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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 14 2013 19:05. Posts 13257

Date: Saturday, April 20th
Preliminary Card (Facebook): 15:00 LP.net / 1pm PST / 4pm EST Facebook stream
Preliminary Card (FX): 16:00 LP.net / 2pm PST / 5pm EST
Main Card (FOX): 19:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Live Streams: Prelims are Live on Facebook/YouTube and Fuel TV - http://www.vipbox.tv (All MMA events are listed under the UFC button. Press the UFC button and you'll see the event in the list.)





Main Card (FOX)

Benson Henderson (18-2) vs. Gilbert Melendez (21-2) (Lightweight Championship)
Frank Mir (16-6) vs. Daniel Cormier (11-0) (Heavyweight)
Nate Diaz (16-8) vs. Josh Thomson (19-5) (Lightweight)
Matt Brown (16-11) vs. Jordan Mein (27-8) (Welterweight)

Preliminary Card (FX)

Chad Mendes (13-1) vs. Darren Elkins (16-2) (Featherweight)
Francis Carmont (20-7) vs. Lorenz Larkin (13-0) (Middleweight)
Ramsey Nijem (7-2) vs. Myles Jury (11-0) (Lightweight)
Joseph Benavidez (17-3) vs. Darren Uyenoyama (8-3) (Flyweight)
Tim Means (18-3-1) vs. Jorge Masvidal (23-7) (Lightweight)
T.J. Dillashaw (7-1) vs. Hugo Viana (7-0) (Bantamweight)

Preliminary Card (Facebook)

Anthony Njokuani (15-7) vs. Roger Bowling (11-3) (Lightweight)
Clifford Starks (8-1) vs. Yoel Romero (4-1) (Middleweight)

Other

- Clay Guida was expected to face Chad Mendes at this event. However it was revealed on March 15 that Guida had pulled out of the bout citing an injury and was replaced by Darren Elkins.
- Dan Hardy was expected to face Matt Brown at the event. However, Hardy was forced out of the bout due to medical issues regarding his heart and has been replaced by Jordan Mein.
- Francisco Rivera was expected to face Hugo Viana at the event. However, Rivera was forced out of the bout with an injury and replaced by T.J. Dillashaw.
- A scheduled bout between Jon Tuck and Norman Parke was scrapped during the week leading up to the event, as Tuck was forced out of the bout with an injury.

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 14 2013 19:13. Posts 13257



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Prior to doing research, these are my gun-to-the-head picks for UFC on Fox 7.

• Henderson > Melendez (Clashing styles.)
• Cormier > Mir (I'll put Cormier in some parlays cuz he's too expensive for my liking. I think this has a good chance to go to decision. I'll also end up straight-betting Mir finishing ITD/Submission. Cormier's hands are being overrated to where people think he has massive power and can easily KO Mir.)
• Thomson > Diaz (Clashing styles.)
• Mein > Brown
• Larkin > Carmont (Hopefully Larkin has worked only on keeping it standing, cuz Carmon't striking is kinda bad, even though I used to think it was good for some reason. Carmont has that look to him where you think he'd be a killer, but that's just not the case.)
• Mendes > Elkins (Short notice fight for Elkins, and he's just not on Mendes' level atm.)
• Parke > Tuck
• Jury > Nijem
• Benavidez > Uyenoyama (Surprised this is so low on the FX card. Benavidez was on PPV for his last fight, which was a win.)
• Masvidal vs. Means (Need to go look at tape on Means, dunno if I seem him fight before.)
• Dillashaw > Viana (I think Viana will come out swinging with everything he has, just like in his last fight. Dillashaw just needs to dodge the first wave and then set up the take down after getting Viana's timing.
• Njokuani > Bowling (I like Bowling, but I think Njokuani will keep the distance nicely. Maybe a parlay on a prop bet for Bowling, cuz he does have power in his hands, but his striking is kinda limited imo.)
• Romero > Starks (Both Romero and Starks haven't fought for over a year, but Starks was terrible the last time I saw him. Romero was fed to Rafael Cavalcante in Strikeforce when he wasn't even on his level yet and only had 4 pro fights. The hype for Romero was his Olympic accomplishments. If the drop down in weightclass doesn't hurt Romero, I'll take his wrestling and sloppy heavy hands over Starks wrestling.)

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HaiVan   Bulgaria. Apr 14 2013 20:36. Posts 2083

Cant remember the last time i was so unexcited about a title fight at 155 or above.

