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ReDDcaFFe   Bulgaria. Mar 13 2014 18:41. Posts 1172


  On March 13 2014 09:07 Daut wrote:
feel like this thread has a much higher % of bulgarians than the rest of the site. BULGARIA WHY U LOVE TRUE DETECTIVE SO MUCH


Because it's awesome? :D

I cant wait to take their money 

TalentedTom    Canada. Mar 14 2014 22:39. Posts 20070

great show so far, starts off a little slow, but gets v good v fast. Just saw the episode where they go to the ghetto, there was a 2-3 min continuous shoot scene with non stop action, v impressive

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

Loco   Canada. Mar 18 2014 09:52. Posts 20963


  On March 12 2014 18:28 lebowski wrote:
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more like because he went completely out of character.
meh where is Loco, I want to see what he thinks about the ending


I felt the same as you about the hospital scene, and what made it really unconvincing for me is precisely what Daut just wrote about with the light vs dark. While a pessimist isn't immune to transcendental experiences (Cioran himself had a few episodes of 'mystical ecstasy'), they don't end up lying to themselves after them. Of course, maybe he was just entertaining Marty by deceptively saying that "the light is winning", but Cohle shouldn't be saying something like that even if it's not heartfelt (or precisely because it isn't heartfelt, he was always brutally honest).

I also don't feel like Rust wasn't showing any emotions previous to this. He was acting very stoically, but since he needed to be intoxicated all the time, it's quite obvious he was having a tough time with his emotions. Also lebowski, this wasn't the first time he was out of character. Spouting that Eternal Reccurence nonsense as if it were a fact is completely outside of character. Nietzsche's idea was something to be entertained, not accepted as truth. I knew this would happen before even starting the show since I read interviews with Pizzolatto. Knowing that he wasn't an antinatalist himself, and the fact that he said that people should be wary of pidgeonholing Rust before seeing his full development, I had a feeling they'd do some kind of Schopenhauer-Nietzsche clash with the life-affirmation winning out in the end.


I might write more about it all later, I'm very short on time right now. Btw, there was a scene on his antinatalism that was unfortunately deleted: (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/13/watch-true-detective-s-rust-cohle-break-up-with-his-gf-in-this-deleted-scene.html)

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 18/03/2014 09:54

TheHuHu3   United States. Mar 23 2014 11:16. Posts 5544

Finished the season. I don't think it's as great as everyone makes it seem. 9.5 on IMDB? Ehhh, don't think so. As bad ass as episode 4 was, it was almost all filler, which is pretty shitty in an 8-episode season. And I started to lose interest when the questioning / narrating stopped at end of episode 6. I don't even remember what happened in episode 7 at all. The finale was okay. I thought the serial killer villain reveal was lame. The way Rust described this guy in the first couple of episodes was intriguing but it just ended up being an incestuous crazy hill billy.

The acting was top notch, specifically from Woody Harrelson.

TheHuHu4 coming soon :) 

TheHuHu3   United States. Mar 23 2014 11:19. Posts 5544

I wish the finale ended with both Rust and Marty dying (after the killer was shot in the head) as they would both have closure on this 17-year-long case but they paid a price for chasing so deep and for so long. Their bodies wouldn't be found but the serial killer would have finally been brought down. They would be unsung heroes.

TheHuHu4 coming soon :) 

lebowski   Greece. Mar 23 2014 19:43. Posts 9205


  On March 18 2014 08:52 Loco wrote:
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I felt the same as you about the hospital scene, and what made it really unconvincing for me is precisely what Daut just wrote about with the light vs dark. While a pessimist isn't immune to transcendental experiences (Cioran himself had a few episodes of 'mystical ecstasy'), they don't end up lying to themselves after them. Of course, maybe he was just entertaining Marty by deceptively saying that "the light is winning", but Cohle shouldn't be saying something like that even if it's not heartfelt (or precisely because it isn't heartfelt, he was always brutally honest).

I also don't feel like Rust wasn't showing any emotions previous to this. He was acting very stoically, but since he needed to be intoxicated all the time, it's quite obvious he was having a tough time with his emotions. Also lebowski, this wasn't the first time he was out of character. Spouting that Eternal Reccurence nonsense as if it were a fact is completely outside of character. Nietzsche's idea was something to be entertained, not accepted as truth. I knew this would happen before even starting the show since I read interviews with Pizzolatto. Knowing that he wasn't an antinatalist himself, and the fact that he said that people should be wary of pidgeonholing Rust before seeing his full development, I had a feeling they'd do some kind of Schopenhauer-Nietzsche clash with the life-affirmation winning out in the end.


I might write more about it all later, I'm very short on time right now. Btw, there was a scene on his antinatalism that was unfortunately deleted: (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/13/watch-true-detective-s-rust-cohle-break-up-with-his-gf-in-this-deleted-scene.html)


I knew it
btw, in that link with the deleted scene the author says that the scene "demystifies Rust, and surely would have added fuel to the claims that True Detective is misogynistic"
wtf?
crazy feminists seeing conspiracies everywhere?

