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Smuft   Canada. Mar 21 2015 20:18. Posts 633

been hearing a lot about this recently and wanting to know how it works so TY for a look into the DFS world and VN results

how big do the stakes get up to?

how much rake is there?

thoughts on mid/longterm outlook of DFS industry?




PuertoRican   United States. Mar 21 2015 20:24. Posts 13042

I play on DraftKings for the MMA and NHL events. I've been busy lately, so I haven't had much time to devote to hockey, thus no NHL DraftKings events. I play the MMA events on DraftKings every week. No big scores yet.

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traxamillion   United States. Mar 21 2015 21:14. Posts 10468

Interesting

Seems like too much value not to get into especially since I'm already betting sports.

Is there much edge at the top, how would you quantify it?

What do you think of MLB? I'd start there just cause it's the next season but baseball seems like it would have the least possible edge with huge variance.


Daut    United States. Mar 21 2015 21:31. Posts 8955

-stakes get pretty large. there are 10k HUs on draftkings, but they rarely run. The former top guy, condia, got mauled by an ok but not great high stakes player at them, and besides that im not sure theyve ever run otherwise. between the three sites i try to get about 4k of action in a day at this point. it sounds like a lot on a 28k roll, but its split between a few lineups on each site and try to get a decent amount of HU so its not too much variance. my buddy who i work with on lineups every day sometimes can get 40k in action a day.

-the rake is big and a real problem. on fanduel/draftkings at lowstakes, its essentially 9+1, 22.5+2.5, etc. 11.11% is large and tough to overcome. it gets better at high stakes, but not enough to overcome edges between regs, so the lobby is sort of bumhunter ish like in poker. hopefully the sites lower rake, particularly at high stakes, cause even 250+20 is tough to beat a good player who you should have an edge on.

-longterm outlook of DFS is strong. the industry is still growing at a somewhat exponential rate, but that wont last forever. i think next football season will be a few times larger than this past one. the real problem is that the edges between strong players should be very small and there is little incentive to play each other in HUs.

-MLB seems fun. i have never played a baseball contest but im sure ill dabble in it this season. i was a diehard baseball fan growing up, but have watched close to 0 since about 2003 so there will definitely be a learning curve for me. i think the edges are reasonable in it, but yes huge variance due to star players going 0/4 with 3 Ks sometimes.

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RaiNKhAN    United States. Mar 21 2015 21:57. Posts 4080

^

If they fix the rake or give out some strong VIP bonuses like stars had then I think DFS would be very beatable for a large amount of people. but as it stands that rake is just plain robbery, way worse than in all formats of poker

I talked to a friend and they are considering reducing the rake or something along those lines so if and when that happens I'll definitely get back into DFS

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TimDawg    United States. Mar 21 2015 21:58. Posts 10197

I deposited 1k on FD basically doing the complete opposite of you - no research, checking injuries, BRM, ect (just pure gambol). I just busted my roll playing vs you in a $1 HU match lol. I did mostly NFL and would play the huge field/high payouts pretty much exclusively.

You have inspired me to give it another go though. I find it pretty amazing you knew essentially nothing about the NBA before diving into this and have had such good results. What are the main sites you look at for research/injury news/ect?

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Roman    United States. Mar 22 2015 08:29. Posts 590

I have a friend who wrote a script for automatically entering line ups, makes life much easier. you can shoot me a msg on skype if you want it.


[GiTM]-Ace   United States. Mar 24 2015 02:32. Posts 1585

wow thats sick. Friend of mine has been trying to get me to sign up forever. Guess I'm gonna give it a try now :D

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PanoRaMa   United States. Mar 24 2015 05:53. Posts 1655

Thanks for the shoutout Grats on the results

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[GiTM]-Ace   United States. Mar 24 2015 09:06. Posts 1585

im also curious where u get ur news updates and shit. guessing espn?

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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Mar 24 2015 14:56. Posts 8648

thanks for the write-up

is there a PTR equivalent for DFS? if not, any idea what the biggest winners make per year?

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PanoRaMa   United States. Mar 24 2015 18:32. Posts 1655


  On March 24 2015 13:56 bigredhoss wrote:
thanks for the write-up

is there a PTR equivalent for DFS? if not, any idea what the biggest winners make per year?



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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Mar 25 2015 13:55. Posts 8648

nice, i guess that's the site daut was referring to in op. even if it's not finished, any chance you could pm me the link or post it here?

Truck-Crash LifeLast edit: 25/03/2015 14:02

Rush   United States. Mar 26 2015 01:03. Posts 2299

I'd like the link or a PM with that information too if possible! Thanks.

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[GiTM]-Ace   United States. Mar 26 2015 01:18. Posts 1585

Same!

Edit - Also question. When you play majority 50/50's do you field the same lineup in each? Same for HU i guess. I'm assuming in tourneys you would do multi entry and try a couple diff lineups

[GiTM]- GoSu in the MakingLast edit: 26/03/2015 03:51

SpasticInk   Sweden. Apr 01 2015 19:51. Posts 6298

Which is the best site for european football


HungarianGOD   . Apr 04 2015 06:38. Posts 459


  On March 22 2015 07:29 Roman wrote:
I have a friend who wrote a script for automatically entering line ups, makes life much easier. you can shoot me a msg on skype if you want it.



Are you willing to give that line-up entering script to others, or is Daut an exception? I'd be interested in it


leos147   Iceland. Apr 13 2015 16:25. Posts 171

Are there any sites like this outside of US/Canada? I googled this but it seems I am unable to register on fanduel and draftkings because of my location.


gazavat   Great Britain. May 27 2015 16:34. Posts 59

Nice blog topic, curious about other pros typical results as well.

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Doberman   Austria. Aug 26 2015 17:49. Posts 1

I only enter a few daily lineups a week for fun, i didn't expect that your winrate in a 50/50 contest can be that high, compared to the DON's in Poker. How much work do you put into that, 26k that's almost enough to do that fulltime, isnt it?


 
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