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Gnarly   United States. Apr 15 2013 16:04. Posts 1723

Two explosions right after the other at finish line at marathon. Deaths confirmed. Third possible explosion, controlled, or controlled bomb that's been diffused.

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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Apr 15 2013 16:14. Posts 6374

is bruins match still happening?

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Apr 15 2013 16:16. Posts 5365

here's a link http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2013/04/2013415191144419266.html

15april tax day in america, someones mad...

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 15 2013 16:17. Posts 1723

Hearing that the controlled explosion was at JFK Library... Still looking for confirmation, but am listening to this:

http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/6254/web

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dUUd_   Estonia. Apr 15 2013 16:18. Posts 1840

or maybe USA will attack north-korea ? freeroll

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 15 2013 16:20. Posts 1723

http://www.local12.com/mostpopular/st...ng-Boston/PJFSyYjreESeP1rPphm62w.cspx


  An hour later, Boston Police warned spectators that they may heard another blast as they detonate a possible third bomb found along the route.

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 15 2013 16:21. Posts 1723


  On April 15 2013 15:18 dUUd_ wrote:
or maybe USA will attack north-korea ? freeroll



NK issued an ultimatum today, stating they will launch a blitz attack unless the South stops their military preparations. Seems fucking stupid to allow a blitz to happen by letting down your defenses. Also, there's speculation that Kim was assassinated as he hasn't been seen in a couple weeks, though I don't know if he's shown up for his dad's anniversary.

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Syllogism   New Zealand. Apr 15 2013 16:29. Posts 214

This race was dedicated to the Newtown Shooting Victims


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 15 2013 16:36. Posts 13257

Rekrul is a newbLast edit: 15/04/2013 18:07

capaneo   Canada. Apr 15 2013 17:06. Posts 8465


  On April 15 2013 15:36 PuertoRican wrote:
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Was thinking the same. I have them in some parlays, and I hate when teams/fighters get canceled from parlays cuz they don't let you get your money back and re-make the parlay into something else.

Sucks the most when it's a 2 team parlay. Cuz if I wanted to bet 1 team, it'd be much bigger than what I risked on the two teams.

Edit: Yeah, it is canceled. NHL.com said the Senators/Bruins game will be played at a later date.


We got atleast two dead people and many with life long injuries etc. The world is about to go to war.

How da fuck can you possibly rant about your bet on a PUBLIC forum?

Then people wonder why everyone hates Americans. The sense of entitlement is just beyond belief.

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nerdonpoker   . Apr 15 2013 17:19. Posts 414

lmao


LikeASet   United States. Apr 15 2013 17:33. Posts 2113

Reading youtube comments, faith in humanity destroyed


nolan   Ireland. Apr 15 2013 17:40. Posts 6205

fuck fuck fuck fuck

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Apr 15 2013 17:40. Posts 9634

My bet is on Hizbula ... its about time Iran takes its democracy
Know i sound like an asshole and im sorry for what happened, but if this turns out to be another "terrorist attack" i will be obliged to call bullshit.
Hopefully it was some military guy that went nuts so things wont escalate into another direction with thousands of deaths more. Control by mass stress is the easiest thing now sadly


HaiVan   Bulgaria. Apr 15 2013 17:48. Posts 2083

Damn, for a second just after it happened i thought it didn't look like a terrorist act. Maybe some pipes blew i thought. Nope. Fucking jihadis at it again.

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TalentedTom    Canada. Apr 15 2013 17:53. Posts 20070

better ban the guns before more bombs go off

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 15 2013 18:06. Posts 13257


  On April 15 2013 16:06 capaneo wrote:
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We got atleast two dead people and many with life long injuries etc. The world is about to go to war.

How da fuck can you possibly rant about your bet on a PUBLIC forum?

Then people wonder why everyone hates Americans. The sense of entitlement is just beyond belief.



Yeah, my bad. I was in the middle of thinking about sports, and I didn't use my common sense when I clicked on this thread and responded to a comment that was probably meant to be a joke.

You're right about Americans though, for the most part.

I've edited my original post.

Rekrul is a newbLast edit: 15/04/2013 18:08

capaneo   Canada. Apr 15 2013 18:11. Posts 8465

Sorry man, I actually don't have problem with people even making "too soon" jokes. But for some reason ur comment made me a bit mad.

In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber 

capaneo   Canada. Apr 15 2013 18:12. Posts 8465

This can go either way, we got the Israel independence day and tax day at the same time.

I actually think this is more likely to be an extreme right wing group than a Muslim terrorist attack due to the recent events. I don't think AlQaida is capable of doing this. Iran is definitely not that stupid.

If it is the white right wing group then I can not wait for Fox News to spin this amd somehow blame it on Obama.

In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc FaberLast edit: 15/04/2013 18:17

nolan   Ireland. Apr 15 2013 18:25. Posts 6205

I just don't understand why the Boston Marathon as a target. It's an international event with people (including CHILDREN) from all over the world in attendance...

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cariadon   Estonia. Apr 15 2013 18:25. Posts 4019

I flicked through the news channels today and saw 42 killed with 257 wounded in Iraq. Made me think about the value of an american vs the value of an iraq citizen.
CNN
I don't even want to know what heppened in Asia. People die every day, not everyone has the compassion of Mother Theresa.

Standard of C. to judge everyone else based on his beliefs.


NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 15 2013 18:27. Posts 4952

I dont think Al Qaeda would waste their time on such low yield explosives. If they're going to blow shit up, they're going to do it right. Probably just some fucktard American.

bye now 

cariadon   Estonia. Apr 15 2013 18:28. Posts 4019

I refrained from making a Tutz joke to avoid the fate of Gannicus.


Gnarly   United States. Apr 15 2013 18:43. Posts 1723


  On April 15 2013 17:25 cariadon wrote:
I flicked through the news channels today and saw 42 killed with 257 wounded in Iraq. Made me think about the value of an american vs the value of an iraq citizen.
CNN
I don't even want to know what heppened in Asia. People die every day, not everyone has the compassion of Mother Theresa.

Standard of C. to judge everyone else based on his beliefs.



Americans care about Americans.
Iraqis care about Iraqis.

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cariadon   Estonia. Apr 15 2013 18:54. Posts 4019

Yes, that kind of goes without saying and i get where you are going with that. With a population over 300 million surely there are more important developments worthy of making the news. To a bystander this seems to be blown out of proportion. Just my 2 cents.


dogmeat   Czech Republic. Apr 15 2013 18:57. Posts 6374


  On April 15 2013 16:06 capaneo wrote:
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We got atleast two dead people and many with life long injuries etc. The world is about to go to war.

How da fuck can you possibly rant about your bet on a PUBLIC forum?

Then people wonder why everyone hates Americans. The sense of entitlement is just beyond belief.



LOL then you better stop killing children in iraq

ignorant faggot

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Apr 15 2013 19:10. Posts 5365


  On April 15 2013 17:43 Gnarly wrote:
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Americans care about Americans.
Iraqis care about Iraqis.


yeah it's interesting, although there are far less bombings in the west than in iraq, so it's not really a suprise to see iraqis getting killed. i'm not sure if this should make it less news worthy.

To your 2nd point, i think the main population of the west has a lot of empathy to the developing world. I see a lot of young people donating to charitable causes. There are also polls that show the americans care, although maybe less towards iraqis than other poor countries. The problem is the rich and powerful in the west don't care, and they are the ones that run the world atm.

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TTomass   United States. Apr 15 2013 19:20. Posts 84

Send prayers to the families affected. And for the ones responsible. They got you on video camera, you are so stupid.

