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UFC 159: Jones vs. Sonnen

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 22 2013 01:47. Posts 13257

Date: Saturday, April 27th
Preliminary Card (Facebook): 18:00 LP.net / 4pm PST / 7pm EST Facebook stream
Preliminary Card (FX): 19:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card Time (PPV): 21:00 LP.net / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: Prelims are Live on FX & Facebook/YouTube - http://www.vipbox.tv (All MMA events are listed under the UFC button. Press the UFC button and you'll see the event in the list.)





Main Card (PPV)

Jon Jones (17-1) vs. Chael Sonnen (27-12-1) (Light Heavyweight Championship)
Michael Bisping (23-5) vs. Alan Belcher (18-7) (Middleweight)
Roy Nelson (18-7) vs. Cheick Kongo (18-7-2) (Heavyweight)
Phil Davis (10-1) vs. Vinny Magalhaes (10-5) (Light Heavyweight)
Jim Miller (22-4) vs. Pat Healy (29-16) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (FX)

Bryan Caraway (13-4) vs. Johnny Bedford (19-9-1) (Bantamweight)
Ovince St. Preux (12-5) vs. Gian Villante (10-3) (Light Heavyweight)
Sara McMann (6-0) vs. Sheila Gaff (10-4-1) (Women's Bantamweight)
Rustam Khabilov (15-1) vs. Yancy Medeiros (9-0) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (Facebook)

Leonard Garcia (15-10-1) vs. Cody McKenzie (13-3) (Featherweight)
Nick Catone (9-4) vs. James Head (9-3) (Welterweight)
Steven Siler (21-10) vs. Kurt Holobaugh (9-1) (Featherweight)

Other

- Jimy Hettes was expected to face Steven Siler at the event; however, Hettes was forced out of the bout with an injury and replaced by Kurt Holobaugh.
- Joe Proctor was expected to face Al Iaquinta at the event. However, the bout was scrapped as both fighters sustained training injuries leading up to the fight.
- Erik Perez was scheduled to face Johnny Bedford, but acquired staph infection in the leg and had to bow out. Bryan Caraway stepped in and took the fight on 6 days notice.

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 22 2013 01:50. Posts 13257



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These are my gun-to-the-head UFC 159 picks, prior to doing any research. I'm sticking with most of these picks though.

• Jon Jones > Chael Sonnen
• Michael Bisping > Alan Belcher
• Roy Nelson > Cheick Kongo
• Phil Davis > Vinny Magalhaes
• Jim Miller > Pat Healy
• Erik Perez > Johnny Bedford
• Ovince St. Preux > Gian Villante
• Sara McMann > Sheila Gaff
• Rustam Khabilov > Yancy Medeiros
• Leonard Garcia > Cody McKenzie
• James Head > Nick Catone
• Kurt Holobaugh > Steven Siler

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longple    Sweden. Apr 22 2013 01:51. Posts 4472

yey


Daut    United States. Apr 22 2013 06:04. Posts 8955

the promo with the lame cover of we will rock you might be the worst in the history of the UFC

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut 

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 22 2013 09:38. Posts 13257

^ It also looked like a Jon Jones highlight video instead of a UFC promo video.

Rekrul is a newb 

Raidern   Brasil. Apr 22 2013 12:18. Posts 4248

Man what a beating Shogun took, I feel sorry for him every time i see scenes from that fight lol =[

im a regular at nl5 

alejandicto   . Apr 22 2013 15:04. Posts 865

Easy bets on Jones, Phil Davis, Jim Miller and Roy Nelson. Not sure about Bisping.

BTW I think Erik Perez is out of this event.

 Last edit: 22/04/2013 15:04

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 22 2013 15:48. Posts 13257

Bryan Caraway replaces an injured Erik Perez, and will face Johnny Bedford this Saturday.

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HaiVan   Bulgaria. Apr 22 2013 16:24. Posts 2083

Jon Jones > Chael Sonnen
Michael Bisping > Alan Belcher
Roy Nelson > Cheick Kongo
Phil Davis > Vinny Magalhaes
Jim Miller > Pat Healy

Good overall card.

Going to wait for CosmoDamus to make his predictions, because you know, i like money.

Poker chobo. 

