UFC 158: St-Pierre vs. Diaz

Date: Saturday, March 16th
Preliminary Card (Facebook): 17:35 LP.net / 3:35pm PST / 6:35pm EST Facebook stream
Preliminary Card (FX): 19:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card Time (PPV): 21:00 LP.net / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: Prelims are Live on FX & Facebook/YouTube - http://www.vipbox.tv (All MMA events are listed under the UFC button. Press the UFC button and you'll see the event in the list.)





Main Card (PPV)

Georges St-Pierre (23-2) vs. Nick Diaz (26-8) (Welterweight Championship)
Carlos Condit (28-6) vs. Johny Hendricks (14-1) (Welterweight)
Jake Ellenberger (28-6) vs. Nate Marquardt (32-11-2) (Welterweight)
Chris Camozzi (18-5) vs. Nick Ring (13-1) (Middleweight)
Mike Ricci (7-3) vs. Colin Fletcher (8-2) (Lightweight)

Preliminary card (FX)

Patrick Cote (18-8) vs. Bobby Voelker (24-8) (Welterweight)
Darren Elkins (15-2) vs. Antonio Carvalho (15-5) (Featherweight)
Dan Miller (14-6) vs. Jordan Mein (26-8) (Welterweight)
Daron Cruickshank (12-2) vs. John Makdessi (10-2) (Lightweight)

Preliminary card (Facebook)

Rick Story (14-6) vs. Quinn Mulhern (18-2) (Welterweight)
T.J. Dillashaw (6-1) vs. Issei Tamura (7-3) (Bantamweight)
George Roop (12-9-1) vs. Reuben Duran (8-4-1) (Bantamweight)

Other

- A rematch between Alessio Sakara and Patrick Cote, from UFC 154, was briefly linked to this event. However, Sakara was forced out of the bout due to renal stress.
- Sean Pierson was expected to face Rick Story at the event. However, Pierson pulled out of the bout citing an injury and was replaced by Quinn Mulhern.
- Rory MacDonald was originally scheduled to face Carlos Condit in a rematch. However, on February 18, it was announced that MacDonald pulled out of the bout citing a neck injury. Condit will now face Johny Hendricks, who was pulled from his bout with Jake Ellenberger. Ellenberger will now face returning veteran Nate Marquardt.
- Mitch Gagnon was expected to face Issei Tamura at the event. However, Gagnon was forced out of the bout with an injury and was replaced by T.J. Dillashaw.
- Johnny Eduardo was expected to face Yves Jabouin at the event. However, on March 6, Eduardo was forced to pull out of the bout citing a shoulder injury. Jabouin was then pulled from the card as a suitable replacement could not be found on short notice.

^ MUST LISTEN!

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Gun to the head picks

• GSP > Diaz (I have GSP in some parlays, but will be betting Diaz straight up and also some props for Diaz to finish ITD or by submission.)
• Condit > Hendricks (Already have a few bets on Condit.)
• Marquardt > Ellenberger (Already have a few bets on Marquardt.)
• Camozzi > Ring (We only need to worry about the Canadian judges, Ring has been gifted 3 decision wins by them in the past.)
• Ricci > Fletcher (Ricci is the better skilled fighter, but his line is WAY too high and I'll be betting Fletcher after Ricci's line climbs more.)
• Voelker > Cote (Cote has some new sick-in shape body that we have seen in recent videos, but having a nice body won't change the fact that he sucks ass and Voelker is a grinder and keeps coming forward.)
• Elkins > Carvalho
• Mein > Miller
• Makdessi > Cruickshank
• Story vs. Mulhern (Undecided atm)
• Dillashaw > Tamura
• Roop > Duran

hope nick and GSP are at full power, curious how nick could win

Super biased nick diaz hater. Hope George shows this punk what's up.

Really looking forward to the lineup.

War Diaz!

GSP > Diaz. Although I really hope Diaz wins.

Hendricks > Condit. This is an absolute nightmare match-up for Condit. So much value in betting Hendricks imo.

Marquardt > Ellenberger. I just don't think Ellenberger is that good. It's pretty much a coinflip so bet the underdog imo :-

diaz wins.