 Last edit: 15/04/2013 22:07

Gnarly   United States. Apr 15 2013 19:30. Posts 1723


  On April 15 2013 18:10 Stroggoz wrote:
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yeah it's interesting, although there are far less bombings in the west than in iraq, so it's not really a suprise to see iraqis getting killed. i'm not sure if this should make it less news worthy.

To your 2nd point, i think the main population of the west has a lot of empathy to the developing world. I see a lot of young people donating to charitable causes. There are also polls that show the americans care, although maybe less towards iraqis than other poor countries. The problem is the rich and powerful in the west don't care, and they are the ones that run the world atm.



While I am not saying anything bad about charity and good causes, it would be interesting to see the closets of those who do donate to foreign charity. (bill gates)

What do the Earth residents call themselves once there are Martians? Whenever such a situation occurs, then it will be:

Earth people care about Earth people. (Insert proper term)
Martians care about Martians.

Literally worlds apart. Though:

Humans care about humans.
Humans care about life.
Life cares about life.

I'm not making much sense, probably.

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cariadon   Estonia. Apr 15 2013 19:41. Posts 4019

If life is equal then equal attention should be given to similar events yet it is not so. You are making as much sense as i was with my initial response. Some seem more susceptible to news like this and the dissection of why it is so probably needs insight or some quotes from the philosophy gurus of this forum. I don't see world war 3 happening because of this, no reason to cry wolf.


Gnarly   United States. Apr 15 2013 19:45. Posts 1723


  On April 15 2013 18:41 cariadon wrote:
If life is equal then equal attention should be given to similar events yet it is not so. You are making as much sense as i was with my initial response. Some seem more susceptible to news like this and the dissection of why it is so probably needs insight or some quotes from the philosophy gurus of this forum. I don't see world war 3 happening because of this, no reason to cry wolf.



You made as much sense as I did, lol. I don't think life is equal, just that life cares about life, species will care about their own species, communities will care about their communities. While I don't believe WW3 will happen any time soon, it's still worth noting when millions, maybe billions, possibly trillions are being spent sending fleets upon fleets to a section of the world. (aegis, thaad, B-2, all that jazz.)

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brambolius   Netherlands. Apr 15 2013 20:00. Posts 1708

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=046MuD1pYJg

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aCa_   . Apr 15 2013 20:14. Posts 471


  On April 15 2013 17:54 cariadon wrote:
Yes, that kind of goes without saying and i get where you are going with that. With a population over 300 million surely there are more important developments worthy of making the news. To a bystander this seems to be blown out of proportion. Just my 2 cents.



Its not the amount of people that are killed that important, its the implications that it has that is. Just look at 9/11 for an example and how it changed the U.S

 Last edit: 15/04/2013 20:14

RiKD    United States. Apr 15 2013 20:28. Posts 9917

We live in a beautiful yet chaotic world full of wonderfully transcendent distractions quite often distracted by randomness and unfortunately, too often, by psychotic evolved monkies.

I would send my prayors to people but I don't pray.

I am for sure thankful that my friends and family members that participated are safe and able to communicate.

If anyone has any ways to meaningfully contribute let's spread the word.


Stroggoz   New Zealand. Apr 15 2013 20:34. Posts 5365


  On April 15 2013 18:41 cariadon wrote:
If life is equal then equal attention should be given to similar events yet it is not so. You are making as much sense as i was with my initial response. Some seem more susceptible to news like this and the dissection of why it is so probably needs insight or some quotes from the philosophy gurus of this forum. I don't see world war 3 happening because of this, no reason to cry wolf.



i don't think this whole equal life thing is much of an argument for unfair news reporting. You know 9/11 for example had a huge impact on the world. It led to wars, increased terrorism from the united states and the middle east. Lots of things, so i would say that's more important news than some other attack that killed the same amount of people in Africa. Also when someone like steve jobs dies thats going to get reported a lot more than some person that no one knows about. Seems fair to me imo.

The propaganda model is something you should look at if your interested in bias in the media. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_model

If you wanna see some extreme biases, the new york times reported 1175 column inches in their news paper on the khmour rouge genocide. And just 70 column inches on the east timor genocide. The two differences being that the cambodian one was one the US wasn't involved in, the later was one that they were involved in.

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mnj   United States. Apr 15 2013 22:38. Posts 3848


  On April 15 2013 17:25 nolan wrote:
I just don't understand why the Boston Marathon as a target. It's an international event with people (including CHILDREN) from all over the world in attendance...



kinda the definition of terrorism :/ if it is


TTomass   United States. Apr 15 2013 22:47. Posts 84

this dude could take over, hitting buses, trains, he could be on his way to his next target, you think hes just fleeing for his life? Naw a man like this didn't suicide himself so he could set off more bombs imo
he suicided himself when he set up those bombs, hes going to do more targets.

 Last edit: 15/04/2013 22:47

NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 15 2013 23:59. Posts 4952


  On April 15 2013 17:25 nolan wrote:
I just don't understand why the Boston Marathon as a target. It's an international event with people (including CHILDREN) from all over the world in attendance...



Tax day. Boston. Tea party.

bye now 

Svenman87   United States. Apr 16 2013 00:40. Posts 4636

took about 30 minutes on my facebook feed before i saw a conspiracy theory.

waiting for LP to turn to that as well.


TTomass   United States. Apr 16 2013 00:44. Posts 84

this is not a conspiracy. they would fucking have better bombs, better setup, better everything. this was a trashy attack pulled off by one person


Gnarly   United States. Apr 16 2013 01:27. Posts 1723


  On April 15 2013 23:40 Svenman87 wrote:
took about 30 minutes on my facebook feed before i saw a conspiracy theory.

waiting for LP to turn to that as well.



I find entertainment in conspiracy theories, so don't take this as me being a tinfoiler, but the current one I have been reading about is linked to Aurora, Sandy Hook, and the Chinese. The Phelps from the sandy hook have the same address as some chinese guys who own a solar company, which is thought of as a front. They own property just miles from the aurora theater, own property in sandy hook and newton, own property in samwsoch or something, it's just miles from boston, and they also own property in atlanta, georgia. The list of properties is in sequential order of the attacks, and Lanza has been linked to the solar company. I don't know if holmes has been linked, but the drugs he's seemingly on has been said to come from the solar company. There was also some guy who did some numbers on the days between the attacks and whatnot and said the next attack will happen on 8/29, which just happens to be my birthday.

I really hope there isn't a next attack, especially on my birthday.

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capaneo   Canada. Apr 16 2013 01:28. Posts 8465

Low security and lots of media attention. I actually think it is a perfect target for "terrorizing" activities.

Also the issue of children is a non-issue for people from Middle East. MANY families in Iraw, Yemen, Afganestan have lost their children to Drone strikers and other actions taken by Americans.

According to USA records. Official American documents that is, since 2004. There has been 175 children, 535 civilian and 2400 "other group" dead in ONLY the drone strikes. And only the dead. The real number is probably 5-10 times the official numbers. "Other" definition is sometimes as loose as a teenage male.
But even with their own numbers that is 70 civilian and children dead EVERY YEAR. Which is about 6 civilian and children dead EVERY MONTH for the past 10 years and JUST from drones.
So if this bombing w 2-4 dead is done by Muslims the fact that "civilians and children" were killed is not an issue to them. They get an incident like this EVERY WEEK for the past 10 years just from drones.

