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traxamillion   United States. Apr 27 2015 11:24. Posts 10468
gonna post dumb live hands in my blog to blow off steam you don't have to read them

UTG $300
UTG+1 $80
UTG+2 $80
MP $340
ME (button)$300

UTG puts out a blind kill which is a 4 dollar blind that gives him last action preflop

UTG+1 opens 8, UTG+2 calls, MP calls, LP call, I call with 99, UTG raises to 30, everybody calls but LP

Flop 9c5h2d (pot $148)

UTG bets 45, UTG+1 calls all in, UTG+2 calls all in, Mp raises to 90, I call, UTG folds

Turn 9c5h2d3h (pot $363)

Mp leads 40, I shove, Mp calls with 98hh

River 9c5h2d3h7h (pot $743)

My top set no longer good MP scoops the pot with a 9 high flush and the 2 shortstacks muck some trash that had no equity. Not long after MP got in 200bbs pre calling off a huge overbet shove with K9o. He cracked AK with his K9 shipping a huge pot with a pair of 9s. Not long after the game broke when he left and I got moved to another table. At the 2nd orbit at this new table I faced an interesting hand that I also posted here tonight.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/1126836/Live_1-2_river_play.html

Game is 7 or 8 handed live 1-1-2 NL holden

Button $200
BB $240
Me (UTG +1) $280

I open to 7 UTG+1 with K10ss. button calls, Bb calls

Flop 5s8sQd (pot $18 after rake I believe- max drop any flop in California :/ lol)

BB checks, I bet 14, both call

Turn 5s8sQd9c (pot $60)

Everybody checks

River 5s8sQd9c3s (pot $60)

BB leads 30, I?

Neither player seems to be a drooler, my game recently broke and I just got moved here, 2nd orbit. Both young - 30s white men but not online players I don't think.

I've been watching a lot of the Claudico bot lately and I think it would definitely choose all in as its play because of GTO or whatever. Do you think a smaller raise is better to get wider calls out of a human or is there more value in getting bigger bets called less frequently (or at the same rate).

What do you guys do here.

Yes I could 3barrel this and that may be best but I believe the line I took is certainly viable especially vs the players in this hand.

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 Last edit: 27/04/2015 11:26

soberstone   United States. May 02 2015 02:48. Posts 2662

This seems pretty close.

I think shoving is marginally better than the lighter raise. I lean towards shoving and don't expect anyone to fold a lower flush. Straight is pretty much out of both their ranges, I don't think 2-pair or worse calls either way and if they would, that means they'd probably call with a lot of garbage queens as a bluff-catch move, in which case you'd rather be shoving anyway because I don't think your flat out bluffing any less when you shove.

The set of 3's is probably the only hand that varies and I don't think that overrides the +ev you make by shoving over time.

Edit: The second hand that is, first hand's gay

 Last edit: 02/05/2015 02:49

traxamillion   United States. May 02 2015 05:01. Posts 10468

Thanks Jon yea I agree with that, those were literally my thoughts when choosing shove at the table


 



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