YoMeR   United States. Apr 22 2013 17:49. Posts 12438

sonnen drawing dead yes barring some freak accident and jon jones slips and breaks his neck during the fight or his knee decides it not longer wants to be functional and just explodes out of his leg.

eZ Life. 

SleepyHead   . Apr 22 2013 19:00. Posts 881

Everybody says they're going to get inside and pressure Jones. Sonnen will be the first to actually do it. It's just so tough for Sonnen in a 5 round fight because he doesn't have the ability to finish Jones, so he's going to have to win 3 rounds. If Jones uses his offensive wrestling and puts Sonnen on his back then he'll probably finish in the 1st. If he goes on the defensive and tries to sprawl and brawl then Sonnen has a chance.

Dude you some social darwinist ideas that they are giving hitlers ghost a boner - Baal 

Jamie217   Canada. Apr 22 2013 19:54. Posts 4351

Man I really dont think Sonnen is drawing dead at all, not saying Im gonna bet on him but think he will give Jones some problems


Stim_Abuser   United States. Apr 22 2013 19:55. Posts 7499

I agree that Sonnen will be the first to get on the inside to pressure Jones, so at least that will be interesting to see.


ONE TIME CHAEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

Maome666   Brasil. Apr 22 2013 20:19. Posts 156

lol sonnen


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 22 2013 20:59. Posts 13257

Rekrul is a newb 

SleepyHead   . Apr 22 2013 21:19. Posts 881



gotten to

Dude you some social darwinist ideas that they are giving hitlers ghost a boner - Baal 

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 22 2013 21:25. Posts 13257


  On April 22 2013 20:19 SleepyHead wrote:


gotten to



He's just mad cuz Sonnen exposed the Nogueira brothers, when they thought a bus was a horse and started feeding it a carrot and petting it.

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Svenman87   United States. Apr 23 2013 00:37. Posts 4636

Really excited to see Phil Davis again :D


Daut    United States. Apr 23 2013 06:28. Posts 8955

biggest thing that stands out to me is pat healy. hes +265 and he should be about 40-50% to win. guy is very very good

some other big favorites win an insane amount of the time (90%+) and should be bet

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, DautLast edit: 23/04/2013 06:29

DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Apr 23 2013 10:54. Posts 8623

Yea I thought so too about Healy so put a small bet on him.

Not sure about the other fights yet. Tempted to by the Sonnen odds just due to random factors including TRT, weight cuts, Jones not striking me as mentally as good etc. However, the fact still stands that Jones is a much better fighter.


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 23 2013 11:10. Posts 13257

I bet the over 1.5 rounds prop for the Jones/Sonnen and Nelson/Kongo fights. One was -170, the other was -130.

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Nazgul    Netherlands. Apr 23 2013 11:39. Posts 7080


  On April 23 2013 10:10 PuertoRican wrote:
I bet the over 1.5 rounds prop for the Jones/Sonnen and Nelson/Kongo fights. One was -170, the other was -130.


Those odds on Jones vs Sonnen are amazing. On 5Dimes it is -260 to start in round 2 and I was considering that.

I have Bisping -155 for $387.50, then Nelson vs Kongo to go to decision +185 and Kongo to win +195.

Also have Jones -823.

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmoLast edit: 23/04/2013 14:55

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 23 2013 15:15. Posts 13257


  On April 23 2013 10:39 Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +


Those odds on Jones vs Sonnen are amazing. On 5Dimes it is -260 to start in round 2 and I was considering that.

I have Bisping -155 for $387.50, then Nelson vs Kongo to go to decision +185 and Kongo to win +195.

Also have Jones -823.


Yeah, I was lucky to get my bet in on the over 1.5 rounds for both fights when I did.

I just saw that the Jones/Sonnen o1.5 rounds jumped from -170 to -260 in less than a day.

I have $50 on Jones/Sonnen o1.5 rounds at -170. $20 on Nelson/Kongo o1.5 rounds at -135, and another of the same bet at -145.

Also, if you think the fight will go to a decision, I'd only bet on "goes to a decision @ +185" and "Kongo wins by decision @ +426," cuz what we are saying by placing this bet is:

1. Roy Nelson is having a hard time landing his big overhand right.
2. Kongo is hitting and moving, keeping Nelson moving a lot, which will get the fat man tired after awhile.
3. Kongo has gotten better at wrestling, mostly in that he can hold people against the cage and grind out a win if necessary.
4. Nelson slows down as the fight progresses. I wouldn't say he gases like other have said, but he does noticeably slow down. Having Kongo micro around the octagon and throwing shots, then clinching when he sees a good spot, means that Kongo will win a decision.