That is why next time you USA is going to war they should think about the consequences like Ron Paul talks about. It's in their own fucking CIA reports.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Apr 16 2013 02:19. Posts 9634

Im sorry but those numbers look ridiculously small. Some statistician probably got paid off well to manipulate them that way


whamm!   Albania. Apr 16 2013 03:08. Posts 11625

I'd rather have the Russians and Chinese run the world - that would be so much better? I'd say as the most powerful nation who could've easily made everyone their slaves for the past 80 years has been fairly generous, being the so called "tyrant" that they are.

Try pulling this shit on Russian or Chinese soil and let's see how they deal with Iraq and any other terrorist shithole country.


devon06atX   Canada. Apr 16 2013 04:00. Posts 5462


  On April 16 2013 02:08 whamm! wrote:
I'd rather have the Russians and Chinese run the world - that would be so much better? I'd say as the most powerful nation who could've easily made everyone their slaves for the past 80 years has been fairly generous, being the so called "tyrant" that they are.

Try pulling this shit on Russian or Chinese soil and let's see how they deal with Iraq and any other terrorist shithole country.

There's been a couple silly-ass posts in this thread thus far, but you, sir, win the award for the best jack-ass post yet. Please keep up the good work.


whamm!   Albania. Apr 16 2013 04:19. Posts 11625

Thanks kid. Lol


flounder44   United States. Apr 16 2013 06:04. Posts 916

anyone know if our satellites similar to stuff like google-earth would have live feed of this? we have the technology to do surveilance of the earth afaik but anyone know more about how fed uses it im curious.


Stroggoz   New Zealand. Apr 16 2013 06:50. Posts 5365


  On April 16 2013 02:08 whamm! wrote:
I'd rather have the Russians and Chinese run the world - that would be so much better? I'd say as the most powerful nation who could've easily made everyone their slaves for the past 80 years has been fairly generous, being the so called "tyrant" that they are.

Try pulling this shit on Russian or Chinese soil and let's see how they deal with Iraq and any other terrorist shithole country.



9/11 happened because of american backed use of torture on an intellectual in egypt named sayyid qutb, in the 1950s. The torture radicalized his beliefs and inspired the creation of al queda.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Qutb

as far as slavery goes, If the developing world didn't have outside interference, which has mostly come from the US they would likely be as advanced as the western countries today. But organizations like the IMF make mafia style loans to poor countries(run by US backed dictators), keep them in poverty and their citizens have to choose between wage slavery and starvation. Many workers in the 19th century considered the wage system a form of slavery.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_slavery

But yeah im not gona deny the world would be pretty much shit if china or russia ran it. They have far less freedom of speech.

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TTomass   United States. Apr 16 2013 08:27. Posts 84

whats the chances the bomber is an amputee?


TalentedTom    Canada. Apr 16 2013 10:09. Posts 20070


  On April 16 2013 07:27 TTomass wrote:
whats the chances the bomber is an amputee?



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RaiNKhAN    United States. Apr 16 2013 11:03. Posts 4080

just 3 pages? we are desensitized

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NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 16 2013 11:17. Posts 4952


  On April 16 2013 00:28 capaneo wrote:
Low security and lots of media attention. I actually think it is a perfect target for "terrorizing" activities.

Also the issue of children is a non-issue for people from Middle East. MANY families in Iraw, Yemen, Afganestan have lost their children to Drone strikers and other actions taken by Americans.

According to USA records. Official American documents that is, since 2004. There has been 175 children, 535 civilian and 2400 "other group" dead in ONLY the drone strikes. And only the dead. The real number is probably 5-10 times the official numbers. "Other" definition is sometimes as loose as a teenage male.
But even with their own numbers that is 70 civilian and children dead EVERY YEAR. Which is about 6 civilian and children dead EVERY MONTH for the past 10 years and JUST from drones.
So if this bombing w 2-4 dead is done by Muslims the fact that "civilians and children" were killed is not an issue to them. They get an incident like this EVERY WEEK for the past 10 years just from drones.

That is why next time you USA is going to war they should think about the consequences like Ron Paul talks about. It's in their own fucking CIA reports.



Yeah I mean obviously there is going to be consequences to our actions, although I still dont regret them considering the context in which they were conducted. I.E. the difference between "casualty of war" and "terrorism". We get to play the casualty card because our target is not civilains, that is an incidental side-effect due to the fact that our targets choose to hide themselves in civilian populated areas. The belief was that we would never attack civilians to destroy a target, so they thought they were safe. America was "too good" for that. Well guess what you're wrong, and we'll blow up a school if it means taking out 1 bad guy in it. Looks like the "bad guys" dont really care though and continue to hide out in neighborhoods and such rather than securing themselves in their own make-shift bases (tents, caves, hole in the ground, whatever. You want to conduct operations from your bedroom then you're responsible for the damage inflicted when someone attacks you).

Terrorism on the other hand is all about attacking civilians. The target is not meant to be strategic, it's meant to be psychological. For some reason terrorists believe that if they blow up enough civilians they will emotionally cripple their opponents and somehow establish victory. Look at what they're doing to themselves every day "over there". An attack doesnt even make headlines unless it kills at least 20 children. Is it working? I dunno maybe. But they'll never achieve that level of success here, so they are simply wasting their time and becoming a "nuisance" to the USA for lack of a better term. I mean clearly it's ridiculous to think killing 10-100 American civilians per year is going to have any tangible effect whatsoever. In fact all youre doing is guaranteeing escalated retaliation in return, in the form of massive drone strikes. Something like this happens and even the tree huggers start saying "nuke em all". I guess their lack of news and media information doesnt portray this so they continue to think pissing us off with shitty terrorist attacks every now and then is going to somehow turn the tides in their favor.

Anyway when it comes down to it, do I approve of drone strikes? Not really, but not because I dont want civilian casualties, but because I simply think it's ineffective. You kill some supposed terrorist mastermind and he just gets replaced by another. It's not like what these guys are doing is that sophisticated and cant be easily replicated by someone else. They're using old munitions rigged with simplistic detonators and going on suicide runs. Whoopdie do, you can teach anybody to do that, so we cant kill them all and "end terrorism". It's as futile as their attempts to squash us with equally pathetic attacks. The only reason we'll win is because we have the resources to spread our influence. The arabs have further invited us into their world, and I guarantee 50 years from now our military influence will have propagated into starbucks and mcdonalds in the streets of Pakistan, which is exactly what they dont want. We're westernizing the muslim world through war.

bye now 

brambolius   Netherlands. Apr 16 2013 12:31. Posts 1708


  On April 16 2013 10:03 RaiNKhAN wrote:
just 3 pages? we are desensitized



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Gnarly   United States. Apr 16 2013 16:35. Posts 1723

Reports of explosion from package at thrift store in Atlanta MOTHER FUCKING GEORGIA

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story...3f5e1e801c/GA--Thrift-Store-Explosion

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 16 2013 18:35. Posts 1723

https://twitter.com/cnnbrk


  Envelope containing #ricin was addressed to U.S. senator, though we don't know which one. http://www.cnn.com

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austrian oak   Belgium. Apr 16 2013 19:57. Posts 520

Fuck my visa application i guess. Thank you redneck assailant

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Liquid`Drone   Norway. Apr 16 2013 20:40. Posts 3096


  On April 16 2013 10:17 NewbSaibot wrote:
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Yeah I mean obviously there is going to be consequences to our actions, although I still dont regret them considering the context in which they were conducted. I.E. the difference between "casualty of war" and "terrorism". We get to play the casualty card because our target is not civilains, that is an incidental side-effect due to the fact that our targets choose to hide themselves in civilian populated areas. The belief was that we would never attack civilians to destroy a target, so they thought they were safe. America was "too good" for that. Well guess what you're wrong, and we'll blow up a school if it means taking out 1 bad guy in it. Looks like the "bad guys" dont really care though and continue to hide out in neighborhoods and such rather than securing themselves in their own make-shift bases (tents, caves, hole in the ground, whatever. You want to conduct operations from your bedroom then you're responsible for the damage inflicted when someone attacks you).

