[nsfw]Gun attack on French magazine kills 12

Anybody who blames Islam for what those guys did in France, or what any radical does in the "name" of Islam is an idiot.

The worst thing you can do as a Muslim is kill someone. Not God, not prophet Muhammad, not the Quran, nobody told these guys to shoot anyone, Allah doesn't need you to protect him.

Any real Muslim felt saddened by the events just like any normal person, and I, and my family felt extremely angered that they would use our beautiful religion to condone their acts of brutal savagery.

Another sad note will be the pain, and possible death innocent people will face in the future due to the actions of these people.

I am grateful everyday, I have lived a long and so far prosperous life, and I have seen some shit, and I have been abused over the internet, and in person; believe me when I tell you, hating someone is very easy, it is those that succumb to this hate that go and hurt innocents. I believe attributing these guys to Islam is like attributing the actions of the psychotic Anders Breivik to Europe, or Norway or Christianity. It is illogical, and some of you, I'm sorry to say, may come from countries, cultures, or backgrounds who support ignorant views similar to those of the shooters, and it is this type of ignorance which continues to the spin the wheel of ignorance, hate, and pain which when it spins out of control hurls its power and ugliness into innocent people with sad and devastating results.

Rip to those who died, and my condolences to their families.

On January 10 2015 14:13 Stat.Quo wrote: Anybody who blames Islam for what those guys did in France, or what any radical does in the "name" of Islam is an idiot. The worst thing you can do as a Muslim is kill someone. Not God, not prophet Muhammad, not the Quran, nobody told these guys to shoot anyone, Allah doesn't need you to protect him. Any real Muslim felt saddened by the events just like any normal person, and I, and my family felt extremely angered that they would use our beautiful religion to condone their acts of brutal savagery. Another sad note will be the pain, and possible death innocent people will face in the future due to the actions of these people. I am grateful everyday, I have lived a long and so far prosperous life, and I have seen some shit, and I have been abused over the internet, and in person; believe me when I tell you, hating someone is very easy, it is those that succumb to this hate that go and hurt innocents. I believe attributing these guys to Islam is like attributing the actions of the psychotic Anders Breivik to Europe, or Norway or Christianity. It is illogical, and some of you, I'm sorry to say, may come from countries, cultures, or backgrounds who support ignorant views similar to those of the shooters, and it is this type of ignorance which continues to the spin the wheel of ignorance, hate, and pain which when it spins out of control hurls its power and ugliness into innocent people with sad and devastating results. Rip to those who died, and my condolences to their families.

so was muhammad a good person?

Great post, a drop of wit in an ocean of idiocy.

The French government are such a bunch of fucking pussies. You let extremist Muslims come in and set-up 124 'No-Go' zones where you won't send in your police, anti-terror intelligence, or anything, for fear of confrontation, and let them implement their own Sharia Law governments and societies, and then want to act surprised when these vile pieces of trash come in and, funded directly by Al-Queda, kill a bunch of people over a cartoon. What a joke. And what makes me sad is the US Gov. is doubling down on it's new wave of pussy policy via Obama and liberal nut-jobs in denial of the reality of the world. Fuck Islamic extremists. Kill them all.

On January 10 2015 08:28 Romm3l wrote:

I'm not saying they are perfect at all, i'm merely saying their state of consciousness as a whole as a nation is just years ahead. They're tearing out hatred/fear out of people, they think in ways of deeds being optimal in long term progress and good for the nation. Not saying they re purposely using propaganda in animes, but its become a part of the culture, to eradicate hatred/fear in ways where you acknowledge it and use it for good, not just ignore it just as the majority of us. There s much work to be done in terms of women rights there, but there are is much to learn about the same in the West as well, the West is quite hypocritical considering that topic.Apart from that i'm not quite educated enough on the theme about their overall economical state and such

@dogmeat
The very fact that you label islam as violent is enough for me to completely ignore the rest of your post. I'm not even that well-read on the topic, but such ignorance beats even me. Anyways i still read it, you base your argument on people fighting over different points of view, which is partly true however very debatable and completely out of topic. As I've already said "terrorists" don't just blindly think "oh these guys don't like Allah i should go kill them", they were living under constant pressure and fear of death from bombing,starvation,plain brutality,etc. by the western countries, they are practically living in their homelands under the governance of someone completely unknown to them, who is militarily superior and wants the resources of their lands, they are seeing the same things happen to their closest friends and family. Excuse me if I think that I myself would go and blow random brains out if i went through something like that. Of course that same group of people end up terrorizing the very people they originally claimed to defend which is fucking ridiculous, but that's bound to happen when someone intellectually dominant sees and opportunity and exploits the mass. That's the first kind of "Terrorist" organizations. The second are organizations funded by those very military superior nations used for geopolitical war, don't believe me ? Start researching the topic, or if you are too lazy watch a 5.5hrs movie series http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1321865/?ref_=nv_sr_1 director is speculating with many of the conversation of the movie, but the global idea is real and he did a tremendous research on Carlos and how his "nobel" cause is actually led by different world powers to serve their own interests

On January 10 2015 15:53 soberstone wrote: Fuck Islamic extremists. Kill them all.

