actually quite low. But the difference is we are now aware of so many different ways to die that it's overwhelming. You could be on the sidewalk and a rogue car could smash into you, you could be riding in a plane someone else is piloting and it crashes completely out of your control, some random shit could happen in your body and you get sepsis and die on the operating table, you can go to bed one night and never wake up, you can get a blood clot and die, you can get a stroke and, you could slowly be eaten by cancer or M.S., someone could decide to shoot up your office, you could have a heart attack while mountain biking, someone could push you onto the subway tracks, you could be mauled by a bear... what prehistoric man might have generalized as "a human could kill me" we might break it down into all kinds of shit like a drive-by shooting, domestic abuse murder, killed during a mugging, killed in war, killed in a terrorist attack, killed by accident when a construction worker drops a steel beam on you. We have a real awareness of the possibilities.

The last thing you do in life is die. And at that time, maybe you're bleeding out from a gunshot wound and think you're going to make it. And then you die? So the last thing you thought was a lie. Or maybe the plane is going down and you know you're not going to make it and can't do anything to stop it. So your last thought was to see your death coming and there be nothing you can do about it. How could this NOT be terrifying? It's not healthy to think about it all the time, but when you do think about it and it's chilling, that's a normal reaction.

Hi Santafairy,

Well yes, if that is the way you imagine death then I suppose I can see how this could be terrifying. The thing is, when I think of the process of dying I do not think of being hit by a car, falling in a plane, bleeding out of a shot wound. In fact, I don't think about what it will look like at all; and even when I do, I still can't "force" myself to be terrified (a little sad, maybe, but nothing remotely close to terrified). I think a lot of it might come down to simply a person's temperament: does the person have a somewhat fear-driven personality, for instance? And by that I do not mean that the person is a coward or any similar derogatory term; I simply mean that they are over-protective of themselves, of others, often worrying about the bad things that will happen, and so on. Many people exhibit this type of personality, I think it's perfectly OK and nothing inherently bad about it (can be often useful, too). I guess what I'm trying to say is that depending on the temperament, and also life experiences; younger people who will have most likely suffered less pain in their lives will tend to be more afraid of pain than an older person who has lost many friends, family members, went through multiple hardships and is now somewhat "immune to it.

I doubt that this (temperament) can be changed significantly, but it's probably possible to make its negative side effects less annoying, I would imagine. For me, when I think of the process of dying - and I mean really really focus on it and try to imagine it to elicit a reaction from myself - I just see myself as being surrounded by family and close friends, and am really unable to see this in a negative light even if it's followed by me dying (of course I'd prefer to live, but it's not making me feel terrified). And if I try and force myself into imagining a gruesome, painful death for myself, the reaction that I'm able to elicit from myself is that I will simply want to make the pain/suffering stop, but I'm not viewing that from the perspective of a "phuck, the last thing I do in my life is suffer/die" - I just feel like I want to make it go away, fast. And I'm not interested in what follows as long as the pain stops. No matter how hard I think about it, it's just not having enough power to "penetrate" into my very core. I'm not saying that it's so surreal that I'm unable to imagine it, because I can more or less (to the extent where imagining it is possible). I'm just saying that the actual act of dying itself doesn't stir any very strong emotions in me.

Anyway, this is one of those things where there is no "right" way of looking at it. Thanks for sharing your point of view and I hope that my point of view will be even a little bit informative for you.

Oh and one more thing in regard to this:

On May 19 2015 20:20 Santafairy wrote: The issue of people being obsessed with it comes from this, I think: In the youth of our species, we would have considered things a lot more simply. So the list of choices for death would be short, something like being killed by another human, being eaten, dying to the elements, dying from your body failing somehow..

This part I don't agree with. I would personally rather die by any single one of the means that you described in your post, than by being eaten alive by a pack of lions, or from a tooth infection that spreads to the brain due to lack of aspirin. I don't think the argument that "people in the olden days had less traumatic ways of dying is the reason why people nowadays are more obsessed with death" makes sense; we have it easier, we are far more likely to die suddenly than people did 10 000 years ago. We are far more likely to die while under the effect of morphine in a hospital bed. We are certainly far more likely to die without experiencing any prolonged physical pain. If anything, we (as in modern people) should be, according to your point of view, less afraid of dying.

My opinion on why people nowadays are more obsessed with death is that it comes down to a bunch of things:

1) less closeness between people/less focus on relationships and more focus on materialistic things, particularly in the West. Materialistic things have more of a "fleeting" nature to them that can indeed make it seem/feel like "all of this is for nothing if I die anyway" I'm not saying that close personal relationships are not fleeting; they too are, but I think that these relationships are somewhat closer to our fabric as human beings than the pursuit of a career/the quest for self-improvement is, and so a life focused around interpersonal relationships is more conductive towards being less afraid of death. A life built tightly around interpersonal relationships gives you this strong feeling that there will be a lot happening long after you are dead; makes you feel like you are part of a bigger collective and that the death of any one member of the collective, while sad, is not really "the end of everything" in the same sense that many modern citizens of the West would think of death.

2) More focus on death in the media. For obvious reasons, the media will focus on the tragic, This can make certain people wrongfully assume that a tragic death is just one step away.

3) If you combine points (1) and (2) above, and consider the fact that many (but obviously not all) young people in the west nowadays have a fairly carefree childhood, a childhood in which their character isn't constantly tested and in which they are not forced to build a certain type of resilience, it might become more understandable why more people are afraid of death nowadays than they were in the past.

yeah, also religion made tribes do crazy things that made them not fear death as much probably. Widow strangling for example. In new guinea tribes they practiced strangling the wife of a husband (by a relative) so they could join their husband in the afterlife. You probably feel less afraid of death if you believe in religion, unless of course u believe in hell, in which ur more afraid haha.

On a side note, on of the major threats to humanity in the 21st century is the development of super-bugs that are evolving to grow resistant to modern antibiotics. It's predicted that by the late 21st century paper-cuts will be just as effective as killing people as they were in the middle ages.

by the way guys, didn't we forget something in all this commotion?

Happy Freakin' Birthday, OP!

On May 17 2015 20:40 Raidern wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2015 18:50 dnagardi wrote: well i guess it only bothers ppl who feel that they are not progressing with their lives. At this age you should have a job u enjoy and a career ahead of you, a girl who u love and wanna marry in the near future, thinking about settling down and start a family, stopping with the reckless partying and drinking no, he shouldn't. the only thing he or anyone at any age needs is food and a place to sleep and not depend on anyone else for it. anything else is just the standard way of living set by society. i dunno why do you feel old at such a young age. think about it and ask yourself i'm sure you will come up with a decent answer and maybe you can work it from there,

thanks dude. thought about it. and i will go work from here

[QUOTE]On May 19 2015 17:32 Twisted wrote:
Almost always I hear older people talking about life and almost without any exception they mention that they are happiest around 40. Still strong/vital enough to do all kinds of stuff and having life figured out.[/QUOTE

intersting point

http://www.economist.com/node/17722567

On May 25 2015 17:52 LemOn[5thF] wrote: http://www.economist.com/node/17722567

o fuck that shit t.t

lol kids these days.