On March 11 2013 23:09 JonnyCosMo wrote: GSP > Diaz. Although I really hope Diaz wins. Hendricks > Condit. This is an absolute nightmare match-up for Condit. So much value in betting Hendricks imo. Marquardt > Ellenberger. I just don't think Ellenberger is that good. It's pretty much a coinflip so bet the underdog imo :-

I said im going to listen to Cosmo, sportsbook roll on a Hendricks & GSP parlay.

On March 11 2013 23:09 JonnyCosMo wrote: #1 GSP > Diaz. Although I really hope Diaz wins. #2 Hendricks > Condit. This is an absolute nightmare match-up for Condit. So much value in betting Hendricks imo. #3 Marquardt > Ellenberger. I just don't think Ellenberger is that good. It's pretty much a coinflip so bet the underdog imo :-

I agree with #1.
I don't agree with #2.
I agree with #3.

To follow up on #2: The comment you made is actually the opposite of what me and most others are saying, even all or almost all MMA media outlets. Condit is Hendricks nightmare match up, in that Condit has the height, reach, striking, and BJJ advantage, and he's shown us he can go 3+ rounds with no problem.

You might think, well, Hendricks just needs to touch Condit once on the chin and also is a great wrestler. It's true that Hendricks has that 1 punch KO power, but when does he ever use his wrestling in his fights? He even said in a response to Nick Diaz last week when Diaz said that people just want to take you down nowadays and hold you there to get the win without doing anything, Hendricks replied with, "when do you ever see me using wrestling in any of my matches, etc. I'm not afraid to stand."

I had zero problems taking Condit at +125 when the line was released, as I see him having more tools to win this fight.

Yea thinking Condit too. Not sure though, Hendricks might decide to wrestle and take a decision.

I'm thinking of betting Nick by sub but I'm really not sure if that's good. Hard for him to win.

I really want nick diaz to win.
Nick always brings it ! He doesnt care who you are he just walks into your face and starts a war.
I love him !
But i just think it cant happen.
George will get some points by lowkicking a bit and then takedown and wrestlefuck Diaz

I think GSP's BJJ and top control are too good to let Nick sub him from the bottom. If Nick can bait him in to brawling then he could rock him and finish with a sub though.

GSP is going to kill Nick Diaz, Cant see Diaz winning this. Another good bet is Condit at +105.
I am going to bet a parlay GSP+Condit = +146.

Ring didnt good look in last presentations, a bet in Camozzi is also good IMO. Maybe I will bet on Ellenberger also.

On March 11 2013 23:48 PuertoRican wrote: Show nested quote + On March 11 2013 23:09 JonnyCosMo wrote: #1 GSP > Diaz. Although I really hope Diaz wins. #2 Hendricks > Condit. This is an absolute nightmare match-up for Condit. So much value in betting Hendricks imo. #3 Marquardt > Ellenberger. I just don't think Ellenberger is that good. It's pretty much a coinflip so bet the underdog imo :- I agree with #1. I don't agree with #2. I agree with #3. To follow up on #2: The comment you made is actually the opposite of what me and most others are saying, even all or almost all MMA media outlets. Condit is Hendricks nightmare match up, in that Condit has the height, reach, striking, and BJJ advantage, and he's shown us he can go 3+ rounds with no problem. You might think, well, Hendricks just needs to touch Condit once on the chin and also is a great wrestler. It's true that Hendricks has that 1 punch KO power, but when does he ever use his wrestling in his fights? He even said in a response to Nick Diaz last week when Diaz said that people just want to take you down nowadays and hold you there to get the win without doing anything, Hendricks replied with, "when do you ever see me using wrestling in any of my matches, etc. I'm not afraid to stand." I had zero problems taking Condit at +125 when the line was released, as I see him having more tools to win this fight.

Yes, Condit does have the striking and reach advantage. The problem is his TDD is just sooo fucking bad. Like inexcusably bad. And with the fight only being 3 rounds, this is not something that he will be able to come back from once he drops 2 rounds due to the takedowns he's given away. Maybe I'd like Condit in a 5 round fight? Yea Hendricks doesn't use his wrestling much, mainly because he really hasn't needed to. His hardest fight to date was vs Koscheck where they basically nullified each others wrestling. I feel like he definitely was going to use his wrestling vs Kampmann but KO'd him before they got to that part. Hendricks hasn't really faced enough adversity on the feet to force him to use his wrestling.