Terrorism on the other hand is all about attacking civilians. The target is not meant to be strategic, it's meant to be psychological. For some reason terrorists believe that if they blow up enough civilians they will emotionally cripple their opponents and somehow establish victory. Look at what they're doing to themselves every day "over there". An attack doesnt even make headlines unless it kills at least 20 children. Is it working? I dunno maybe. But they'll never achieve that level of success here, so they are simply wasting their time and becoming a "nuisance" to the USA for lack of a better term. I mean clearly it's ridiculous to think killing 10-100 American civilians per year is going to have any tangible effect whatsoever. In fact all youre doing is guaranteeing escalated retaliation in return, in the form of massive drone strikes. Something like this happens and even the tree huggers start saying "nuke em all". I guess their lack of news and media information doesnt portray this so they continue to think pissing us off with shitty terrorist attacks every now and then is going to somehow turn the tides in their favor.

Anyway when it comes down to it, do I approve of drone strikes? Not really, but not because I dont want civilian casualties, but because I simply think it's ineffective. You kill some supposed terrorist mastermind and he just gets replaced by another. It's not like what these guys are doing is that sophisticated and cant be easily replicated by someone else. They're using old munitions rigged with simplistic detonators and going on suicide runs. Whoopdie do, you can teach anybody to do that, so we cant kill them all and "end terrorism". It's as futile as their attempts to squash us with equally pathetic attacks. The only reason we'll win is because we have the resources to spread our influence. The arabs have further invited us into their world, and I guarantee 50 years from now our military influence will have propagated into starbucks and mcdonalds in the streets of Pakistan, which is exactly what they dont want. We're westernizing the muslim world through war.


terrorists are people. they often have families that they provide for. terrorist leaders are often patriarchs with bigger families.they don't necessarily have the means to build an underground cave complex they can go out to hide in while coming up with their next evil plots. you're not fighting against the legion of doom.

like, I know that you're not defending drone strikes. but you are still really guilty of this whole.. idea that terrorists are just so evil that they're willing to use children and civilians whom are often friends or family as sacrifices to get political gains and understanding for their desire to kill civilians on their own? I mean what?

I think a much more precise way of looking at it is this; terrorists also consider their civilian targets collateral damage. it's just that their goal isn't to kill some specific or unspecific high ranking military official, but to create fear which influences further policy from the country they are targeting. in either case it's equally futile, because any victim of collateral damage will completely disregard that the culprit considers its an unfortunate neccessity, and one amazing thing about feelings and actions is that they multiply. hatred leads to more hatred and war leads to more war.

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capaneo   Canada. Apr 17 2013 04:06. Posts 8465

"terrorists are people. they often have families that they provide for. you're not fighting against the legion of doom."

That is sooo true, Im gonna steal that one and probably use it in the future.

In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber 

Gnarly   United States. Apr 17 2013 08:35. Posts 1723

http://www.salon.com/2013/04/16/lets_..._marathon_bomber_is_a_white_american/

I can't tell if the guy is serious or just writing for the views...

Diversify or fossilize! 

TTomass   United States. Apr 17 2013 10:25. Posts 84

I was running on the treadmile yesterday, training for a marathon, and in the middle of my run in my imagination suddenly my treadmile exploded. I got scared maybe I'm going to get bombed on this treadmile. Then I realized there's no children around, so I'm safe.


capaneo   Canada. Apr 17 2013 13:09. Posts 8465


  On April 17 2013 07:35 Gnarly wrote:
http://www.salon.com/2013/04/16/lets_..._marathon_bomber_is_a_white_american/

I can't tell if the guy is serious or just writing for the views...



He is on the spot. Cause if the guy is a Syrian, you have another great war to look forward to. W trillions of dollars in spending and a huge number of casualties (including women and children) leading to more terrorist.

In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber 

Gnarly   United States. Apr 17 2013 16:31. Posts 1723


  On April 17 2013 12:09 capaneo wrote:
Show nested quote +



He is on the spot. Cause if the guy is a Syrian, you have another great war to look forward to. W trillions of dollars in spending and a huge number of casualties (including women and children) leading to more terrorist.


So, you want it to be a white person, as well?

Diversify or fossilize! 

TTomass   United States. Apr 17 2013 17:30. Posts 84

click http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3txm3l/

 Last edit: 17/04/2013 18:04

NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 17 2013 18:07. Posts 4952


  On April 17 2013 16:30 TTomass wrote:
click http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3txm3l/

This is as stupid as saying "26 people die of natural causes today, but 26 children get slaughtered in a school and OMG".

bye now 

Baalim   Mexico. Apr 17 2013 18:33. Posts 34312


  On April 15 2013 17:43 Gnarly wrote:
Show nested quote +



Americans care about Americans.
Iraqis care about Iraqis.


And this is why the world is fucked up, because fools thinks in terms of religion, nations and races and that's how the cynics make them to kill each other.

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Baalim   Mexico. Apr 17 2013 18:51. Posts 34312


  On April 17 2013 17:07 NewbSaibot wrote:
Show nested quote +

This is as stupid as saying "26 people die of natural causes today, but 26 children get slaughtered in a school and OMG".


No its not dumbass, kids in iraq didn't die of natural causes, they died becaues a foreign country invaded them, oh yeah liberated them right.


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tapatapaz   Brasil. Apr 17 2013 18:53. Posts 1279

the only incentive powerful enough to make the whole world to think as One is a common threat. i suggest it could be Thinking Biases

And what does self awareness have to do with anything you retard? srsly stfu. - baal 

Gnarly   United States. Apr 17 2013 19:57. Posts 1723


  On April 17 2013 17:51 Baalim wrote:
Show nested quote +



No its not dumbass, kids in iraq didn't die of natural causes, they died becaues a foreign country invaded them, oh yeah liberated them right.





There's also the suicide bombings, too...

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HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Apr 17 2013 20:08. Posts 10896


  On April 17 2013 18:57 Gnarly wrote:
Show nested quote +



There's also the suicide bombings, too...


na man its because of the us, iraq iran etc etc, they dont use to kill each others everyday before 9/11
(lol)


Gnarly   United States. Apr 17 2013 20:33. Posts 1723


  On April 17 2013 19:08 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:
Show nested quote +


na man its because of the us, iraq iran etc etc, they dont use to kill each others everyday before 9/11
(lol)



I can't tell if you're being serious or not. Suicide bombings got media attention in the 80s, man.

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alankenau19   . Apr 17 2013 22:52. Posts 18

link i found with all the possible suspects.. interesting
http://www.infowars.com/boston-bombing-culprits-found/


Gnarly   United States. Apr 17 2013 23:38. Posts 1723

WEST, TEXAS REFINERY EXPLOSION VERY FUCKING MASSIVE AND POSSIBLE CHEMICAL EXPLOSION COMING UP
LOUISIANA EXPLOSION NEAR WAL-MART

Fuck, so much going on with these explosions.