You seem like the kind of person who if your government says they want to go to war with another Mid-east country, due to "terrorists", would blindly say "fuck yeah its about time". Well played american media, well played

I say "Fuck Islamic Extremists, kill them all" and you disagree. Seems like a pretty obvious sentiment to have at this point. I didn't say fuck Muslims. I said fuck Islamic Extremists. Does anyone disagree besides old Spitfiree here?

You live in Bulgaria, what do you know about the American Media Spitfiree? The American Media is very liberal, Anti-Israel, and Islamist-apologetic for the most part, spare Fox News.

I especially love this quote from you: "As I've already said "terrorists" don't just blindly think "oh these guys don't like Allah i should go kill them", they were living under constant pressure and fear of death from bombing,starvation,plain brutality,etc. by the western countries, they are practically living in their homelands under the governance of someone completely unknown to them, who is militarily superior and wants the resources of their lands, they are seeing the same things happen to their closest friends and family."

That is such a fucking joke. You clearly know nothing. Look up what the manifesto of Isis, Al-Queda, and other terrorist organizations is and then get back to me you fucking moron. Their manifesto is literally to kill or convert all non-believers and install an Islamic worldwide Caliphate. How is this arguable? Just LISTEN TO THEM!

And to the part about bombing, starvation, plain brutality, etc by Western Countries.... this is so laughable. It's not Western Countries that impose this shit on people, it's Islamist regimes that gas their own people, kill their own people, bomb their own people. You are so brainwashed. Eww.

On January 10 2015 14:13 Stat.Quo wrote: Anybody who blames Islam for what those guys did in France, or what any radical does in the "name" of Islam is an idiot. The worst thing you can do as a Muslim is kill someone. Not God, not prophet Muhammad, not the Quran, nobody told these guys to shoot anyone, Allah doesn't need you to protect him. Any real Muslim felt saddened by the events just like any normal person, and I, and my family felt extremely angered that they would use our beautiful religion to condone their acts of brutal savagery. Another sad note will be the pain, and possible death innocent people will face in the future due to the actions of these people. I am grateful everyday, I have lived a long and so far prosperous life, and I have seen some shit, and I have been abused over the internet, and in person; believe me when I tell you, hating someone is very easy, it is those that succumb to this hate that go and hurt innocents. I believe attributing these guys to Islam is like attributing the actions of the psychotic Anders Breivik to Europe, or Norway or Christianity. It is illogical, and some of you, I'm sorry to say, may come from countries, cultures, or backgrounds who support ignorant views similar to those of the shooters, and it is this type of ignorance which continues to the spin the wheel of ignorance, hate, and pain which when it spins out of control hurls its power and ugliness into innocent people with sad and devastating results. Rip to those who died, and my condolences to their families.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Islam is a violent religion and muslims are completely fine with murder.
Muslims consider the honor of the Prophet Muhammad to be dearer to them than that of their parents or even themselves, and they have the obligation to defend it. The punishment if found guilty of this crime under sharia law is capital punishment. This is because Muhammad said to kill whoever insults a prophet.

On January 10 2015 16:53 Spitfiree wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2015 08:28 Romm3l wrote: I'm not saying they are perfect at all, i'm merely saying their state of consciousness as a whole as a nation is just years ahead. They're tearing out hatred/fear out of people, they think in ways of deeds being optimal in long term progress and good for the nation. Not saying they re purposely using propaganda in animes, but its become a part of the culture, to eradicate hatred/fear in ways where you acknowledge it and use it for good, not just ignore it just as the majority of us. There s much work to be done in terms of women rights there, but there are is much to learn about the same in the West as well, the West is quite hypocritical considering that topic.Apart from that i'm not quite educated enough on the theme about their overall economical state and such @dogmeat The very fact that you label islam as violent is enough for me to completely ignore the rest of your post. I'm not even that well-read on the topic, but such ignorance beats even me. Anyways i still read it, you base your argument on people fighting over different points of view, which is partly true however very debatable and completely out of topic. As I've already said "terrorists" don't just blindly think "oh these guys don't like Allah i should go kill them", they were living under constant pressure and fear of death from bombing,starvation,plain brutality,etc. by the western countries, they are practically living in their homelands under the governance of someone completely unknown to them, who is militarily superior and wants the resources of their lands, they are seeing the same things happen to their closest friends and family. Excuse me if I think that I myself would go and blow random brains out if i went through something like that. Of course that same group of people end up terrorizing the very people they originally claimed to defend which is fucking ridiculous, but that's bound to happen when someone intellectually dominant sees and opportunity and exploits the mass. That's the first kind of "Terrorist" organizations. The second are organizations funded by those very military superior nations used for geopolitical war, don't believe me ? Start researching the topic, or if you are too lazy watch a 5.5hrs movie series http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1321865/?ref_=nv_sr_1 director is speculating with many of the conversation of the movie, but the global idea is real and he did a tremendous research on Carlos and how his "nobel" cause is actually led by different world powers to serve their own interests   On January 10 2015 15:53 soberstone wrote: Fuck Islamic extremists. Kill them all. You seem like the kind of person who if your government says they want to go to war with another Mid-east country, due to "terrorists", would blindly say "fuck yeah its about time". Well played american media, well played