There is just a very obvious blueprint already out on how to beat Carlos Condit. GSP did it for 5 rounds, Rory was on his way to doing it before he got caught. Ellenberger didn't do it enough. Dong-Hyun Kim didn't get a chance to do it. Hendricks is very capable of using this wrestling heavy strategy to get the W. So what if we haven't seen it from him yet. It's just such a clear way to victory for him, it'd be retarded for him not to use it.

That's kind of why I don't want to bet Diaz here. There seems to be a blueprint on how to beat the Diaz bros, involving heavy dose of leg kicks and wrestling combo. GSP is too smart to overlook this. This will be an easy fight for him, unless he gets caught.

Diaz is a better boxer than GSP
GSP is better in everything else....

Only chance for Diaz would be if GSP decides to box him.....
But GSP is one of the smartest and most focused fighters out there.
He will never start a boxing match vs Diaz

And Diaz wont submit him from the bottom
GSPs Top game is so much preassure .... Nick wont be able to do shit from the bottom

On March 12 2013 14:59 PplusAD wrote: Diaz is a better boxer than GSP

I respectfully disagree with that. GSP has much better movement, takes angles, and sets things up better. Nick just plods forward and throws a zillion punches. Nick is a better brawler and if GSP lets him bang then Nick would win, but GSP won't let him bang. GSP could dance around and outpoint him all night.

On March 12 2013 15:22 SleepyHead wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2013 14:59 PplusAD wrote: Diaz is a better boxer than GSP I respectfully disagree with that. GSP has much better movement, takes angles, and sets things up better. Nick just plods forward and throws a zillion punches. Nick is a better brawler and if GSP lets him bang then Nick would win, but GSP won't let him bang. GSP could dance around and outpoint him all night.

I think you've got no clue what good boxing is if you think Nick just plods forward and throws a zillion random punches. He takes angles that others don't, punches consistently to the body which MMA fighters so rarely do, and uses times to throw half strength but accurate punches so he doesn't leave himself open. What he is weak at standing up is, in boxing terms, closing off the ring/octagon to those who strike and move away....as Condit displayed vs Nick. He's actually pretty terrible at it I think. GSP's boxing has improved but it's still just mostly based off just jabbing then using his superior athleticism to move away after or change levels to get the takedown. So basically, Nick's boxing is definitely better...usually his cardio is an advantage but GSP is so greatly conditioned that probably won't be an advantage...which leaves just his jiu jitsu after boxing...but I think GSP's athleticism and wrestling smarts are going to be too much for Nick to threaten GSP off his back with submissions. I'm a big Diaz homer but I don't even think he has a 1 in 4 shot as the odds dictate right now if GSP just plays it safe and boring every round. If GSP for some reason goes nuts and stands with Nick for the whole fight or goes reckless trying to finish ground and pound on the ground leaving himself open for an arm bar or something, then....I'd be pretty happy, as I will be making a little fat homer bet on Nick hoping he shows up in his best performance or GSP gets reckless.

As for Condit vs Hendricks, I don't really buy Hendricks being such a terrible matchup for Condit but maybe I just don't know. Maybe I haven't seen enough of Hendricks besides his KO's. Kampmann, as good and resilient as he is, gets clocked hard like every f'in fight so that really wasn't a surprise as some may have thought. I'm of the opinion that Condit can play a distance game with his kicks and pull out a decision especially over just 3 rounds}

On March 12 2013 15:22 SleepyHead wrote: .... Nick just plods forward and throws a zillion punches. ...

haha if that was true than Wing Tzun or how that shit is written would actually work in a fight
There is a lot more to Nicks punches than just high frequency.
Its mostly high frequency combined with very odd timings of body -> head -> body (and also his strikes in generel are slightly off- of what you would expect) and very confusing accentuation of punches. (like hard , soft ,soft, hard hard, soft soft soft hard etc... )

Its difficult to see and i am not sure if i can explain right.
Its just very very difficult to deal with Nicks striking in an open brawl since its very slightly off to everything you expect as a figher.
You somehow get hit when u think u block the punch and cant figure out why + some of the punches hurt more than they should and some of the punches that you think will hurt barely touch etc ...