For some reason i really dont care about that fight. One of the weaker FOX cards also.

Henderson > Melendez
Cormier > Mir
Diaz >Thomson
Mein > Brown

Poker chobo. 

PplusAD   Germany. Apr 14 2013 22:49. Posts 7182


  On April 14 2013 18:13 PuertoRican wrote:

• Romero > Starks (Both Romero and Starks haven't fought for over a year, but Starks was terrible the last time I saw him. Romero was fed to Rafael Cavalcante in Strikeforce when he wasn't even on his level yet and only had 4 pro fights. The hype for Romero was his Olympic accomplishments. If the drop down in weightclass doesn't hurt Romero, I'll take his wrestling and sloppy heavy hands over Starks wrestling.)



Calvacante was Romeros 3rd real MMA fight.
Michal Fijalka was his only real opponent.

Sascha Weinpolter is/was medicore even for local (german/austrian)competition
the fights vs Nikita Petrovs and Laszlo Eck were fake.
I know the guys who organized these fights.
It was very clear that they had no interest in fighting romero and would lose in the first round .. but the organizer wanted to attract local viewers by presenting an olympic wrestler and those opponents were willing to "fake" fight for low money.

So overall Romero only had 2 MMA fights before facing Calvacante.
Romero is pretty dangerous but this fight was far too early in his MMA career

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)Last edit: 14/04/2013 22:49

handbanana21   United States. Apr 14 2013 23:50. Posts 3037

diaz has no chance against josh. hell get cage controlled and wrestled to a decision.


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 15 2013 00:23. Posts 13257



Josh Thomson vs. Nate Diaz grappling competition from over 6 years ago.

Many people aren't aware that JT is a black belt in BJJ.

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soberstone   United States. Apr 15 2013 01:50. Posts 2662

Forgive my nubness, but how did they determine that Nate won that? Seemed very close, is it just ref decides? or is there a scoring system


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 15 2013 02:00. Posts 13257

^ There's some scoring system. I'm not sure how it works in BJJ.

Either way, the match itself is pretty old.

JT is gonna be my biggest bet on this card. Already have $40 on him, just waiting for his prop to win by decision, to come out. I'll probably do at least $100 on him altogether, since his straight line is +170 right now.

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Daut    United States. Apr 15 2013 02:04. Posts 8955


  On April 15 2013 00:50 soberstone wrote:
Forgive my nubness, but how did they determine that Nate won that? Seemed very close, is it just ref decides? or is there a scoring system



didnt watch whole match but scoring system is basically like this: you get points for takedowns (2), sweeps (2), passes to side control (3), knee on belly position (3), getting mount (4) and getting back with both hooks in (4). for good submission attempts you get advantage points which are used as a tiebreaker if the points are equal. so first you check who has more points, then you check who has more advantages, and after that the ref just makes a decision on who he thinks won the match if both of those are tied.

thats why you see guys pulling guard so often, cause if you pull guard you dont give up any points for a takedown and dont waste time fighting for one or trying to fight them off. but whats annoying is this: suppose someone pulls guard, gets a deep triangle attempt, barely misses (1 advantage), switches to armbar, almost gets it (2 advantages) gets his guard passed and guy holds side control for a few seconds (3 points), guy retains his guard, sweeps (2 points), gets on top and passes to half guard and the match ends, the guy with 2 submission attempts and a sweep loses 3-2 even though he controlled most of the match and had more relevant offense than his opponent just because a pass to side is worth more than subs or sweeps

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flounder44   United States. Apr 15 2013 06:52. Posts 916

who the hell is jordan mein?


DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Apr 15 2013 09:24. Posts 8623


  On April 15 2013 05:52 flounder44 wrote:
who the hell is jordan mein?



Young Canadian guy who's really good. I'll probably bet him if I can get decent odds.


RaiNKhAN    United States. Apr 15 2013 09:29. Posts 4080

frank mir +350 rofl, oh how low we have fallen from the glory days of -200 vs shane carwin

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PplusAD   Germany. Apr 15 2013 12:40. Posts 7182


  On April 15 2013 05:52 flounder44 wrote:
who the hell is jordan mein?



U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)Last edit: 15/04/2013 12:44

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 15 2013 21:19. Posts 13257

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drone666   Brasil. Apr 15 2013 21:33. Posts 1828

Hugo Wolverine @ +227 is a good bet imo, he's really solid, underrated fighter

Dont listen to anything I say 

Jamie217   Canada. Apr 15 2013 21:40. Posts 4351

Jordan Mein is a beast!