wat? terrorist from charlie were born in france, so wtf are you even sayin?

have you read quran and hadith? im sure you didnt so again, why are you even bothering me with you uneducated opinions?

It is exactly this kind of retard ( soberstone, Cloud87 ) that scares me about what is going to happen next in France.
I mean when i am reading his uneducated and full of hate reactions to those events that are not even happening in his country, im quite worried about what is going to happen, and is happening in France now.

On January 09 2015 14:35 YoMeR wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 06:19 whamm! wrote: but the crusades was much, much worse. and the old testament if fucked up as well. people throughout history have used ideology as a means to justifiy mass murder...Religion...racism...nationalism etc etc. They are all equally dangerous and stupid if put in the wrong hands. But a lot of those ideas at it's core (Communism, Islam, Christianity etc) are all great on paper.

i have to agree very quickly with dogmeat, Abrahamic religions are terrible on paper

ideas are not equally dangerous. secular liberalism is just as dangerous as Islam? just as dangerous as fascism?

On January 10 2015 21:43 FullBRing wrote: It is exactly this kind of retard ( soberstone, Cloud87 ) that scares me about what is going to happen next in France. I mean when i am reading his uneducated and full of hate reactions to those events that are not even happening in his country, im quite worried about what is going to happen, and is happening in France now.

Well I could say the same about you. If you believe Islam is not brutal and dangerous you are uneducated and full of shit. Cultures are not equal. Religions are not equal. People are not equal. All we are supposed to have equal is rights and that's about it. You talk about education, but denying that some cultures are downright stupid for our age and dangerous is a symptom of deep ignorance.

On January 10 2015 21:43 FullBRing wrote: uneducated

hi bro, have you read quran and hadith? i believe you havent... and you should, good stuff

On January 10 2015 18:25 ClouD87 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2015 14:13 Stat.Quo wrote: Anybody who blames Islam for what those guys did in France, or what any radical does in the "name" of Islam is an idiot. The worst thing you can do as a Muslim is kill someone. Not God, not prophet Muhammad, not the Quran, nobody told these guys to shoot anyone, Allah doesn't need you to protect him. Any real Muslim felt saddened by the events just like any normal person, and I, and my family felt extremely angered that they would use our beautiful religion to condone their acts of brutal savagery. Another sad note will be the pain, and possible death innocent people will face in the future due to the actions of these people. I am grateful everyday, I have lived a long and so far prosperous life, and I have seen some shit, and I have been abused over the internet, and in person; believe me when I tell you, hating someone is very easy, it is those that succumb to this hate that go and hurt innocents. I believe attributing these guys to Islam is like attributing the actions of the psychotic Anders Breivik to Europe, or Norway or Christianity. It is illogical, and some of you, I'm sorry to say, may come from countries, cultures, or backgrounds who support ignorant views similar to those of the shooters, and it is this type of ignorance which continues to the spin the wheel of ignorance, hate, and pain which when it spins out of control hurls its power and ugliness into innocent people with sad and devastating results. Rip to those who died, and my condolences to their families. You have no idea what you are talking about. Islam is a violent religion and muslims are completely fine with murder. Muslims consider the honor of the Prophet Muhammad to be dearer to them than that of their parents or even themselves, and they have the obligation to defend it. The punishment if found guilty of this crime under sharia law is capital punishment. This is because Muhammad said to kill whoever insults a prophet.

Im quoting this, to save myself time "Peace and violence in the Qur'an and the life of the Prophet

All killing, fighting, war and even administration of law and order involve some type of violence. However, the "Wild Wild West" did not earn the United States a reputation for violence; the two World Wars - the most violent and the worst killings in human history - did not earn the West in general and Europe in particular a reputation for violence either. The virtual decimation of the Indian people in the United States did not make the country barbaric or uncivilized. The European colonization that ravaged, exploited and dehumanized various parts of Asia and Africa, including the Muslim world, did not make Europe any less civilized. The Spanish Inquisition and the Crusade did not make Christianity violent and barbaric. Even the organized torching of Muslims in India by a Hindu mob does not make Hinduism a burning example of violence and barbarism. Yet, these days there are people who would like to identify Islam and the Prophet Muhammad as violent or symbol of violence."