Thats why most fighters cant handle Diaz boxing at all.
They are like wtf is this shit i cant figure out what he is doing ???

Even some of the best MMA strikers like Paul Daley or BJ Penn coudn't do shit with how Diaz throws his strikes since they cant figure out what exactly and why things hit them + what and when and why the get hit the next few seconds.
Nick definitely is an artist in that kind of area and nobody in MMA except for Anderson Silva (Anderson has nicks boxing + much better footwork and kicks) is on his level concerning this

Georges Boxing style is totally different though.
GSP throws stiff jabs from far away while moving in and out fast and good . He is creating lots of angles due to heavy use of footwork.
Thats more like how you would learn ABC boxing at a MMA school nowadays.
George is very good at Abc Striking.

Diaz Boxing is nothing like ABC

So i admit its difficult to compare.
In my own opinion Diaz is the better boxer allthough he doesnt do any abc striking

On March 12 2013 16:35 PplusAD wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2013 15:22 SleepyHead wrote: .... Nick just plods forward and throws a zillion punches. ... haha if that was true than Wing Tzun or how that shit is written would actually work in a fight There is a lot more to Nicks punches than just high frequency. Its mostly high frequency combined with very odd timings of body -> head -> body (and also his strikes in generel are slightly off- of what you would expect) and very confusing accentuation of punches. (like hard , soft ,soft, hard hard, soft soft soft hard etc... ) Its difficult to see and i am not sure if i can explain right. Its just very very difficult to deal with Nicks striking in an open brawl since its very slightly off to everything you expect as a figher. You somehow get hit when u think u block the punch and cant figure out why + some of the punches hurt more than they should and some of the punches that you think will hurt barely touch etc ... Thats why most fighters cant handle Diaz boxing at all. They are like wtf is this shit i cant figure out what he is doing ??? Even some of the best MMA strikers like Paul Daley or BJ Penn coudn't do shit with how Diaz throws his strikes since they cant figure out what exactly and why things hit them + what and when and why the get hit the next few seconds. Nick definitely is an artist in that kind of area and nobody in MMA except for Anderson Silva (Anderson has nicks boxing + much better footwork and kicks) is on his level concerning this Georges Boxing style is totally different though. GSP throws stiff jabs from far away while moving in and out fast and good . He is creating lots of angles due to heavy use of footwork. Thats more like how you would learn ABC boxing at a MMA school nowadays. George is very good at Abc Striking. Diaz Boxing is nothing like ABC So i admit its difficult to compare. In my own opinion Diaz is the better boxer allthough he doesnt do any abc striking

Ok well I can't agrue with that

UFC 158 Georges St. Pierre vs. Nick Diaz: The Achilles Heel of Stockton's Pride - by Jack Slack

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/15...-the-achilles-heel-of-stocktons-pride

heres the thing about condit vs hendricks. sure condit has horrible takedown defense, but the fact that hendricks is a great wrestler is meaningless, especially since he rarely uses it. ANYONE can take condit down. yet he manages to win fights despite this deficiency. i think this fight is slightly favoring condit but pretty close to a flip

rofl... This was the first time I've ever heard Nick Ring speak before.

lmao at 6:25 of the video.

His fight vs. Camozzi should be good.

If a comedian was doing an over the top gay Canadian voice it would sound just like that. He sounds more Canadian than he did on TUF.

On March 12 2013 19:29 Daut wrote: heres the thing about condit vs hendricks. sure condit has horrible takedown defense, but the fact that hendricks is a great wrestler is meaningless, especially since he rarely uses it. ANYONE can take condit down. yet he manages to win fights despite this deficiency. i think this fight is slightly favoring condit but pretty close to a flip

There is no way he'd strike 3 rounds vs Condit.

