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Gnarly   United States. Apr 16 2013 01:27. Posts 1723 | | |
| | On April 15 2013 23:40 Svenman87 wrote:
took about 30 minutes on my facebook feed before i saw a conspiracy theory.
waiting for LP to turn to that as well. |
I find entertainment in conspiracy theories, so don't take this as me being a tinfoiler, but the current one I have been reading about is linked to Aurora, Sandy Hook, and the Chinese. The Phelps from the sandy hook have the same address as some chinese guys who own a solar company, which is thought of as a front. They own property just miles from the aurora theater, own property in sandy hook and newton, own property in samwsoch or something, it's just miles from boston, and they also own property in atlanta, georgia. The list of properties is in sequential order of the attacks, and Lanza has been linked to the solar company. I don't know if holmes has been linked, but the drugs he's seemingly on has been said to come from the solar company. There was also some guy who did some numbers on the days between the attacks and whatnot and said the next attack will happen on 8/29, which just happens to be my birthday.
I really hope there isn't a next attack, especially on my birthday. |
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capaneo   Canada. Apr 16 2013 01:28. Posts 8465 | | |
Low security and lots of media attention. I actually think it is a perfect target for "terrorizing" activities.
Also the issue of children is a non-issue for people from Middle East. MANY families in Iraw, Yemen, Afganestan have lost their children to Drone strikers and other actions taken by Americans.
According to USA records. Official American documents that is, since 2004. There has been 175 children, 535 civilian and 2400 "other group" dead in ONLY the drone strikes. And only the dead. The real number is probably 5-10 times the official numbers. "Other" definition is sometimes as loose as a teenage male.
But even with their own numbers that is 70 civilian and children dead EVERY YEAR. Which is about 6 civilian and children dead EVERY MONTH for the past 10 years and JUST from drones.
So if this bombing w 2-4 dead is done by Muslims the fact that "civilians and children" were killed is not an issue to them. They get an incident like this EVERY WEEK for the past 10 years just from drones.
That is why next time you USA is going to war they should think about the consequences like Ron Paul talks about. It's in their own fucking CIA reports. |
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Apr 16 2013 02:19. Posts 9634 | | |
Im sorry but those numbers look ridiculously small. Some statistician probably got paid off well to manipulate them that way |
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whamm!   Albania. Apr 16 2013 03:08. Posts 11625 | | |
I'd rather have the Russians and Chinese run the world - that would be so much better? I'd say as the most powerful nation who could've easily made everyone their slaves for the past 80 years has been fairly generous, being the so called "tyrant" that they are.
Try pulling this shit on Russian or Chinese soil and let's see how they deal with Iraq and any other terrorist shithole country. |
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devon06atX   Canada. Apr 16 2013 04:00. Posts 5462 | | |
| | On April 16 2013 02:08 whamm! wrote:
I'd rather have the Russians and Chinese run the world - that would be so much better? I'd say as the most powerful nation who could've easily made everyone their slaves for the past 80 years has been fairly generous, being the so called "tyrant" that they are.
Try pulling this shit on Russian or Chinese soil and let's see how they deal with Iraq and any other terrorist shithole country. |
There's been a couple silly-ass posts in this thread thus far, but you, sir, win the award for the best jack-ass post yet. Please keep up the good work. |
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whamm!   Albania. Apr 16 2013 04:19. Posts 11625 | | | |
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flounder44   United States. Apr 16 2013 06:04. Posts 916 | | |
anyone know if our satellites similar to stuff like google-earth would have live feed of this? we have the technology to do surveilance of the earth afaik but anyone know more about how fed uses it im curious. |
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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Apr 16 2013 06:50. Posts 5365 | | |
| | On April 16 2013 02:08 whamm! wrote:
I'd rather have the Russians and Chinese run the world - that would be so much better? I'd say as the most powerful nation who could've easily made everyone their slaves for the past 80 years has been fairly generous, being the so called "tyrant" that they are.
Try pulling this shit on Russian or Chinese soil and let's see how they deal with Iraq and any other terrorist shithole country. |
9/11 happened because of american backed use of torture on an intellectual in egypt named sayyid qutb, in the 1950s. The torture radicalized his beliefs and inspired the creation of al queda.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Qutb
as far as slavery goes, If the developing world didn't have outside interference, which has mostly come from the US they would likely be as advanced as the western countries today. But organizations like the IMF make mafia style loans to poor countries(run by US backed dictators), keep them in poverty and their citizens have to choose between wage slavery and starvation. Many workers in the 19th century considered the wage system a form of slavery.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_slavery
But yeah im not gona deny the world would be pretty much shit if china or russia ran it. They have far less freedom of speech. |
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TTomass   United States. Apr 16 2013 08:27. Posts 84 | | |
whats the chances the bomber is an amputee? |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Apr 16 2013 10:09. Posts 20070 | | |
| | On April 16 2013 07:27 TTomass wrote:
whats the chances the bomber is an amputee? |
3.12% |
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RaiNKhAN   United States. Apr 16 2013 11:03. Posts 4080 | | |
just 3 pages? we are desensitized |
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NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 16 2013 11:17. Posts 4952 | | |
| | On April 16 2013 00:28 capaneo wrote:
Low security and lots of media attention. I actually think it is a perfect target for "terrorizing" activities.