- See more at: http://www.islamicity.com/articles/Ar...?ref=IC0704-3268#sthash.IRlk11If.dpuf

nice way to answer without actually adressing anything whats wrong with islam...

all these things happened and nobody is proud about them (most of your quote is exaggerated for bigger persuasive effect but i wont bother arguing with you, which is probably your goal )... on the other hand theres 1.5bil ppl worshipping murderer, thief and pedophile as their prophet.

On January 11 2015 00:32 Stat.Quo wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2015 18:25 ClouD87 wrote:   On January 10 2015 14:13 Stat.Quo wrote: Anybody who blames Islam for what those guys did in France, or what any radical does in the "name" of Islam is an idiot. The worst thing you can do as a Muslim is kill someone. Not God, not prophet Muhammad, not the Quran, nobody told these guys to shoot anyone, Allah doesn't need you to protect him. Any real Muslim felt saddened by the events just like any normal person, and I, and my family felt extremely angered that they would use our beautiful religion to condone their acts of brutal savagery. Another sad note will be the pain, and possible death innocent people will face in the future due to the actions of these people. I am grateful everyday, I have lived a long and so far prosperous life, and I have seen some shit, and I have been abused over the internet, and in person; believe me when I tell you, hating someone is very easy, it is those that succumb to this hate that go and hurt innocents. I believe attributing these guys to Islam is like attributing the actions of the psychotic Anders Breivik to Europe, or Norway or Christianity. It is illogical, and some of you, I'm sorry to say, may come from countries, cultures, or backgrounds who support ignorant views similar to those of the shooters, and it is this type of ignorance which continues to the spin the wheel of ignorance, hate, and pain which when it spins out of control hurls its power and ugliness into innocent people with sad and devastating results. Rip to those who died, and my condolences to their families. You have no idea what you are talking about. Islam is a violent religion and muslims are completely fine with murder. Muslims consider the honor of the Prophet Muhammad to be dearer to them than that of their parents or even themselves, and they have the obligation to defend it. The punishment if found guilty of this crime under sharia law is capital punishment. This is because Muhammad said to kill whoever insults a prophet. Im quoting this, to save myself time "Peace and violence in the Qur'an and the life of the Prophet All killing, fighting, war and even administration of law and order involve some type of violence. However, the "Wild Wild West" did not earn the United States a reputation for violence; the two World Wars - the most violent and the worst killings in human history - did not earn the West in general and Europe in particular a reputation for violence either. The virtual decimation of the Indian people in the United States did not make the country barbaric or uncivilized. The European colonization that ravaged, exploited and dehumanized various parts of Asia and Africa, including the Muslim world, did not make Europe any less civilized. The Spanish Inquisition and the Crusade did not make Christianity violent and barbaric. Even the organized torching of Muslims in India by a Hindu mob does not make Hinduism a burning example of violence and barbarism. Yet, these days there are people who would like to identify Islam and the Prophet Muhammad as violent or symbol of violence." - See more at: http://www.islamicity.com/articles/Ar...?ref=IC0704-3268#sthash.IRlk11If.dpuf

So how does this relate to what I said? People do not decide for war, their leaders do. It's not written in my constitution that I have to conquer the world and make everybody else think as I do and obey my unreasonable laws. But guess what's written in the quran.

well if it says that on islamicity.com it must be true

that quote puts me in the mind of the army guy from 28 days later

This is what I've seen in the four weeks since infection. People killing people. Which is much what I saw in the four weeks before infection, and the four weeks before that, and before that, and as far back as I care to remember. People killing people. Which to my mind, puts us in a state of normality right now.

he didn't know what he was talking about either

Arson attack at German paper that ran Charlie Hebdo cartoons

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-ar...e-hebdo-cartoons-2015-1#ixzz3OUp6afV4

dogmeat I love how you try to solidify your arguments saying stuff you obviously haven't done yourself and stating facts that don't even matter. I'm done with this

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good call, you only polluted the thread with your unfounded opinions on terrorism

On January 11 2015 00:38 dogmeat wrote: nice way to answer without actually adressing anything whats wrong with islam...

there's a lot wrong with religion in general. Catholics used to do stupid shit 300+ years ago, today they are relatively tame. Islam is a younger religion, who seems to be going through the stupid shit phase, and currently on the world hotseat as a result. Although from what I've read (not much) it seems more oppressive then others, esp towards women, however thinking about it, catholics have oppressed women for a long time as well, esp pre 1900