If you actually think about it, how would Nelson win a decision? If he's winning the fight, it will be because he landed more strikes, which usually means he'll get the KO/TKO. If it goes to a decision, that means Nelson wasn't able to force his game plan on Kongo.

Lastly, if it does go to a decision, I see Kongo winning the fight by using his height and reach to stay on the outside, and then clinching against the cage when needed. This will become easier for Kongo if he can not get knocked out and take it to round 3, cuz Kongo is favored to win that round for the reasons already mentioned. Kind of like a Condit vs. Diaz strategy, mixed with clinches against the cage.

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SleepyHead   . Apr 23 2013 15:50. Posts 881

Sonnen winning by decision is +1050 on 5dimes

Dude you some social darwinist ideas that they are giving hitlers ghost a boner - Baal 

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 23 2013 16:14. Posts 13257

Saw someone post this a little bit ago:

Jones/Sonnen ends itd 400 to win 100
Not jones itd 100 to win 400

It's basically win 400 if sonnen finishes jones, break even otherwise.

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taco   Iceland. Apr 23 2013 17:41. Posts 1793


  On April 23 2013 15:14 PuertoRican wrote:
Saw someone post this a little bit ago:
Jones/Sonnen ends itd 400 to win 100
Not jones itd 100 to win 400
It's basically win 400 if sonnen finishes jones, break even otherwise.



So it's break even...


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 24 2013 15:42. Posts 13257

Rekrul is a newb 

alejandicto   . Apr 25 2013 00:12. Posts 865

lol 0.45-0.48 his head xD that is new.

BTW I just made my bets:

Parlay: Jim Miller, Jon Jones and Phil Davis (-111)
Nelson wins by KO/TKO (+130)

Only two bets


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Apr 25 2013 00:50. Posts 9634

Im the reason Waldo is hiding


MysticJoey   Poland. Apr 25 2013 01:17. Posts 1430

push the buy button lol


Svenman87   United States. Apr 25 2013 01:51. Posts 4636


gebbstet   Sweden. Apr 25 2013 07:12. Posts 391

Can someone explain what you mean with -100 or +100?


TianYuan    Korea (South). Apr 25 2013 10:14. Posts 6817

-100 means you'd have to bet 100 to win, +100 would be bet 100 to win 200.... I think?

-800 would mean you have to bet 800 to win 100.

Hm.. Off-suite socks..Last edit: 25/04/2013 22:37

ERASA   Germany. Apr 25 2013 10:18. Posts 2440

I think Vinny Magalhaes will win


handbanana21   United States. Apr 25 2013 11:18. Posts 3037

@puerto
2. Kongo is hitting and moving, keeping Nelson moving a lot, which will get the fat man tired after awhile.

-kongo hits and moves, but its USUALLY backwards until he reaches the cage, then he escapes laterally. So roys chances of dropping a bomb on kongos chin is very high. And theres no fear of kongos power because he boxes off his back foot (lol french people). Which means that he can go in for the double jab, get right in kongos chest, and drop a bomb when kongo retreats.

 Last edit: 25/04/2013 12:07

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 25 2013 14:18. Posts 13257


  On April 25 2013 10:18 handbanana21 wrote:
@puerto
2. Kongo is hitting and moving, keeping Nelson moving a lot, which will get the fat man tired after awhile.

-kongo hits and moves, but its USUALLY backwards until he reaches the cage, then he escapes laterally. So roys chances of dropping a bomb on kongos chin is very high. And theres no fear of kongos power because he boxes off his back foot (lol french people). Which means that he can go in for the double jab, get right in kongos chest, and drop a bomb when kongo retreats.



This would require Nelson actually knowing how to box, which he doesn't.

I don't see Kongo winning unless he can clinch enough to go to a decision. However, I think that he knows where he's at in his career and needs to avoid trading with Nelson, which means he will play it safe at least in the first round, which is when Nelson is most dangerous.

I can see a KO/TKO for Nelson, but I don't think it will come in the first round. All I need is for the fight to get for at least 7.5 minutes, and then I win my bet. I also have a small bet on Kongo by decision.