I mean, if he does... he's fucking retarded and deserves to lose -_-;;

On March 13 2013 04:13 JonnyCosMo wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2013 19:29 Daut wrote: heres the thing about condit vs hendricks. sure condit has horrible takedown defense, but the fact that hendricks is a great wrestler is meaningless, especially since he rarely uses it. ANYONE can take condit down. yet he manages to win fights despite this deficiency. i think this fight is slightly favoring condit but pretty close to a flip There is no way he'd strike 3 rounds vs Condit. I mean, if he does... he's fucking retarded and deserves to lose -_-;;

This.

I feel that Condit is more of a killer (despite the Diaz-fight) but Hendricks has better tools.

re: Diaz a guy I know and did some BJJ with a few years back who's friendly with some UFC fighters and such described Diaz boxing as:

"He hits you with all these stupid punches that doesn't look hard and you think you can take it but before you know it you're rocked and there's nothing you can do about it"

think GSP might be too smart to get caught up in that game though.

On March 12 2013 19:29 Daut wrote: heres the thing about condit vs hendricks. sure condit has horrible takedown defense, but the fact that hendricks is a great wrestler is meaningless, especially since he rarely uses it. ANYONE can take condit down. yet he manages to win fights despite this deficiency. i think this fight is slightly favoring condit but pretty close to a flip

To be fair in regards to Hendricks rarely using his wrestling, most of his fights in the UFC have been against pretty high level wrestlers. I mean his last 8 fights were Brenneman, Story, TJ Waldburger, Pierce, Fitch, Kos, Kampmann. That's a pretty murderous row of guys with good wrestling.

Only guys I've seen him face in the UFC who's wrestling I'm not sure about he KO'd in the 1st round in Sodallah & Waldberger.

Also not a very reliable source but Joe Rogan was talking up Hendricks BJJ game saying it's very good and he taps high level people in the gym on the reg.

Will be interesting to see his game plan and fight IQ though.

has Joe Rogan ever not praised someones BJJ ?
Every single UFC fighter is a very high level BJJ guy with some serious technique in Joe Rogans eye

If one fighter lays on his back not moving at all and another fighter simply walks around his legs and goes to sidemount
-> Jore Rogan is like : OMG have u seen this pass ? This guy has excellent passes and has trained Jiu Jitsu with very high level guys !

yea its likely hendricks does use his wrestling, especially with marc laimon in his corner screaming at him to do so, but condit is like the complete opposite of anderson silva when it comes to his wrestling. anderson has GREAT takedown defense, but once hes down he stays there forever and never gets back up. whereas condit is very easy to take down but very good at scrambling and getting back to his feet.

rory, kampmann, DHK, gsp all took him down repeatedly but he would get back up a lot and fight. if you rewatch the rory fight the first 2 rounds were EXTREMELY close but they were rory's rounds. the kampmann fight also extremely close against a man who has never been outgrappled by anyone. and DHK he just popped back up and smashed against a guy who is usually a total blanket.

so he will keep getting back up or maybe sweeping and hendricks would have to be really intent on wrestling the whole fight to stay motivated to keep going for the takedowns. its def possible and its the reason i wont be betting the fight. i learned a long time ago to never bet on what you think a fighters gameplan should be, but to bet on what a fighter has done in his career. i cant rely on hendricks using a gameplan we think he should use, i cant rely on condit outstriking while being taken down 8 times and still getting the win on judges scorecards, i just have to pass on the fight.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/15...hotel-in-2011-led-to-fight-at-ufc-158

"Georges St-Pierre, I talked to him last week, he said 'Dana, you have no idea what I'm going to do to this kid, I wanna make him retire'," said White.

On March 13 2013 18:59 Highcard wrote: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/15...hotel-in-2011-led-to-fight-at-ufc-158 "Georges St-Pierre, I talked to him last week, he said 'Dana, you have no idea what I'm going to do to this kid, I wanna make him retire'," said White.

Inb4 GSP winning by decision.

On March 13 2013 20:21 TheHuHu3 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2013 18:59 Highcard wrote: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/15...hotel-in-2011-led-to-fight-at-ufc-158 "Georges St-Pierre, I talked to him last week, he said 'Dana, you have no idea what I'm going to do to this kid, I wanna make him retire'," said White. Inb4 GSP winning by decision.