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 15 2013 22:16. Posts 13257


  On April 15 2013 20:33 drone666 wrote:
Hugo Wolverine @ +227 is a good bet imo, he's really solid, underrated fighter



Says the Brazilian.

Hugo's chance to win is by throwing wild bombs like he did in his last fight to earn his first ever KO. Dillashaw should get the take down pretty easily and win via guillotine, RnC, or decision.

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drone666   Brasil. Apr 15 2013 22:31. Posts 1828

yeah, maybe I am missing something, because the line is now @ +298, lol

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alejandicto   . Apr 16 2013 14:55. Posts 865

I think there is some value on Frank Mir and Matt Brown. Still thinking...

I will bet on Henderson, Diaz, Benavides and Mendes in some parlays

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tuiuPNxKjx4


NotSorry   United States. Apr 16 2013 17:46. Posts 2603

Got a Mir fan at the gym to go 1:1 on $100. Cormier is going to shit on Mir.

We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. 

CamilaPunt   Brasil. Apr 16 2013 18:05. Posts 2422

^lol sick hustle


Stim_Abuser   United States. Apr 16 2013 19:01. Posts 7499

Anyone like Josh Thompson at +170?

Can't decide how much of him vs Gil was him looking good and Gil looking bad, and how much of Nate vs Bendo was Nate looking bad and how much was Bendo looking great.

Thompson is pretty good at using the entire striking arsenal, which means lots of kicks. Not really powerful ones, but they score points. He's got pretty good movement as well, and should have a wrestling advantage and is a good BJJ blackbelt as well.

Hrm.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 16 2013 19:03. Posts 13257


  On April 16 2013 16:46 NotSorry wrote:
Got a Mir fan at the gym to go 1:1 on $100. Cormier is going to shit on Mir.



If you see him early enough on Friday, figure out a way to get him to watch the weigh-ins.

Once he sees the size difference and Cormier's body type, he'll want to bet more on Mir.


  On April 16 2013 18:01 Stim_Abuser wrote:
Anyone like Josh Thompson at +170?

Can't decide how much of him vs Gil was him looking good and Gil looking bad, and how much of Nate vs Bendo was Nate looking bad and how much was Bendo looking great.

Thompson is pretty good at using the entire striking arsenal, which means lots of kicks. Not really powerful ones, but they score points. He's got pretty good movement as well, and should have a wrestling advantage and is a good BJJ blackbelt as well.

Hrm.



I have $40 on him already. Gonna wait and see what his prop bet will be, to win via decision. He will be my biggest bet on a single fighter on the card, as I'm looking to bet up to $100 on him in total. I'd bet more if he didn't do the movie gig.

Also, Thomson has had just over 1 month of solid training. He was overseas shooting some martial arts movie. I still believe in he will win though, cuz he trains year round.

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DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Apr 17 2013 04:25. Posts 8623

Odds on Mein went to shit, should've bet earlier. Got decent sized bet on Larkin. Let's see if I can make it 5 events in a row (excluding those I have not bet) where I make money .


alejandicto   . Apr 18 2013 11:37. Posts 865

I think too that Larkin is a good bet. Carmount is not that good.


DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Apr 18 2013 11:44. Posts 8623

Yea, don't know a ton about him but he looked really sloppy on the UFC Sweden card a year ago and while he's big and strong I don't get the feeling that he's actually good at fighting.


ERASA   Germany. Apr 18 2013 13:24. Posts 2440

Will there be a pre fight press conference for this? And if so wouldn't it be today?

 Last edit: 18/04/2013 13:24

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 18 2013 15:01. Posts 13257




Josh Thompson was just on the MMA Junkie radio show and he said his training camp wasnt the best because of his long layoff due to the movie.

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UFC on FOX 7 preview: 35 facts, via MMAMania.com

(I thought #2 was interesting.)

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 19 2013 12:45. Posts 13257



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Yoel Romero interview

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 19 2013 18:17. Posts 13257




Weigh-ins start in 42 minutes. (18:00 LP.net)

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HaiVan   Bulgaria. Apr 19 2013 19:32. Posts 2083

Damn Mir is ripped at 257, Cormier is a pudgy 235.

He could probably go to 205 without too much trouble if he diets right.

Poker chobo. 