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alejandicto   . Apr 25 2013 15:38. Posts 865




PuertoRican   United States. Apr 25 2013 17:22. Posts 13257




UFC 159 Countdown: Jones vs. Sonnen
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UFC 159 Countdown: Miller vs. Healy
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UFC 159 Countdown: Davis vs. Magalhaes
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Apr 25 2013 18:31. Posts 9634

betsafe odds are 1.11 for Jones and 6.85 for Sonnen .. isnt it kinda +ev to bet for Sonnen there


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 26 2013 11:15. Posts 13257



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Mother of Phil Davis' child claims Davis choked her during sex as she plead for him to stop; threatened to kill her.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/4/26/...lent-sex-child-custody-choke-threaten

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 26 2013 14:55. Posts 13257




Weigh-ins start in 1 hours and 5 minutes. (15:00 LP.net)

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Stim_Abuser   United States. Apr 26 2013 17:16. Posts 7499

Bispings constant attempt to talk shit during stare downs to help sell fights sucks.

lol wtf why is Chael drinking a coke-a-cola after the weigh ins?

Chael is awesome, one time please!

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

Minsk   United States. Apr 26 2013 17:37. Posts 1558

http://youtu.be/owuSqAcR5-A?t=41s

LOL 45 seconds


Jamie217   Canada. Apr 26 2013 19:27. Posts 4351

what about it.......


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 26 2013 19:38. Posts 13257


  On April 26 2013 18:27 Jamie217 wrote:
what about it.......



Jones smacks the security guard in the back of the head when he reaches his arms out.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Apr 27 2013 06:52. Posts 9634


  On April 26 2013 16:16 Stim_Abuser wrote:
Bispings constant attempt to talk shit during stare downs to help sell fights sucks.

lol wtf why is Chael drinking a coke-a-cola after the weigh ins?

Chael is awesome, one time please!


probably coz he gets paid


Nazgul    Netherlands. Apr 27 2013 07:57. Posts 7080

It's crazy to think Chael has a 1 in 10 shot to become the LHW champion, it would be so hilarious. Imagine all the talking he would do, and then a rematch with Jones or a superfight with Anderson!

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmo 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Apr 27 2013 08:18. Posts 9634

A friend of mine told me that Silva will drop down to LHW so they can have a fight with Jones is that correct? I m new to the scene so I really dont know any of the meta going on


MysticJoey   Poland. Apr 27 2013 09:32. Posts 1430

nothing is set, might be jones going up, but still some time for that to happen


ERASA   Germany. Apr 27 2013 10:13. Posts 2440


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 27 2013 12:37. Posts 13257

Head vs. Catone is cancelled. Catone missed weight and then went to the hospital for dehydration.

Rekrul is a newb 

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 27 2013 18:21. Posts 13257



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UFC 159 single bets (prior to short notice bets and live bets)

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Daut    United States. Apr 27 2013 19:06. Posts 8955

bets: holobaugh 1u, healy .2u, bisping 1u, jones 4u

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut 

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 27 2013 19:29. Posts 13257

Stupid Holobaugh with the fail judo throw... Kid needs to work on his boxing too.

Rekrul is a newb 

Daut    United States. Apr 27 2013 19:41. Posts 8955

if only the judo fail was his only stupid moment. Those guillotines were braindead

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut 

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 27 2013 19:53. Posts 13257

God damn, what a joke Garcia is...

Brown belt my ass.

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HaiVan   Bulgaria. Apr 27 2013 20:32. Posts 2083



lol poor guy

Poker chobo. 

MysticJoey   Poland. Apr 27 2013 20:33. Posts 1430

ye they left him there in the center and noone said anything xD


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 27 2013 20:38. Posts 13257

Yeah, dumb hippy thought Rogan was going to interview him.

I guess he doesn't watch the Facebook fights, cuz they never interview those guys.

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lmao...

Referee: Can you see?
Villante: No.
Referee: Fights over.
Villante: What, wait! I can see!

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HaiVan   Bulgaria. Apr 27 2013 21:16. Posts 2083

wtf ref

Poker chobo. 