Diversify or fossilize! 

whamm!   Albania. Apr 17 2013 23:55. Posts 11625

^^ yesterday I read about 1 explosion in Atlanta but seemed like a grocery clerk died and nobody injured. did not get much coverage


Gnarly   United States. Apr 17 2013 23:59. Posts 1723


  On April 17 2013 22:55 whamm! wrote:
^^ yesterday I read about 1 explosion in Atlanta but seemed like a grocery clerk died and nobody injured. did not get much coverage



Yeah, you can read my post about how some conspiracy people were saying there was going to be one in ATL the day before. Minor coverage, but I thought the guy had only minor injuries? Sucks if he died.

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Garfed   Malta. Apr 18 2013 10:00. Posts 4818

Video in HD, stabilizied:


TTomass   United States. Apr 18 2013 18:10. Posts 84

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/report-boston-investigators-may-release-photos-bombing-suspects-124108345.html

photos released of suspects
horrible photos dont know how they are going to catch them off these


HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Apr 18 2013 19:29. Posts 10896


  On April 17 2013 19:33 Gnarly wrote:
Show nested quote +



I can't tell if you're being serious or not. Suicide bombings got media attention in the 80s, man.


its what i mean, they have been killing each others for YEARSSSSSS way before 9/11
so putting hte death of children on usa is retarded ;/


nolan   Ireland. Apr 18 2013 21:53. Posts 6205


  On April 18 2013 17:10 TTomass wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/report-boston-investigators-may-release-photos-bombing-suspects-124108345.html

photos released of suspects
horrible photos dont know how they are going to catch them off these



Rumor around that the FBI has the cell phone records and believes they have the phone records of the suspects.

If it's true I assume it's a matter of time.

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Apr 18 2013 23:59. Posts 5365

shooting at MIT

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2013/04/201341933337266189.html

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beings 

Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 00:45. Posts 1723

SHOOTING AT MIT ONE COP DEAD CONFIRMED MORE SHOTS BEING FIRED

IM HEARING CHATTER OF SHOOTERS ON TOP OF HARVARD AS WELL

WHAT THE FUCK

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 00:48. Posts 1723

http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/6254/web

WATERTOWN SHOTS FIRED

Area related

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 00:48. Posts 1723

POSSIBLE EXPLOSIONS WHAT THE FUCK

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 00:50. Posts 1723

GRENADES ARE BEING USED
EXPLOSIVES CONFIRMED
MORE SHOTS BEING FIRED

NO FUCKING JOKE

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 00:50. Posts 1723

SHIT IS GOING DOWN HOLY FUCKING SHIT

Diversify or fossilize! 

Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 00:52. Posts 1723

POLICE TRUCK HAS BEEN STOLEN

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 00:54. Posts 1723

COAST GUARD ON THE WAY

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 00:59. Posts 1723

ALL UNITS RETREAT

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 01:05. Posts 1723

CELL PHONES BEING POWERED DOWN

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 01:05. Posts 1723

MULTIPLE LOCATIONS OF DEVICES

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 01:11. Posts 1723

OFFICER MISSING

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 01:12. Posts 1723

SUSPECTS IN CUSTODY
POSSIBLE SUSPECTS STILL AT LARGE

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 01:16. Posts 1723

Fuck I think they switched channels...

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 01:25. Posts 1723

May not have second suspect in custody

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 01:31. Posts 1723

Scanner is not loading due to extremely heavy traffic.

I'm reading more posts of active shooters, may not have any suspects tied to the main event, more explosions at havard quad.

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Stim_Abuser   United States. Apr 19 2013 01:44. Posts 7499

I thought you were trolling, holy shit.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

Stim_Abuser   United States. Apr 19 2013 01:45. Posts 7499

Apparently they fit the description of the bombers.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

Stim_Abuser   United States. Apr 19 2013 01:46. Posts 7499

New link for scanner.

tunein.com/radio/Boston-Police-Fire-and-EMS-Scanner-s146109/

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 01:51. Posts 1723

CODE BLACK ?

Does anyone know what code black means?

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 01:52. Posts 1723

Code black being posted as bomb threat, code black being posted at a hospital.

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 01:59. Posts 1723

SUSPECT IN CUSTODY LET GO
REPORTS OF SUSPECT IN CUSTODY LET GO

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Svenman87   United States. Apr 19 2013 02:06. Posts 4636

im watching the live video of this news site
http://livewire.wcvb.com/Event/117th_Running_of_Boston_Marathon

also watching these twitters for updates
https://twitter.com/CIApressoffice
https://twitter.com/YourAnonNews
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Watertown&src=tren


Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 02:15. Posts 1723

MORE SHOTS FIRED
unconfirmed

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 02:16. Posts 1723

Reports of San Fransisco Airport being evacuated in unrelated news. (hopefully unrelated)

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 02:18. Posts 1723

LONG GUNS CONFIRMED

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Svenman87   United States. Apr 19 2013 02:19. Posts 4636


  On April 19 2013 01:16 Gnarly wrote:
Reports of San Fransisco Airport being evacuated in unrelated news. (hopefully unrelated)



was a small fire that was put out.


Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 02:21. Posts 1723

SOMEONE HIT BY CAR

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whamm!   Albania. Apr 19 2013 02:23. Posts 11625

Any twitter feeds we can follow?


Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 02:24. Posts 1723

15 SHOTS

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 02:25. Posts 1723

#breaking
Suv
MIT
Boston
Watertown

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Svenman87   United States. Apr 19 2013 02:26. Posts 4636

2:24am 15 shots fired at Aberdeen and Mt Auburn.


whamm!   Albania. Apr 19 2013 02:26. Posts 11625

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/20/us/...massachusetts-standoff.html?_r=3&


Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 02:27. Posts 1723

Reports of bombing suspect in custody

https://twitter.com/BostonGlobe

Diversify or fossilize!Last edit: 19/04/2013 02:27

Stim_Abuser   United States. Apr 19 2013 02:27. Posts 7499

The Boston Globe ‏@BostonGlobe 1m

Official: Marathon bombing suspect in custody, another remains on the loose.

Official boston globe twitter.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

Svenman87   United States. Apr 19 2013 02:27. Posts 4636

Andrew Kitzenberg ‏@AKitz 3m
Bullet hole through our wall and the chair #mitshooting #mit #boston pic.twitter.com/1MyuMduM7T


fuck... makes me want to get off the computer :O


Svenman87   United States. Apr 19 2013 02:29. Posts 4636

2:25am "I'm at Aberdeen and Mt Auburn, I don't see anything here."


Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 02:29. Posts 1723


  On April 19 2013 01:27 Svenman87 wrote:
Andrew Kitzenberg ‏@AKitz 3m
Bullet hole through our wall and the chair #mitshooting #mit #boston pic.twitter.com/1MyuMduM7T


fuck... makes me want to get off the computer :O



Holy shit...

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 02:34. Posts 1723

SUSPECT BEING REPORTED FOR DEAD
OTHER AT LARGE

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 02:45. Posts 1723

REPORTS OF 2 SUSPECTS BEING ACCOUNTED FOR

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 02:47. Posts 1723

Okay, im getting sleepy. Heading to bed, so no more reports from me.

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Svenman87   United States. Apr 19 2013 02:53. Posts 4636

2:46am Cambridge PD checking out Arsenal St in Watertown. White male with blue jeans.
Newtown PD: "Looking for the party in the white hat in the photos [from the Marathon explosions suspects?]. From Watertown."


