On April 24 2013 16:09 Spitfiree wrote:
Well congratulations to Borussia Dortmund for winning their first CL :D
Obviously its very doubtful who s the better squad but they rape Bayern in mental game
It would be their second brah, they won in 1997. Beat Juventus 3:1 in the final.
Bayern will choke in the final. They always do, Robben will probably miss a penalty and it will be ALL downhill from there. There is a VERY minor chance that Bayern might even fuck up in-front of Barca in the second leg, (remember the Germany-Sweden game). I have no faith in Bayern in big moments.
I like BVB better.
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Without defense it is very very hard to win CL. If Juve had two good strikers they had a REALLY good chance of wining it. Hopefully next year Juve will sign up two world class strikers and we will have a go at it again. Barca and Real defense is TOTAL shit. I have never seen world class teams concede goals. It is still beyond me why Barca missed the summer and jan to sign a decent defender. Even a player like Davide Astori in Cagliari is better than their CBs.
Come back for Barca is much harder than Real for obv reasons. But I also see Bayern dropping the ball more than I see BVB doing that. Arsenal game was a perfect example just few weeks ago.
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How to tell if you are beyond help is talking as if you were one of the players. Fucking annoying as shit. "We will this and that!" No. No you won't. You are watching the game not playing in the actual matches.
Strikers are not that important anymore unless they are extremely good( dont even envision Messi and CR cause they are above the level of anyone ) . Midfielders do all the job basically. Juventus wouldnt be able to touch any of those top4 teams mainly because they lack the mid lane players. As i said RM are shit without Marcelo , it was said that Lewandowski might not play and im glad he did. And yeah BM will choke in the final just because Dortmund runs them over every time they meet.
Was 6yo @ 97 so couldnt blame me for not knowing they won it then :D
Bayern did beat Dortmund this season in the german cup and in both regular games iirc(one might have ended draw not sure).
They have improved a lot on their mental stability.
I highly doubt they will choke in the final.
I think they are basically unbeatable this season and by far the best team in Europe.
Spanish teams wont stand a chance on the 2nd leg imo.
I am not even sure they are able to win their home games.Might end up all draws or even another win for Bayern /Dortmund.
Jive lacks midlane players?? LoL, watch Juve playing dude.
And u are mental if u think strikers don't do much. Look at players like RVP,falcao, cavani, Lewan, etc.
And Juve did so much against Bayern than Barca did. Juve had some chances against Bayern and both of the goals Bayern scored were fluke goals. Specially the shot in the first 30second of the game. Obv Bayern were superior, but compared to the amount of money they have that is not suprising at all.
When I say Juve played better than Barca I am pointing out how tactically Juve did so much better to disable bayerns tactical game plans. In defending Juve might be the strongest team in the world right now.
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What im saying is if you lack the good midlane even with world class strikers you are bound to failure. Good teams will just run you over.
Bayern scored 2 out of 4 goals with an offside and a foul and a 3rd one is 50%-50% legit, yeah there should've been one penalty for them, but overall they didnt deserve more than 2-0 and in the end they still didnt have as much possesion as Barca. Italian clubs are known for their defense and taking on counter attacks as their primary weapon. Juve is def not even a top5 team in the world right now. Bayern deserve the title tbh considering their past couple of years, this year and so on, but they did not deserve such a hardcore win. All of those top 4 teams that r left in the CL rely highly on their midlanes, the second their midlane fails all of Messi, Ronaldo, Muller and Lewandowski have to work 500% more to do what they usually do
If Real had played at least a whole half like they played the last 15mins they would've 100% gone through to the final. Too bad Lewandowski didnt score that was such a beautiful shot. Felt like Ronaldo didnt absolutely nothing ( I only saw 2nd half tho) - he was well covered. Impressed by both Lewandowski for not getting irritated from all the provocations and Howard Webb also did an awesome job
I am not a professional player, but I know the game pretty well. Pay attention to Ramos in the last 5-10min. I guarantee you that BVB would have MURDER Madrid have they played like that for an entire half (or even 20min). You can not have your CB's pushing so high up on the pitch for 45min. Specially if the other team got ppl like Lewan or Gotze. You will get punished so bad. The last 5min of the game is OK to do it, cause the other team mentality is on defending with 10 men and they all come back to basically seal the deal and also everyone got tired legs at that point.
I rank Juve very highly, but not because I am fan, because they follow tactic very well. Juve currently is below Madrid and Barca and Bayern. But its not by much. With two solid forwards I actually think its a 50-50 game vs any of the top team. Italian teams are deadly when they play top teams. Game won't be a pretty game, but it will be close result. So Juve with a player like Balotelli, Aguero etc. Can grind a 1-0 win against ANY team. It won't be pretty, but it will be a good game.
Also there are offside goals and marginal calls on ANY game. Every team who has won the CL has ridden their luck and many points during the season,
And last thing is that going for position is suicide when u are playing Barca. If u pres high trying to win the ball back they will murder you by making runs in the space u leave in ur own half. And their players up front have such good touches that they can do ALOT in a very small space u leave there. (Look at Messi goal vs Milan this year) The way to play Barca is what Bayern did. And its the same tactic of Celtic, Real, Inter (2010) etc. You give them the ball and let them have it and make 1,390,854 passes inside their own half or even in the middle third of the pitch. But you defend tactically in the final 3rd and leave no room for Messi and Co to run behind ur midfield or defense. Anything else is just setting yourself up for a total disaster.
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