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 19 2013 19:56. Posts 13257



The major ones I noticed


Benavidez looked good. He usually looks super drained, this time he was exactly 125 and his face was only semi drained. His weight cut isn't a problem anymore it seems.

Bowling looked good during the weigh-in, same as usual just smaller cuz of the new weight class.

Nate had a little trouble on the scale. He's already going to move up to welterweight after this fight, win or lose. Thomson didn't have a full training camp, and he said it took him 4-5 weeks to get back into fighting shape, which lets me know he's good to go, Hopefully Thomson doesn't have any cardio trouble, but since it's a 3 round fight, he should be okay.

Mir looked great. His chest and stomach were solid, and he isn't carrying around that beer belly like usual.

Benson looked tired walking out to the stage. But he always handles his weigh cuts just fine.

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There's some sick props available at 5dimes, all you bettors should go check them out b4 they get worse.

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MysticJoey   Poland. Apr 19 2013 20:45. Posts 1430

Frank Mir (16-6) < Daniel Cormier (11-0) (Heavyweight)
Nate Diaz (16-8) > Josh Thomson (19-5) (Lightweight)
Matt Brown (16-11) > Jordan Mein (27-8) (Welterweight)


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 19 2013 21:27. Posts 13257


  On April 19 2013 19:45 MysticJoey wrote:
Frank Mir (16-6) < Daniel Cormier (11-0) (Heavyweight)
Nate Diaz (16-8) > Josh Thomson (19-5) (Lightweight)
Matt Brown (16-11) > Jordan Mein (27-8) (Welterweight)




Go lay down some money on those bets and tell me how you do.

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Henderson > Melendez
Cormier > Mir
Thomson > Diaz
Mein > Brown
Mendes > Elkins
Larkin > Carmont
Jury > Nijem
Benavidez > Uyenoyama
Means > Masvidal
Dillashaw > Viana
Njokuani > Bowling
Romero > Starks

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Stim_Abuser   United States. Apr 20 2013 03:06. Posts 7499

God damn TRT Mir looking RIPPED.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 20 2013 12:27. Posts 13257

Mir has been on TRT for awhile. He looks ripped cuz he's actually training out of a real camp in Jacksons MMA, instead of his own gym in Las Vegas where his wife and kids would always come to see him and he was surrounded by yes-men.

If Mir could only work on his speed, he'd be so much better. When I see him fight, I feel like I'm watching a 150 pound man inside of a 250 pound mans body, in that he's so slow with his punches and his high round kick is so telegraphed. It's no wonder why he excelled in BJJ. His size and natural brute strength on the ground, mixed with skill, is dangerous.

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dUUd_   Estonia. Apr 20 2013 12:32. Posts 1840

Mir looked ripped. At current price he is must bet imo.

redsnuff: bets all in with bad preflop hand and tell me to learn poker redsnuff: senceless 

JonnyCosMo   United States. Apr 20 2013 13:51. Posts 7292

Cormier > Mir (-380)
Thomson > Diaz (+170)
Brown > Mein (+290)

Those are my bets.

Henderson has the advantage in the main, but I feel like this will be a tough fight for him. I almost want to bet Melendez at +250... but I think line is about right.

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Daut    United States. Apr 20 2013 14:37. Posts 8955

swore id never bet against bendo again, but seems like +250 has value. taking a small stab on gilbert.

but man, i finally get bendo now and why he is so so good and why people have such a hard time exploiting the things hes weaker at. for someone who almost never finishes anyone he is super fucking dangerous everywhere. at range his leg kicks are insane. in close his elbows and clinch fighting is vicious. hes imo the best athlete in mma and his takedowns are great. his GNP is great. he has some of the best guillotines in mma. his chin and sub defense rival guys like jon fitch and he never gets tired and fights at a great pace all fight. its really incredible that he doesnt finish more guys, especially in later rounds when he is fighting at 100% vs guys who have been beaten on for a long fight.

but at the same time, his boxing is still mediocre, his defensive wrestling is much worse than his offensive wrestling, and while he seems unsubmittable, he does get into quite a few precarious positions on the ground. at some point someone will take advantage of his weaknesses, but i dont know if gil is the guy to do it. hes a blown up 145 facing one of the most physically dominating fighters in the sport. i dont think one bad fight vs josh thomson is enough to call gil overrated and still think hes every bit as good as he showed in some of his other fights. i just dont know if he can overcome what bendo has. worth a small bet though, time to go 0-6 vs bendo

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 20 2013 15:01. Posts 13257




Starts in 59 minutes.