Svenman87   United States. Apr 19 2013 02:54. Posts 4636


Svenman87   United States. Apr 19 2013 02:56. Posts 4636

police say watertown and MIT are related


Svenman87   United States. Apr 19 2013 03:03. Posts 4636

 Last edit: 19/04/2013 14:24

Svenman87   United States. Apr 19 2013 03:09. Posts 4636

Police heard saying suspect #1 is dead - can't confirm i guess

 Last edit: 19/04/2013 03:20

Svenman87   United States. Apr 19 2013 03:11. Posts 4636

NBC News: Sources say pressure cooker was found at the scene in #BostonMarathon #WaterTown #MITshooting

 Last edit: 19/04/2013 03:25

Svenman87   United States. Apr 19 2013 03:34. Posts 4636


Svenman87   United States. Apr 19 2013 03:37. Posts 4636

MIT,Watertown, and Boston Marathon all connected
Suspect #1 (black hat) is dead
Suspect #2 Sunil Tripathi (white hat) still on the loose

Confirmed from law enforcement


Svenman87   United States. Apr 19 2013 03:42. Posts 4636

 Last edit: 19/04/2013 14:24

Svenman87   United States. Apr 19 2013 03:50. Posts 4636

controlled detonation by law enforcement to clear some of the ied's.

3:53am Watertown receiving reports of motion sensors tripping inside building

 Last edit: 19/04/2013 06:10

Svenman87   United States. Apr 19 2013 06:18. Posts 4636

sounds like they just got the 2nd guy in custody now - can finally go to bed. >_<

or not? gah need sleep. night lp

 Last edit: 19/04/2013 06:30

Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 07:04. Posts 1723

SUSPECTS ARE CHECHEN BROTHERS
PIPEBOMB DETONATED MINUTES AGO
SUSPECT #2 STILL ON THE LOOSE

Diversify or fossilize! 

Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 07:12. Posts 1723

More detonations.

This fucking guy. How the fuck can someone evade hundreds if not thousands of units for hours and keep blowing shit up.

Diversify or fossilize! 

whamm!   Albania. Apr 19 2013 10:33. Posts 11625

Bombers are from Czech republic


brambolius   Netherlands. Apr 19 2013 10:37. Posts 1708

Chechnya does have a rather "impressive" history of guerilla warfare

Heat......EXTEND 

Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 13:40. Posts 1723


  On April 19 2013 09:33 whamm! wrote:
Bombers are from Czech republic



Chechen isn't Czech.

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Highcard   Canada. Apr 19 2013 14:02. Posts 5428

this thread lacks a lot of the details, so I will post them for you.

http://fastlane.grasswire.com/

http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments...ve_boston_update_thread_unofficial_5/

http://reddit-stream.com/comments/1coqwo/

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ma-rt-9-window-cam

http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1coqwo/live_boston_update_thread_part_5/


link to all news sites with live streams

http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments...on_update_thread_unofficial_5/c9ik7n1

suspect 2

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2...ons-heard-as-boston-manhunt-continues







https://twitter.com/J_tsar





http://www.boston.com/video/viral_pag...QyzUCo3g3L-Af&bctid=2312754444001

http://vk.com/id160300242


suspect 1 dead

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com...;cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us




have what is most likely the body but not don't believe it's relevant to post gore, suspect 1 already been confirmed deceased. If you most see it, it's in the thread 5 1coqwo

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/na...rlan-tsarnaev-boston-bombing/2096189/


I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the timeLast edit: 19/04/2013 16:32

Svenman87   United States. Apr 19 2013 14:27. Posts 4636

well ofc not a ton of details, I was posting police chatter and reddit updates as well as twitter updates with pics.


Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 14:49. Posts 1723

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ma-rt-9-window-cam

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whamm!   Albania. Apr 19 2013 17:28. Posts 11625

5am here they got the fker I think.


TTomass   United States. Apr 19 2013 17:34. Posts 84


  On April 19 2013 16:28 whamm! wrote:
5am here they got the fker I think.



How you know he not take it in the ass? sexist comment whamm!, you homophobe?

 Last edit: 19/04/2013 17:35

dogmeat   Czech Republic. Apr 19 2013 18:10. Posts 6374

muslim scum

ban baal 

Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 19:44. Posts 1723

They are planning to light up the boat... Just like with Dorner.

Diversify or fossilize! 

TTomass   United States. Apr 19 2013 19:50. Posts 84

They better get him alive, but not at the risk of more life.
He's got to be running out of bullets.

 Last edit: 19/04/2013 19:51

Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 20:00. Posts 1723


  On April 19 2013 18:50 TTomass wrote:
They better get him alive, but not at the risk of more life.
He's got to be running out of bullets.



There's reports he has a suicide vest, so I'm 99% sure he will be killed even if he tried to surrender.

Diversify or fossilize! 

HaiVan   Bulgaria. Apr 19 2013 20:50. Posts 2083

They got him.

Poker chobo. 

NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 19 2013 22:11. Posts 4952

Those dumb cocksuckers wouldnt even know how to build a suicide vest. Their bombs were shitty and n00b, they hung out in town after their assault, they robbed a 7-11, fucking amateurs. I'm glad he got caught, I want him to spend the rest of his life in jail so he can think about it, and watch Boston heal & celebrate each anniversary.

bye nowLast edit: 19/04/2013 22:21

Gnarly   United States. Apr 19 2013 22:27. Posts 1723


  On April 19 2013 21:11 NewbSaibot wrote:
Those dumb cocksuckers wouldnt even know how to build a suicide vest. Their bombs were shitty and n00b, they hung out in town after their assault, they robbed a 7-11, fucking amateurs. I'm glad he got caught, I want him to spend the rest of his life in jail so he can think about it, and watch Boston heal & celebrate each anniversary.



Why don't you show them how it's done?

I'd rather him be dead than alive, though.

Diversify or fossilize! 

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 19 2013 22:54. Posts 13257


  On April 19 2013 21:27 Gnarly wrote:
Show nested quote +



Why don't you show them how it's done?

I'd rather him be dead than alive, though.


Yeah, for real.

For how much shit America has started over the years, it's amazing how big of a pussy the government is. Stupid corporations want people locked up so they can make money, when the average person would rather see a killer/rapist/terrorist/etc. shot and killed on site.

Rekrul is a newb 

whamm!   Albania. Apr 19 2013 23:35. Posts 11625

Go America. Destroy other countries who hate you. My life won't change a bit without those fuckers (I know how to ride a bicycle)
Keep making movies, pornos and cool shit


palak   United States. Apr 20 2013 00:34. Posts 4601

From reddit

dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium 

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 20 2013 00:58. Posts 13257


  On April 19 2013 13:02 Highcard wrote:



+ Show Spoiler +

Rekrul is a newb 

Gnarly   United States. Apr 21 2013 02:27. Posts 1723

Sleeper cell: confirmed

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-ne...bombers-fbi-hunting-12-strong-1844844

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TTomass   United States. Apr 21 2013 13:56. Posts 84


  On April 19 2013 21:27 Gnarly wrote:
Show nested quote +



Why don't you show them how it's done?

I'd rather him be dead than alive, though.


Its much better to get him alive:
1 why he did it (thats important to stop future attacks)
2 sell out his terrorist cell
He's enemy combatant part of terrorist cell, that means they have the right to torture for information.


SleepyHead   . Apr 21 2013 15:27. Posts 881


  On April 21 2013 01:27 Gnarly wrote:
Sleeper cell: confirmed

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-ne...bombers-fbi-hunting-12-strong-1844844


Confirmed just like the 70 dead in the Texas explosion and the giant meteor hurtling towards earth

Dude you some social darwinist ideas that they are giving hitlers ghost a boner - Baal 

Gnarly   United States. Apr 21 2013 15:44. Posts 1723


  On April 21 2013 14:27 SleepyHead wrote:
Show nested quote +


Confirmed just like the 70 dead in the Texas explosion and the giant meteor hurtling towards earth


http://pastebin.com/qubb1q9y

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blackjacki2   United States. Apr 21 2013 18:03. Posts 2582


  On April 21 2013 14:44 Gnarly wrote:
Show nested quote +



http://pastebin.com/qubb1q9y



do you really believe any of those to be reliable sources?