ERASA   Germany. Apr 27 2013 21:18. Posts 2440

I thought he was asking for his 5 minutes which you have when you get kicked in the balls... dont know if those are granted for an eye poke though


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 27 2013 21:36. Posts 13257

I think this is a No Conest, because the accident happened in the first round.

Would be nice of Khabilov got the win though...

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YES! I was wrong and I got the win, sweet~

Rustam Khabilov $44.00 to win $20.00
Rustam Khabilov $127.50 to win $68.92
Rustam Khabilov $37.00 to win $20.00
Rustam Khabilov wins inside distance $10.30 to win $10.00
Rustam Khabilov wins inside distance $15.00 to win $21.45

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Main card: http://www.vipbox.tv/boxing/150841/1/...nes-vs-sonnen-live-stream-online.html

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ERASA   Germany. Apr 27 2013 22:33. Posts 2440

LOOOOOOL


ilbh   Brasil. Apr 27 2013 23:18. Posts 275

am I the only one getting lag on vipsports streams? it's unwatchable


jvilla777   Australia. Apr 27 2013 23:18. Posts 1348

holy fk ROY NELSON!

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

MysticJoey   Poland. Apr 27 2013 23:22. Posts 1430

not your best day puerto


handbanana21   United States. Apr 27 2013 23:22. Posts 3037


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 27 2013 23:29. Posts 13257


  On April 27 2013 22:22 MysticJoey wrote:
not your best day puerto



The worst day I've ever had in UFC bets. I've lost hundreds more on this card by live betting.

Rekrul is a newb 

Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 27 2013 23:52. Posts 4742

oi, what happend, i have no sound, am at some crappy pay 2 euro for 25 min lobby pc lol, io oi, how exciting


Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 27 2013 23:52. Posts 4742

oj, blood coming out


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 27 2013 23:54. Posts 13257

Damn, sucks for Belcher. They said he already had surgery on that eye, now he's bleeding out of it from an eye poke... Ouch.

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Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 27 2013 23:54. Posts 4742

Is Joe saying anything cool¿


ERASA   Germany. Apr 27 2013 23:57. Posts 2440

"Can't wait to see you in the ocatagon again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


ERASA   Germany. Apr 28 2013 00:02. Posts 2440

dat outfit :D


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 28 2013 00:05. Posts 13257

Anyone who bet Bisping by decision, ended up losing their bet, even the result was a technical decision.

The bookies count it as "in the distance" instead of a decision.

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lmao... Of course Chael would lose in the first round... What a fucking night this has been.

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Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 28 2013 00:17. Posts 4742

Awh, ye, sick one sided, jones too much, way to much for him

usj, would have been sick with a "miracle" xD


drone666   Brasil. Apr 28 2013 00:18. Posts 1828

fuck

Dont listen to anything I say 

MiPwnYa    Brasil. Apr 28 2013 00:30. Posts 5230

broken toe interview ftw lol


HaiVan   Bulgaria. Apr 28 2013 00:31. Posts 2083

Jones' broken toe.

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Damn thats nasty.

Poker chobo. 

whamm!   Albania. Apr 28 2013 00:33. Posts 11625

Damn i need cable. These free streams are impossible on an android phone


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 28 2013 00:55. Posts 13257





  On April 27 2013 23:31 HaiVan wrote:
Jones' broken toe.

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Damn thats nasty.




Here's the .gif image:

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Dana White: Roy Nelson vs. Daniel Cormier or Roy Nelson vs. Mark Hunt, if Hunt beats JDS.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Apr 28 2013 04:40. Posts 9634

guess with all the promotion Sonnen had no time to prepare for the real fight ....
Hope Nelson gets Cormier. Cormier will punish him hard


DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Apr 28 2013 05:09. Posts 8623

Well, I won like 200 USD on Healy, so that's nice. Rest of event was so-so. A couple of fun KO's.


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Apr 28 2013 12:04. Posts 8918

Id love to see Hunt vs Nelson but it seems really shitty for Hunt after beating JDS, should give him a fight with BF/Cain.


alejandicto   . Apr 28 2013 14:01. Posts 865

if Chael would have resist 27 more seconds he would be the champion : O.
Cant fucking believe Jim Miller lost, at least I won the bet of Nelson winning by KO/TKO.


soberstone   United States. Apr 28 2013 14:51. Posts 2662

That gif is soooo nasty, literally looks like it exploded


 



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