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Judo Chop: The Striking of Benson Henderson.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/4/19/...-bendo-striking-wrestling-ufc-mma-fox


Judo Chop: The Striking of Gilbert Melendez.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/4/19/...henderson-striking-analysis-judo-chop

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UFC on FOX 7: Gilbert Melendez' Separated Shoulder. (talks about his shoulder injury in 2012)
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/4/20/...7-gilbert-melendez-separated-shoulder

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cariadon   Estonia. Apr 20 2013 15:04. Posts 4019

Kudos for the updates, keep us posted please.


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 20 2013 15:16. Posts 13257

The following bets are just my single bets, and I will add more later as the event goes on, and will also live bet some matches.

I didn't add my list of parlays cuz it's too long and a waste of space.

Also, some of my single bets are just for value, and I have them countered with parlays where I think the other guy will win.

Who I think will win

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Single bets

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 20 2013 16:12. Posts 13257

BOOM! Sweet ass flying knee by Romero~

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PplusAD   Germany. Apr 20 2013 16:16. Posts 7182

yeha i am so happy for him

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz) 

Stim_Abuser   United States. Apr 20 2013 16:43. Posts 7499

God damn nice work my Anjukuani

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 20 2013 16:43. Posts 13257

BOOM! Bowling just pulled a Ryan Bader vs. Machida and ate a knuckle sandwich before taking a nap.

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Stim_Abuser   United States. Apr 20 2013 16:47. Posts 7499


  On April 20 2013 11:27 PuertoRican wrote:
Mir has been on TRT for awhile. He looks ripped cuz he's actually training out of a real camp in Jacksons MMA, instead of his own gym in Las Vegas where his wife and kids would always come to see him and he was surrounded by yes-men.

If Mir could only work on his speed, he'd be so much better. When I see him fight, I feel like I'm watching a 150 pound man inside of a 250 pound mans body, in that he's so slow with his punches and his high round kick is so telegraphed. It's no wonder why he excelled in BJJ. His size and natural brute strength on the ground, mixed with skill, is dangerous.



I thought this was only his 2nd fight on TRT?

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

Stim_Abuser   United States. Apr 20 2013 16:56. Posts 7499


  On April 20 2013 13:37 Daut wrote:
swore id never bet against bendo again, but seems like +250 has value. taking a small stab on gilbert.

but man, i finally get bendo now and why he is so so good and why people have such a hard time exploiting the things hes weaker at. for someone who almost never finishes anyone he is super fucking dangerous everywhere. at range his leg kicks are insane. in close his elbows and clinch fighting is vicious. hes imo the best athlete in mma and his takedowns are great. his GNP is great. he has some of the best guillotines in mma. his chin and sub defense rival guys like jon fitch and he never gets tired and fights at a great pace all fight. its really incredible that he doesnt finish more guys, especially in later rounds when he is fighting at 100% vs guys who have been beaten on for a long fight.

but at the same time, his boxing is still mediocre, his defensive wrestling is much worse than his offensive wrestling, and while he seems unsubmittable, he does get into quite a few precarious positions on the ground. at some point someone will take advantage of his weaknesses, but i dont know if gil is the guy to do it. hes a blown up 145 facing one of the most physically dominating fighters in the sport. i dont think one bad fight vs josh thomson is enough to call gil overrated and still think hes every bit as good as he showed in some of his other fights. i just dont know if he can overcome what bendo has. worth a small bet though, time to go 0-6 vs bendo



Was curious about your thoughts on this, I know you were a big believer in Gil for a long time and like me always seem to underestimate Bendo.

Hard to gauge how good Gil really is tbh, but gogo GIL.

Also Bendo isn't even the best athlete on this card. GOGO Yoel Romero

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 20 2013 16:57. Posts 13257




He's been on TRT since June 2nd, 2012, legally. He obviously was on it before then, but that's just my opinion.

Anyway, TRT won't improve his speed, which is his major problem. Training at Jackson's MMA will improve him as a fighter, but he's only been there for 3 months so far, and you can't expect him to be this slick new fighter in that short amount of time, especially since he's already been in the UFC for 12 years and is set in his ways.

Mir said he's staying at Jackson's MMA, even after this fight is over. I think it will help him grow as a fighter, and I hope he does well in the future and doesn't get KO`ed anymore.