Gnarly   United States. Apr 21 2013 19:12. Posts 1723


  On April 21 2013 17:03 blackjacki2 wrote:
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do you really believe any of those to be reliable sources?



Do you really believe any media is reliable? During the manhunt, each major media corporation kept fucking up, naming suspects who weren't actually suspects, having to backtrack over and over again. Then there's the fact that the big three get funded for reporting certain stories while ignoring other ones.

Diversify or fossilize! 

blackjacki2   United States. Apr 21 2013 20:04. Posts 2582


  On April 21 2013 18:12 Gnarly wrote:
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Do you really believe any media is reliable?



I'm not the one saying "Confirmed" and linking to tabloids.


Gnarly   United States. Apr 21 2013 20:22. Posts 1723


  On April 21 2013 19:04 blackjacki2 wrote:
Show nested quote +



I'm not the one saying "Confirmed" and linking to tabloids.




I'm guessing you watch fox news.

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SleepyHead   . Apr 21 2013 20:58. Posts 881

lol Fox news is a step up from every one of the garbage links you have posted on this forum

Dude you some social darwinist ideas that they are giving hitlers ghost a boner - Baal 

Gnarly   United States. Apr 21 2013 21:00. Posts 1723


  On April 21 2013 19:58 SleepyHead wrote:
lol Fox news is a step up from every one of the garbage links you have posted on this forum



Fox is total garbage. If you watch that shit, I feel sorry for you.

Diversify or fossilize! 

TTomass   United States. Apr 21 2013 21:18. Posts 84


  On April 21 2013 20:00 Gnarly wrote:
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Fox is total garbage. If you watch that shit, I feel sorry for you.

You're not being fair to fox


Gnarly   United States. Apr 21 2013 21:35. Posts 1723


  On April 21 2013 20:18 TTomass wrote:
Show nested quote +


You're not being fair to fox



I actually laughed at that one.

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TTomass   United States. Apr 22 2013 00:00. Posts 84


  On April 21 2013 20:35 Gnarly wrote:
Show nested quote +



I actually laughed at that one.



Who do you get the news from then?


blackjacki2   United States. Apr 22 2013 00:09. Posts 2582


  On April 21 2013 19:22 Gnarly wrote:
Show nested quote +



I'm guessing you watch fox news.



Judging by your eagerness to accept the Daily Mirror as a reliable source I'm guessing that you're the one that watches Fox News.


SleepyHead   . Apr 22 2013 00:17. Posts 881


  On April 21 2013 23:00 TTomass wrote:
Show nested quote +



Who do you get the news from then?


He gets his news from a balanced selection of sources.

Dude you some social darwinist ideas that they are giving hitlers ghost a boner - Baal 

dogmeat   Czech Republic. Apr 22 2013 00:23. Posts 6374

ban baal 

Gnarly   United States. Apr 22 2013 04:53. Posts 1723

I get my news from as many sources as possible. Funny to see which ones copy paste each other.

What do you think would happen if the giants reported that there was a sleeper cell in the States? Do you think it would be a good idea? Do you think people would just go about their normal every day lives? Or, do you think panic would ensue, or vigilantes going about trying to find the cell?

Reddit and twitter are already getting shit for their "witch hunt." I bet the "witches" didn't like that, the ones who weren't the bombers...

Diversify or fossilize! 

Gnarly   United States. Apr 25 2013 12:35. Posts 1723

How does a man shoot himself in the throat without a gun? First, he was armed and shot at the police which initiated a shootout, now, as it seems, he was never armed in the boat.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic...count-firefight-shooting-himself.html

So much for relying on big media for the truth.

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SleepyHead   . Apr 25 2013 13:41. Posts 881

Confirmed. Thanks for delivering the fair and balanced facts to us once again.

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 25 2013 13:55. Posts 1723


  On April 25 2013 12:41 SleepyHead wrote:
Confirmed. Thanks for delivering the fair and balanced facts to us once again.



http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/na...thon-bombing-suspect-unarmed/2111145/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/n...d18-11e2-a8b9-2a63d75b5459_story.html

http://www.presstv.ir/usdetail/300195.html

http://www.wtae.com/news/national/Sus...81152/19886952/-/el9hnuz/-/index.html

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/25/...described-terror-plot-before-miranda/

http://www.lohud.com/usatoday/article/2111145

Now for the articles stating self-inflicted wound:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/22/...horities-wait-to-interrogate-suspect/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/na...on-bombings-suspect-marathon/2100733/

http://www.lohud.com/usatoday/article/2100733

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime...jury-self-inflicted-article-1.1323323


Again, how can you shoot yourself without a gun? How can there not be a trail of blood from a gunshot wound to the neck if you shot yourself before getting to the boat?

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SleepyHead   . Apr 25 2013 14:36. Posts 881

No need for more evidence, you have already confirmed it.

Dude you some social darwinist ideas that they are giving hitlers ghost a boner - Baal 

brambolius   Netherlands. Apr 25 2013 14:53. Posts 1708

We should make bets on when the actual factual story comes out and what's it gonna be .

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jubei12   Peru. Apr 25 2013 14:56. Posts 19

there is so much material and pictures on internet that its quite hard to belive the official story ...

and you are pasting fox news links lool

 Last edit: 25/04/2013 14:56

Gnarly   United States. Apr 25 2013 15:22. Posts 1723


  On April 25 2013 13:56 jubei12 wrote:
there is so much material and pictures on internet that its quite hard to belive the official story ...

and you are pasting fox news links lool




To show why I believe that anyone who actually takes them serious is fucking retarded.

There are no facts in this movie, only dreams.

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nolan   Ireland. Apr 26 2013 07:08. Posts 6205

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Waltham_murders

Kind of interesting.

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NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 26 2013 10:55. Posts 4952

What are you going on about Gnarly? Who gives a shit whether he was shot in the neck or not, or whether it was self-inflicted. You're acting like this trivial piece of information is leading to some grand scheme. Do you think he's innocent or something? Do you think the bombs placed were an inside job? I mean, whats your point?

bye nowLast edit: 26/04/2013 10:55

Gnarly   United States. Apr 26 2013 15:29. Posts 1723


  On April 26 2013 09:55 NewbSaibot wrote:
What are you going on about Gnarly? Who gives a shit whether he was shot in the neck or not, or whether it was self-inflicted. You're acting like this trivial piece of information is leading to some grand scheme. Do you think he's innocent or something? Do you think the bombs placed were an inside job? I mean, whats your point?



Who gives a shit that hundreds of homes were searched without a warrant, amiright? Sure, one cop may have brought two gallons of milk to a house, but still warrentless searches are against the constitution.

If he was shot through the neck, while unarmed, that means the police fucked up and they need to face the consequences, otherwise, they'll just keep doing shit like that. "Oh, you're surrendering? GET SHOT MOTHER FUCKER!" That's not trivial, because that's ILLEGAL. Unless you think the police department is above the law, but it's still ILLEGAL. It doesn't matter if he's guilty or innocent, you read the fucking miranda rights and you don't shoot up the person especially when they have surrendered. He was eventually read his miranda rights, but days after the fact.

Enemy combatant status my fucking ass.