Also the issue of children is a non-issue for people from Middle East. MANY families in Iraw, Yemen, Afganestan have lost their children to Drone strikers and other actions taken by Americans.
According to USA records. Official American documents that is, since 2004. There has been 175 children, 535 civilian and 2400 "other group" dead in ONLY the drone strikes. And only the dead. The real number is probably 5-10 times the official numbers. "Other" definition is sometimes as loose as a teenage male.
But even with their own numbers that is 70 civilian and children dead EVERY YEAR. Which is about 6 civilian and children dead EVERY MONTH for the past 10 years and JUST from drones.
So if this bombing w 2-4 dead is done by Muslims the fact that "civilians and children" were killed is not an issue to them. They get an incident like this EVERY WEEK for the past 10 years just from drones.
That is why next time you USA is going to war they should think about the consequences like Ron Paul talks about. It's in their own fucking CIA reports. |
Yeah I mean obviously there is going to be consequences to our actions, although I still dont regret them considering the context in which they were conducted. I.E. the difference between "casualty of war" and "terrorism". We get to play the casualty card because our target is not civilains, that is an incidental side-effect due to the fact that our targets choose to hide themselves in civilian populated areas. The belief was that we would never attack civilians to destroy a target, so they thought they were safe. America was "too good" for that. Well guess what you're wrong, and we'll blow up a school if it means taking out 1 bad guy in it. Looks like the "bad guys" dont really care though and continue to hide out in neighborhoods and such rather than securing themselves in their own make-shift bases (tents, caves, hole in the ground, whatever. You want to conduct operations from your bedroom then you're responsible for the damage inflicted when someone attacks you).
Terrorism on the other hand is all about attacking civilians. The target is not meant to be strategic, it's meant to be psychological. For some reason terrorists believe that if they blow up enough civilians they will emotionally cripple their opponents and somehow establish victory. Look at what they're doing to themselves every day "over there". An attack doesnt even make headlines unless it kills at least 20 children. Is it working? I dunno maybe. But they'll never achieve that level of success here, so they are simply wasting their time and becoming a "nuisance" to the USA for lack of a better term. I mean clearly it's ridiculous to think killing 10-100 American civilians per year is going to have any tangible effect whatsoever. In fact all youre doing is guaranteeing escalated retaliation in return, in the form of massive drone strikes. Something like this happens and even the tree huggers start saying "nuke em all". I guess their lack of news and media information doesnt portray this so they continue to think pissing us off with shitty terrorist attacks every now and then is going to somehow turn the tides in their favor.
Anyway when it comes down to it, do I approve of drone strikes? Not really, but not because I dont want civilian casualties, but because I simply think it's ineffective. You kill some supposed terrorist mastermind and he just gets replaced by another. It's not like what these guys are doing is that sophisticated and cant be easily replicated by someone else. They're using old munitions rigged with simplistic detonators and going on suicide runs. Whoopdie do, you can teach anybody to do that, so we cant kill them all and "end terrorism". It's as futile as their attempts to squash us with equally pathetic attacks. The only reason we'll win is because we have the resources to spread our influence. The arabs have further invited us into their world, and I guarantee 50 years from now our military influence will have propagated into starbucks and mcdonalds in the streets of Pakistan, which is exactly what they dont want. We're westernizing the muslim world through war. |
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brambolius   Netherlands. Apr 16 2013 12:31. Posts 1708 | | |
| | On April 16 2013 10:03 RaiNKhAN wrote:
just 3 pages? we are desensitized |
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Gnarly   United States. Apr 16 2013 16:35. Posts 1723 | | | |
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Gnarly   United States. Apr 16 2013 18:35. Posts 1723 | | | |
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Fuck my visa application i guess. Thank you redneck assailant |
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| | On April 16 2013 10:17 NewbSaibot wrote:
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On April 16 2013 00:28 capaneo wrote:
Low security and lots of media attention. I actually think it is a perfect target for "terrorizing" activities.
Also the issue of children is a non-issue for people from Middle East. MANY families in Iraw, Yemen, Afganestan have lost their children to Drone strikers and other actions taken by Americans.