Lastly, I actually don't care if Mir beats Cormier, cuz that would make me money and also, Cormier isn't sure what he's doing yet after this fight, whether it's staying at HW or moving to LHW. Cormier weighed 229 lbs, and decided to put on 6 more pounds cuz Frank is so big.

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PplusAD   Germany. Apr 20 2013 17:15. Posts 7182

Gogo TJ !
Love him as a fighter
He is explosive and can do all
wrestling BJJ and striking

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)Last edit: 20/04/2013 17:16

PplusAD   Germany. Apr 20 2013 17:22. Posts 7182

HM i have massive sound lags ... video is smooth but sound lags on official HD stream
anyone else watching the official ppv stream and have this massive sound lags ??

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)Last edit: 20/04/2013 17:25

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 20 2013 17:23. Posts 13257

I Got a last minute bet on Dillashaw/Viana under 2.5 at +120

Figured Viana would be throwing bombs like last time cuz he probably thinks he can KO anyone now, and Dillashaw could win via submission or TKO.

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MysticJoey   Poland. Apr 20 2013 17:27. Posts 1430


  On April 20 2013 16:22 PplusAD wrote:
HM i have massive sound lags ... video is smooth but sound lags on official HD stream
anyone else watching the official ppv stream and have this massive sound lags ??



yes


PplusAD   Germany. Apr 20 2013 17:32. Posts 7182

God its unwatchable with that audio ...
Glad i dont have to pay in germany ... (since MMA is illegal here for television and so UFC decided to give ppv stream for free)

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)Last edit: 20/04/2013 17:33

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 20 2013 17:32. Posts 13257

You can't mute the audio? As long as the video is fine, that's all that matters.

Rekrul is a newb 

PplusAD   Germany. Apr 20 2013 17:35. Posts 7182

Seems the fixed it now
great event so far !

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)Last edit: 20/04/2013 17:35

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 20 2013 17:57. Posts 13257

I put an extra $5 on Means at +440 via live betting.

Damage wise, Means should win. Masvidal didn't do much damage in the 3rd round, even when he had the top mount. Means landed a lot.

I score it 2-1 for Means, split-decision.

Either way, I have:

Jorge Masvidal/Tim Means goes 3 round distance $29.00 to win $20.00
Jorge Masvidal/Tim Means goes 3 round distance $14.50 to win $10.00

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Damn, Means lost that... Still profited from it, but sad that Masvidal got that.

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My bets so far

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PplusAD   Germany. Apr 20 2013 18:30. Posts 7182

brb fapping.

Beautiful liver KO by Benavidez

Great fights so far !
5 fights 4 brutal Knockouts

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 20 2013 18:42. Posts 13257

LMAO! I can't wait for Nijem's KO .gif picture.

He was sleeping as he fell back.

Half of this UFC card is going to have to take a 60-90 day suspension for getting KO`ed...

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sir_   Estonia. Apr 20 2013 18:59. Posts 128


  On April 20 2013 17:42 PuertoRican wrote:

Half of this UFC card is going to have to take a 60-90 day suspension for getting KO`ed...


chicken salad out of chicken shit  

ERASA   Germany. Apr 20 2013 19:25. Posts 2440

eh?


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 20 2013 19:26. Posts 13257

Carmont winning terrible decisions all over North America. So sad.

I blame it on Larkin for not stepping his striking output.

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PplusAD   Germany. Apr 20 2013 19:43. Posts 7182

Bam next sick Ko
Team Alpha mail 3 Ko victories today

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MysticJoey   Poland. Apr 20 2013 19:46. Posts 1430

they should think about such a mail


PplusAD   Germany. Apr 20 2013 19:47. Posts 7182

haha ofc i ment male ^^

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 20 2013 19:54. Posts 13257








Hopefully someone gets KO`ed in the next fight, so I can win money either way.

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cariadon   Estonia. Apr 20 2013 20:06. Posts 4019

Link ?


HaiVan   Bulgaria. Apr 20 2013 20:26. Posts 2083

Awesome first round.

Poker chobo. 

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 20 2013 20:29. Posts 13257

Nice job by Brown. Mein couldn't handle his pressure.

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PplusAD   Germany. Apr 20 2013 20:30. Posts 7182

Matt Brown has really improved a ton as fighter since he has been on TUF !

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz) 

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 20 2013 20:34. Posts 13257

Brown via KO/TKO was +1240 on 5dimes, and closed at +1000.

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HaiVan   Bulgaria. Apr 20 2013 20:53. Posts 2083

FUCK YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Poker chobo. 