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taco   Iceland. Apr 26 2013 16:41. Posts 1793


  On April 26 2013 14:29 Gnarly wrote:
Show nested quote +



Who gives a shit that hundreds of homes were searched without a warrant, amiright? Sure, one cop may have brought two gallons of milk to a house, but still warrentless searches are against the constitution.


>Implying anyone should give a fuck
>Implying that it wouldn't be a problem with the constitution, not with the action itself, if police couldn't search homes in this case
>Implying it shouldn't just be fruit of the poisonous tree if the police found something and everyone would be fine and not blown up by bombs


Gnarly   United States. Apr 26 2013 18:00. Posts 1723

You do realize that the meme arrow is an implication, right?

>sitting at home
>enjoying muh tv and breakfast
>BANG BANG BANG on the door
>POLICE OPEN UP NOW
>shit my pants
>spill my cereal all over the place
>hesitantly open up door
>AR-15 pointed at my face
>WE NEED TO SEARCH THE PREMISES RIGHT NOW
>b-but you don't ha-
>get grabbed by officer and thrown onto my porch
>a line of officers rush into my home

Did you see some of the videos of the searches? Do you really feel comfortable with a rifle being trained on you? Who knows if you move too fast that you won't get shot... Scare an officer and you might get shot. Look at an officer wrong and you might get shot. Enemy combatant status, do you know what the means?

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NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 26 2013 19:01. Posts 4952

You dont think the police were justified in their actions given the circumstances?

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SleepyHead   . Apr 26 2013 19:02. Posts 881

If what you're describing is true (it's probably not because nothing that you say is true) then that is bullshit. I would be happy to comply with the police in that situation but they don't have the right to force their way in to a home without a warrant or probable cause or whatever.

Dude you some social darwinist ideas that they are giving hitlers ghost a boner - Baal 

brambolius   Netherlands. Apr 26 2013 20:46. Posts 1708

There are video's of this stuff going on. They kinda give off a half-life 2 vibe

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ichiro   Netherlands. Apr 26 2013 21:29. Posts 122



is that an explosion at 1:44? or did they shoot something at the boat?


NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 26 2013 21:52. Posts 4952

Those are flash bangs

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 26 2013 22:32. Posts 1723



>BANG BANG BANG
>GET YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR!!

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NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 26 2013 22:41. Posts 4952


  On April 26 2013 21:32 Gnarly wrote:


>BANG BANG BANG
>GET YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR!!

You're a fucking faggot dude. Wtf do you expect them to do, do you realize wtf just happened? I think apprehending the terrorists was everyone's priority. I would welcome a swat raid into my home in the moments after this horrendous event to help aid law enforcement in his capture. They clearly had the right strategy since the guy was hiding in someones boat on their personal property. They did an excellent job, found him in record time, and did exactly what they were supposed to do, which is make sure these little cockbags dont get to do it again.

I also love how you try to sensationalize what happened with your "BANG BANG BANG" crap. They gently knocked on a flimsy ass glass door which they could have easily broken, waited for someone to answer, and of course are going to tell him to get his fucking hands in the air. If they were walking around using a battering ram busting down doors and tackling people then I'd have a problem. If they were raiding peoples homes a month from now then I'd have a problem. If they were tazing residents the moment they open their doors then I'd have a problem. But they conducted themselves very well especially considering the severity of the issue.

You act like they were after some highschoolers weed money abusing their authority. They were on the hunt for a couple of maniac jihadi terrorists. This was as important as the hunt of Osama all over again.

bye nowLast edit: 26/04/2013 22:52

Gnarly   United States. Apr 27 2013 00:02. Posts 1723

>I'm a faggot for wanting a warrant and constitutional rights
>I would need the help of the SWAT team to get rid of a terrorist in my home
>I would be able to answer the door if there was a terrorist in my home

25k fucking thousands units dude, 25000! For one guy! Do you know who's going to pick up THAT tab? The taxpayers. Seems like they did a really good fucking job needing the hordes of men just to find someone who was actually found by a resident only when they let the residents leave their homes on their own terms. This whole incident just showed how much of a fucking joke the police, swat, FBI, and national guard is.

>gently knock

Sensationalizing much, no? Did you happen to see the wood on that door?

Did they have a warrant for this search? No, they didn't, and do you know what means? It was an unconstitutional search.

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nerdonpoker   . Apr 27 2013 00:16. Posts 414

Yah what he said. This whole thing is fishy.


NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 27 2013 00:49. Posts 4952

You're an idiot. The severity of this situation called for warrantless searches. There might as well have been anthrax floating in the air. I suppose you would have preferred the police left post it notes on everyones door to hold their breath. I love how you feel you're fuckin GI Joe and dont need anybody's help to get rid of a terrorist in your home. I can clearly see how you have considered all the angles in which a circumstance like this might unfold, such as he has a fucking gun, or a bomb, or both. Let me guess, you would have totally kicked all of Al Qaeda's ass during 9/11 if you were on that plane, aint nobody gonna punk you right son? Shiiieeeettt, motha fuckas dont know how they fuckin wit. As for answering the door, assuming our terrorist friend has seen at least one good action movie, what the fuck happens when you *dont* answer the door. The cops get highly suspicious right? It doesnt exactly serve a suicide bomber well to have to detonate early without knowing that this is a raid vs your standard questionnaire. As for "seeing the wood on the door"; the fuck you talking about? That was a glass fucking door, or a door with a very large section of glass built into it. Do you not see the shimmering reflection on it? The cops could have easily broken it, but they didnt.

Anyway I can clearly see youre kinda fuckin retarded and going to be another typical tinfoil hat retard who probably thinks 9/11 was an inside job and somehow Sandy Hook is related to the boston massacre. God I wish there was a way I could just block all your posts so that you dont troll bait me into arguing with you. But I'm gonna try to be strong here. No more tears.... shhhh, only dreams now...

bye nowLast edit: 27/04/2013 00:50

Gnarly   United States. Apr 27 2013 01:07. Posts 1723


  There might as well have been anthrax floating in the air.



Stopped reading right there.

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blackjacki2   United States. Apr 27 2013 03:48. Posts 2582

fyi warrantless searches are not automatically against the constitution. There are many circumstances that police can search a home without a warrant and it wouldn't be unconstitutional. For example if they think a suspect ran into a home they are allowed to go into the home to look for him, they don't have to sit outside with their thumbs up their asses while they get a warrant.

The 4th amendment protects us from "unreasonable searches." Good luck finding a judge that thinks it would be unreasonable to search a few homes that a terrorist might be hiding in.


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Apr 27 2013 08:23. Posts 9634

They really released 25k units for the hunt ? :D wow
And yeah under "terrorism" pretext they can go in w/o warrant which is ridiculous and easily abusive


NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 27 2013 13:02. Posts 4952


  On April 27 2013 07:23 Spitfiree wrote:
They really released 25k units for the hunt ? :D wow
And yeah under "terrorism" pretext they can go in w/o warrant which is ridiculous and easily abusive

Name a time when you think this has been abused

bye now 

brambolius   Netherlands. Apr 27 2013 13:05. Posts 1708


  On April 26 2013 23:49 NewbSaibot wrote:
thinks 9/11 was an inside job



Did you just call me a tinfoil hat retard lol.

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ichiro   Netherlands. Apr 27 2013 19:05. Posts 122


  On April 26 2013 20:52 NewbSaibot wrote:
Those are flash bangs



ah ok thanks in 2:03 there is another one right at the cursor of the camera. it made it look as if they were shooting something from the helicopter


 



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