Probable starcraft II match fixing by marine king

On March 26 2015 16:57 dogmeat wrote: but why would you do it in such a retarded way?

he doesnt have the choice. anything but making a third 3cc at the moment he saw the spine would have made him win the game.

On March 25 2015 19:21 RaiNKhAN wrote: ^ like i said its mkp. anyone else and its an auto fix lol

Maybe mkp seems to do retarded shit all the time despite being pro because he is throwing games on the regular

Looks to me like he froze up and didnt quite know what to do when he realized the cheese is revealed on the minimap. By doing nothing he did everything as agreed, but he didnt make it look smooth. His aggressive scouting intending to find a build order he know will lose..

meh considering my wc3 background and how strategies work overall ... this is probably fixed
like its not even just the fact that he didnt notice the spine which is ridiculous, he left his reaper afk, even if he does that to protect base he should instantly push one when the 2nd one pops up especially when he noticed that the zerg definitely has an early hatch, and he wouldnt even bother scouting it really?

i mean i've seem some pretty terrible mistakes in RTS's done by progamers, but this is not a terrible mistake this is a complete train wreck

with the fpv on the replay you could probably find some definitive proof (mvp said they are going to issue a statement so i assume this is one of the things they did)

also, just as an aside, flash lost to this same build in the nssl qualifiers yesterday. if he didnt go cc first and managed to lose itd be interesting to see how.

On March 26 2015 18:29 traxamillion wrote: Show nested quote + On March 25 2015 19:21 RaiNKhAN wrote: ^ like i said its mkp. anyone else and its an auto fix lol Maybe mkp seems to do retarded shit all the time despite being pro because he is throwing games on the regular

The only problem with this is that he wins a lot of the games where he does retarded shit... or he used to anyway ;d

Like "oh you're roach baneling busting me, well, i'll just make 0 bunkers and hold anyway because fuck you, marines op".

He didnt use his reapers. He did nothing with his reapers.

A pro made reapers and then did literally nothing with them.

Fuck the spine that was within vision, a pro made 2 reapers and didn't even send them out of his base, LOL. You can make an excuse that you didn't see the spine. Far fetched, but possible.

There is zero explanation for why he didn't use his reapers. No pro would ever do that, it has to be intentional.

The more I look at this the more I feel like there's no way it wasn't fixed.. I havn't really followed the sc2 scene in 3 years, but wasn't mkp really good in like 2011? What happened?

It definitely has to be fixed. I just dont understand how he could do it so badly like this.

the incompetence in faking is what amazes me the most... come on you play 10hrs a day practice throwing games dumbass

"I have to agree. I really don't see how you decide to drop a 3rd CC after your see the creep spreading in your main base; especially when you don't 'see' the massive red dot on the minimap/fog that is the Spine Crawler building for 2+ minutes; especially when your SCV scout reveals that your opponent is on 1 hatch with gas 3:30 into the game with pool only being half done.

I could go on but I don't really need to; watch the game and you'll understand."

from TL, i wonder what will happen next to MK

On March 27 2015 07:18 Baalim wrote: the incompetence in faking is what amazes me the most... come on you play 10hrs a day practice throwing games dumbass

if it was fixed, the fixing was most likely oneway i.e. marineking was paid to fix and planned to play normal and just botch some normal shit. when he scouted the cheese he just had no idea how to adjust his throw

just delay making units a bit ffs. these new generation of cheaters are disappointing

On March 27 2015 14:45 PoorUser wrote: Show nested quote + On March 27 2015 07:18 Baalim wrote: the incompetence in faking is what amazes me the most... come on you play 10hrs a day practice throwing games dumbass if it was fixed, the fixing was most likely oneway i.e. marineking was paid to fix and planned to play normal and just botch some normal shit. when he scouted the cheese he just had no idea how to adjust his throw

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I think this is exactly what happened. he was gonna throw the match at some point, then his opponent tried to hand him the win by cheesing and being scouted, and then being a retard was the only way he could lose, so he went for it.

ouch thats so ugly, there is absolutely no way he didnt see the red dot on his minimap

This game was like last week's New York Knicks vs Minnesota Timberwolves

On March 27 2015 14:45 PoorUser wrote: Show nested quote + On March 27 2015 07:18 Baalim wrote: the incompetence in faking is what amazes me the most... come on you play 10hrs a day practice throwing games dumbass if it was fixed, the fixing was most likely oneway i.e. marineking was paid to fix and planned to play normal and just botch some normal shit. when he scouted the cheese he just had no idea how to adjust his throw

Thats what I mean, you should train in throwing a little bit, getting used to delaying things just a bit so you loose, not micromanaging properly reacting slow, making mistakes but not being this silly

I mean sc2 is such a volatile game that it's always plausible that you "just fucked up" during one engagement, and losing an engagement loses you the game..

On March 30 2015 11:16 Liquid`Drone wrote: I mean sc2 is such a volatile game that it's always plausible that you "just fucked up" during one engagement, and losing an engagement loses you the game..

this.. a missclick without attacking that gets your units wiped would have looked like just a regular blunder

On March 31 2015 00:40 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On March 30 2015 11:16 Liquid`Drone wrote: I mean sc2 is such a volatile game that it's always plausible that you "just fucked up" during one engagement, and losing an engagement loses you the game.. this.. a missclick without attacking that gets your units wiped would have looked like just a regular blunder

ya. if this is a fix, it seems likely that this probably wasnt the first time. mkp was 3-8 in spl and probably botched games more in this way