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 20 2013 20:54. Posts 13257

JOSH THOMSON IS BACK! Hey Dana, $60 g's BABY!!!

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PplusAD   Germany. Apr 20 2013 20:54. Posts 7182

wtf KO after Ko after KO today lol
best UFC card ever ?

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz) 

cariadon   Estonia. Apr 20 2013 20:57. Posts 4019

This is a lot of KO's with hopefully more to come. Nate got beat down hard, sad times for Diaz brothers.


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 20 2013 20:58. Posts 13257

I bet Dana White is having multiple orgasms over this card. Not only is the card sick good, but it's on the biggest FOX platform, which means $$$...

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HaiVan   Bulgaria. Apr 20 2013 21:00. Posts 2083

Damn totally taking back my "weak" card comments lol

Poker chobo. 

jvilla777   Australia. Apr 20 2013 21:05. Posts 1348

fuuuuuuark i missed the earlier fights

Mir<Cormier
Hendo>Melendez

Boom headshot!

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

jvilla777   Australia. Apr 20 2013 21:18. Posts 1348

mir moves like a zombie like a decaying zombie

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

PplusAD   Germany. Apr 20 2013 21:25. Posts 7182

Mir is done ... he is so fucking slow...
And all that talk about his training camp ... blah

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ERASA   Germany. Apr 20 2013 21:29. Posts 2440

why is mir fighting the takedowns...?


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 20 2013 21:31. Posts 13257

Sigh... The fight most expected to end ITD, ends up going the distance...

Looks like a lot of people lost money on this fight, aside from the people who paid the -400 or more juice on Cormier straight.

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HaiVan   Bulgaria. Apr 20 2013 21:32. Posts 2083

Dissapointing fight, not at all dissapointed that i 10x'ed my money with a Brown/Thomson/Cormier parlay thx to Cosmo.

Now i need a Henderson win to finish a nice night of betting.

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Stim_Abuser   United States. Apr 20 2013 22:15. Posts 7499

Gil down 3-1 in rounds, game over.

Pretty surprised catching kicks was part of the game plan. I mean they didn't work for Frankie, what made them think they'd work for Gil?

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

K40Cheddar   United States. Apr 20 2013 22:21. Posts 2202

good fight. I give henderson 2,3, and 4.

inb4 praise lord jesus

GG 

jvilla777   Australia. Apr 20 2013 22:21. Posts 1348

3-2 hendo

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

K40Cheddar   United States. Apr 20 2013 22:25. Posts 2202

OH GOD

NICE PROPOSAL WITH ALL THE BOOS LOL

GGLast edit: 20/04/2013 22:26

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 20 2013 22:25. Posts 13257

I had it 3-2 for Benson as well.

Melendez would have won if he would have kept the pace. He slowed down after round 1.

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HaiVan   Bulgaria. Apr 20 2013 22:27. Posts 2083

48-47 Bendo seems about right, could have been the other way and still feel right.

Good night for me.

Poker chobo. 

PplusAD   Germany. Apr 20 2013 22:31. Posts 7182


  On April 20 2013 21:25 PuertoRican wrote:
I had it 3-2 for Benson as well.

Melendez would have won if he would have kept the pace. He slowed down after round 1.



exactly what i think.

I also see it 3-2 Benson despite thinking he is an idiot.
Melendez could have won but at one point he slowed down too much.

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Daut    United States. Apr 20 2013 22:32. Posts 8955

super frustrating how lucky benson is.

def no robbery, but he just wins every fucking flip ever. wins the flip round vs cerrone, wins every flip round vs edgar, wins every flip round vs gilbert

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut 

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 20 2013 22:38. Posts 13257

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA6N0XFsNv0&


Canelo Alvarez vs. Austin Trout, starts soon: http://www.vipbox.tv/boxing/149266/1/...t-unification-live-stream-online.html

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JonnyCosMo   United States. Apr 20 2013 23:23. Posts 7292


  On April 20 2013 12:51 JonnyCosMo wrote:
Cormier > Mir (-380)
Thomson > Diaz (+170)
Brown > Mein (+290)

Those are my bets.

Henderson has the advantage in the main, but I feel like this will be a tough fight for him. I almost want to bet Melendez at +250... but I think line is about right.



CosMadamus sees the fucking future bitches!!!

Scored the main fight 48-47 for Jesus Christ. Gilbert can win that fight thou.