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

Jamie217   Canada. Mar 25 2014 17:33. Posts 4351


  On March 23 2014 10:16 TheHuHu3 wrote:
Finished the season. I don't think it's as great as everyone makes it seem. 9.5 on IMDB? Ehhh, don't think so. As bad ass as episode 4 was, it was almost all filler, which is pretty shitty in an 8-episode season. And I started to lose interest when the questioning / narrating stopped at end of episode 6. I don't even remember what happened in episode 7 at all. The finale was okay. I thought the serial killer villain reveal was lame. The way Rust described this guy in the first couple of episodes was intriguing but it just ended up being an incestuous crazy hill billy.

The acting was top notch, specifically from Woody Harrelson.



Completely agree, I mean looking back to the first few episodes the killer is made to appear to be very sophisticated and highly intelligent and possibly connected to the case. I definitely do not understand the reasoning for having the killer being some random half retard


impact69   Mexico. Oct 28 2014 19:13. Posts 307

Colin Farrel and Vince Vaughn? lol gg


devon06atX   Canada. Oct 28 2014 20:29. Posts 5458

Who would have thought Mcconaghey (sp) and Harrelson would have killed it like that? I sure didn't. I never thought Matt or Woody had it in them before they destroyed it with this show.

I'm excited to see Vaughn put in a serious role.


Baalim   Mexico. Oct 28 2014 21:07. Posts 34246


  On March 25 2014 16:33 Jamie217 wrote:
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Completely agree, I mean looking back to the first few episodes the killer is made to appear to be very sophisticated and highly intelligent and possibly connected to the case. I definitely do not understand the reasoning for having the killer being some random half retard


It seemed to me that there were more people involved in this, he was just the one who did the dirty work

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RaiNKhAN    United States. Oct 29 2014 08:38. Posts 4080

this show is a masterpiece. that episode where he infiltrated the ghetto and escaped was so ill

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Srsbob   Canada. Oct 29 2014 09:42. Posts 30

Finale was good, it made me happy that Rust found God.


Syllogism   New Zealand. Oct 30 2014 04:14. Posts 214


  On October 29 2014 08:42 Srsbob wrote:
Finale was good, it made me happy that Rust found God.




lol


mnj   United States. Oct 30 2014 12:46. Posts 3848


  On March 23 2014 10:16 TheHuHu3 wrote:
Finished the season. I don't think it's as great as everyone makes it seem. 9.5 on IMDB? Ehhh, don't think so. As bad ass as episode 4 was, it was almost all filler, which is pretty shitty in an 8-episode season. And I started to lose interest when the questioning / narrating stopped at end of episode 6. I don't even remember what happened in episode 7 at all. The finale was okay. I thought the serial killer villain reveal was lame. The way Rust described this guy in the first couple of episodes was intriguing but it just ended up being an incestuous crazy hill billy.

The acting was top notch, specifically from Woody Harrelson.



there's too much focus on endings in narrative fiction. people expect movies to climax in the 3rd act with a big set piece and for books/tv to rap everything up in the last chapter/episode and make some grand statement.

with no more mystery to unravel or any more clues to obsess over the insane internet theories between the space between sunday nights we had to accept and make peace with the fact that this long, bizarre trip was over.

marty's father in law being the yellow king, maggie being the yellow king, or that marty's daugter audrey would be directly implicated in the cult's misdeeds, or how rust possibly planted the first killing because his daughter was the first victim etc.

sure there were several red herrings, but this fueled wild speculation, speculation that would be on your mind every weekday at work. as each week passed each wild theory would be continuously whittled down to eventually one while simultaneously realizing the dread that the euphoric speculation would eventually come to an end.

the climax was at the midpoint of the series, the moment with the most amount of possibilities including possible exploration into the supernatural. if you felt true detective didn't peak in the final episode it was because it peaked every week.


mnj   United States. Oct 30 2014 12:49. Posts 3848


  On October 28 2014 18:13 impact69 wrote:
Colin Farrel and Vince Vaughn? lol gg



iono if your being sarcastic or not, but people with any doubts about vince vaughn should check out swingers.

and who's better than colin farrel at playing a neurotic, coked up, anxious protagonist.


drone666   Brasil. Oct 30 2014 19:14. Posts 1821

Vince Vaughn lol

Dont listen to anything I say 

impact69   Mexico. Oct 30 2014 19:28. Posts 307


  On October 30 2014 11:49 mnj wrote:
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iono if your being sarcastic or not, but people with any doubts about vince vaughn should check out swingers.

and who's better than colin farrel at playing a neurotic, coked up, anxious protagonist.


I'm not. I did see Swingers but that was over 15 years ago, dunno about him but Farrel is just awful.


dnagardi   Hungary. Apr 04 2020 16:24. Posts 1776

rewatched the series. God damn it's still epic. The atmosphere and characters suck you in so hard
I miss shows like this nowadays.


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Apr 04 2020 20:01. Posts 9634

watch Devs


qtix   Belarus. Apr 24 2020 10:37. Posts 2

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