According to USA records. Official American documents that is, since 2004. There has been 175 children, 535 civilian and 2400 "other group" dead in ONLY the drone strikes. And only the dead. The real number is probably 5-10 times the official numbers. "Other" definition is sometimes as loose as a teenage male.
But even with their own numbers that is 70 civilian and children dead EVERY YEAR. Which is about 6 civilian and children dead EVERY MONTH for the past 10 years and JUST from drones.
So if this bombing w 2-4 dead is done by Muslims the fact that "civilians and children" were killed is not an issue to them. They get an incident like this EVERY WEEK for the past 10 years just from drones.
That is why next time you USA is going to war they should think about the consequences like Ron Paul talks about. It's in their own fucking CIA reports. |
Yeah I mean obviously there is going to be consequences to our actions, although I still dont regret them considering the context in which they were conducted. I.E. the difference between "casualty of war" and "terrorism". We get to play the casualty card because our target is not civilains, that is an incidental side-effect due to the fact that our targets choose to hide themselves in civilian populated areas. The belief was that we would never attack civilians to destroy a target, so they thought they were safe. America was "too good" for that. Well guess what you're wrong, and we'll blow up a school if it means taking out 1 bad guy in it. Looks like the "bad guys" dont really care though and continue to hide out in neighborhoods and such rather than securing themselves in their own make-shift bases (tents, caves, hole in the ground, whatever. You want to conduct operations from your bedroom then you're responsible for the damage inflicted when someone attacks you).
Terrorism on the other hand is all about attacking civilians. The target is not meant to be strategic, it's meant to be psychological. For some reason terrorists believe that if they blow up enough civilians they will emotionally cripple their opponents and somehow establish victory. Look at what they're doing to themselves every day "over there". An attack doesnt even make headlines unless it kills at least 20 children. Is it working? I dunno maybe. But they'll never achieve that level of success here, so they are simply wasting their time and becoming a "nuisance" to the USA for lack of a better term. I mean clearly it's ridiculous to think killing 10-100 American civilians per year is going to have any tangible effect whatsoever. In fact all youre doing is guaranteeing escalated retaliation in return, in the form of massive drone strikes. Something like this happens and even the tree huggers start saying "nuke em all". I guess their lack of news and media information doesnt portray this so they continue to think pissing us off with shitty terrorist attacks every now and then is going to somehow turn the tides in their favor.
Anyway when it comes down to it, do I approve of drone strikes? Not really, but not because I dont want civilian casualties, but because I simply think it's ineffective. You kill some supposed terrorist mastermind and he just gets replaced by another. It's not like what these guys are doing is that sophisticated and cant be easily replicated by someone else. They're using old munitions rigged with simplistic detonators and going on suicide runs. Whoopdie do, you can teach anybody to do that, so we cant kill them all and "end terrorism". It's as futile as their attempts to squash us with equally pathetic attacks. The only reason we'll win is because we have the resources to spread our influence. The arabs have further invited us into their world, and I guarantee 50 years from now our military influence will have propagated into starbucks and mcdonalds in the streets of Pakistan, which is exactly what they dont want. We're westernizing the muslim world through war.
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terrorists are people. they often have families that they provide for. terrorist leaders are often patriarchs with bigger families.they don't necessarily have the means to build an underground cave complex they can go out to hide in while coming up with their next evil plots. you're not fighting against the legion of doom.
like, I know that you're not defending drone strikes. but you are still really guilty of this whole.. idea that terrorists are just so evil that they're willing to use children and civilians whom are often friends or family as sacrifices to get political gains and understanding for their desire to kill civilians on their own? I mean what?
I think a much more precise way of looking at it is this; terrorists also consider their civilian targets collateral damage. it's just that their goal isn't to kill some specific or unspecific high ranking military official, but to create fear which influences further policy from the country they are targeting. in either case it's equally futile, because any victim of collateral damage will completely disregard that the culprit considers its an unfortunate neccessity, and one amazing thing about feelings and actions is that they multiply. hatred leads to more hatred and war leads to more war. |
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capaneo   Canada. Apr 17 2013 04:06. Posts 8465 | | |
"terrorists are people. they often have families that they provide for. you're not fighting against the legion of doom."
That is sooo true, Im gonna steal that one and probably use it in the future.  |
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Gnarly   United States. Apr 17 2013 08:35. Posts 1723 | | | |
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TTomass   United States. Apr 17 2013 10:25. Posts 84 | | |
I was running on the treadmile yesterday, training for a marathon, and in the middle of my run in my imagination suddenly my treadmile exploded. I got scared maybe I'm going to get bombed on this treadmile. Then I realized there's no children around, so I'm safe. |
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