Matt Brown is a fucking animal. O_O

Everyone needs to see that you are king of the castle - PoorUserLast edit: 20/04/2013 23:25

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 21 2013 02:40. Posts 13257

Fighters were awarded $50,000 bonuses

Fight of the Night: Matt Brown vs. Jordan Mein
Knockout of the Night: Josh Thomson & Yoel Romero
Submission of the Night: None

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April 20th results

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 21 2013 04:18. Posts 13257

Taken from a Sherdog forum thread

Title: Cesar Gracie Affiliate owner Wade Vierra, judging Benson/Melendez

From Wade Vierra's gym's website: http://www.mmagraciefighter.com/

MMA GRACIE FIGHTER is an established Roseville MMA Academy for over 25 years. Located in the Roseville area. MMA GRACIE FIGHTER ROSEVILLE is Sacramento areas only "CESAR GRACIE" AFFILIATE ACADEMY- Which has produced top 10 World ranked fighters, such as: Jake Shields, Nick Diaz, Nate Diaz, David Terrell, and Gilberbt Melendez. Which have held and fought for every major title in such organizations as: UFC, PRIDE, ELITE XC and STRIKEFORCE

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Derek Cleary
Rds 1, 2 for Gil
Rds 3, 4, 5 for Ben

Wade Vierra
Rds 1, 4, 5 for Gil
Rds 2-3 for Ben

Michael Bell
Rds 1, 5 for Gil
Rds 2, 3, 4 Ben

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DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Apr 21 2013 05:02. Posts 8623

So annoyed with the Carmont vs Larkin dec.

Oh well, better luck next time.


CamilaPunt   Brasil. Apr 21 2013 08:05. Posts 2422


  On April 20 2013 21:32 Daut wrote:
super frustrating how lucky benson is.

def no robbery, but he just wins every fucking flip ever. wins the flip round vs cerrone, wins every flip round vs edgar, wins every flip round vs gilbert



benson reply: the more i praise Jesus the luckier i get now can-i-get-a-mofo-amen-in-dis-house?

cosmo god damn your on a sick heater on UFC picks


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 21 2013 13:16. Posts 13257




Rousey on the left side. Looks like she was in shock while having to watch her boy get beat up.

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Random statement/question about Nate's payment by someone at MMA Junkie: That Diaz pay is obviously a mistake, he made 37/37 vs Cowboy at UFC 141 and made 50k for his last fight vs Bendo which he lost, so he was on a 50/50 for that fight.

Response from MMA Junkie staff: It's not a typo/mistake. That's the official disclosed payday.

Sounds like they restructured his deal, and there may have been some money upfront that isn't reflected here.

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Benson Henderson: $200,000 (includes $100,000 win bonus)
def. Gilbert Melendez: $175,000

Daniel Cormier: $126,000 (includes $63,000 win bonus)
def. Frank Mir: $200,000

Josh Thomson: $95,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
def. Nate Diaz: $15,000

Matt Brown: $60,000 (includes $30,000 win bonus)
def. Jordan Mein: $16,000

Chad Mendes: $56,000 (includes $28,000 win bonus)
def. Darren Elkins: $24,000

Francis Carmont: $38,000 (includes $19,000 win bonus)
def. Lorenz Larkin: $23,000

Myles Jury: $16,000 (includes $8,000 win bonus)
def. Ramsey Nijem: $14,000

Joseph Benavidez: $66,000 (includes $33,000 win bonus)
def. Darren Uyenoyama: $12,000

T.J. Dillashaw: $28,000 (includes $14,000 win bonus)
def. Hugo Viana: $8,000

Jorge Masvidal: $60,000 (includes $30,000 win bonus)
def. Tim Means: $10,000

Anthony Njorkuani: $36,000 (includes $18,000 win bonus)
def. Roger Bowling: $12,000

Yoel Romero: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
def. Clifford Starks: $8,000

Now, the usual disclaimer: The figures do not include deductions for items such as insurance, licenses and taxes. Additionally, the figures do not include money paid by sponsors, which can oftentimes be a substantial portion of a fighter's income. They also do not include any other "locker room" or special discretionary bonuses the UFC oftentimes pays.

For example, as previously reported, UFC officials handed out additional $50,000 UFC on FOX 7 bonuses to Romero and Thomson (dual "KO of the Night" winners), and Brown and Mein ("Fight of the Night").

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 21 2013 18:40. Posts 13257

35 post-fight facts from UFC on FOX 7, via MMAMania.com


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