Diaz loses via cut, otherwise known as a TKO by cut.

The odds of GSP and Diaz winning before decision are prolly the same lol.

I still think Diaz beat Condit btw

Diaz bleeds easily, and GSP used to have some good elbows inside the guard.

Also, look at Diaz's face at the end of the Condit fight. It was a mixture of him having weak skin and getting hit. He also lost by cut back in the day against K.J. Noons.

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On March 14 2013 02:26 JonnyCosMo wrote: I still think Diaz beat Condit btw

the flurries in the first couple rounds and the back take in round 5 were the most significant moments of the fight, but condit won 95% of the rest of the fight and exposed diaz's movement as a big problem. diaz moves forward and backward without cutting angles. he has great hands and timing but his movement is the problem.



roach sees the problems with diaz and even though hes biased for the guys he works with he is right. condit used angles to basically pick away at diaz all fight. we have seen many parts of diaz's game exposed before: his weak wrestling, his inability to deal with legkicks well (cyborg santos of all people exposed this), and now his angles?

what does GSP do well: wrestling, grappling, his angles with boxing. looking at his striking in the past ~9 fights, the only moment he struggled or faced any adversity was the condit headkick. not something he has to worry about vs diaz. all he has to do is stick and move out at angles, use his wrestling effectively and not get subbed. everyone knows diaz is fucked in this fight for sure, but i think hes in big trouble in all future fights vs great fighters. he has too many weaknesses that people can exploit and all they have to do is avoid what hes great at. dont let him get top position and dont box or brawl with him. thats it

How far do you think Condit walked backwards while fighting Diaz? 1 mile? More?

At the beginning of every UFC event they have the thing explaining what judges score fights on: Effective striking, grappling, aggression, and octagon control. You can only give Condit one of those things over Diaz (Effective striking). If MMA judges start scoring aggression and octagon control correctly there is no way Condit ever should win that fight. Saying Condit should win a fight like that would be similar to saying Guida shoulda beaten Maynard. Fighters who trot backwards the entire fight are losing the fight.

Aggression = "The practice of making assaults or attacks."

Both men were attacking each other, the difference was that one man was able to land more strikes.

Diaz talking shit and throwing his hands up isn't going to win him points on a score card as being aggressive.

As for Guida, if he actually landed multiple significant strikes then he would have won. His fight vs. Maynard was way more extreme than Condit/Diaz, as Diaz showed the wear on his face in the post fight interview that I posted already in a previous reply.

On March 14 2013 09:01 JonnyCosMo wrote: How far do you think Condit walked backwards while fighting Diaz? 1 mile? More? At the beginning of every UFC event they have the thing explaining what judges score fights on: Effective striking, grappling, aggression, and octagon control. You can only give Condit one of those things over Diaz (Effective striking). If MMA judges start scoring aggression and octagon control correctly there is no way Condit ever should win that fight. Saying Condit should win a fight like that would be similar to saying Guida shoulda beaten Maynard. Fighters who trot backwards the entire fight are losing the fight.

agree i thought diaz won the fight, but i can see why they gave it to condit b/c he landed a lot of clean (but weak) strikes. so, by a point system they "had" to give it to condit.

I think diaz beats the fuck out of gsp and another huge underdog cashes

On March 14 2013 09:01 JonnyCosMo wrote: How far do you think Condit walked backwards while fighting Diaz? 1 mile? More?

i know its just semantics, but if condit had really run backwards diaz would have killed him. diaz murders people who move straight forwards and backwards. but if you cut out at angles he gets confused and doesnt ever adjust.

agression =/= octagon control

Enjoying the discussions so far and i can't wait for this event. Railing for GSP.
How do the fighters cut weight and gain it back so fast? What is their diet and exercise like pre-fight? Rory MacDonald comes to mind. Is there some sort of performance enhancing drug that does this? I know it is mostly water but there has to be more science to it.

GSP uses hot water immersion rather than the standard sauna route.
I imagine carb and sodium intake have to be pretty important components of the weight cut but take that with a grain of sait, I've also heard some people claim they use colonic irrigation but they might have been full of shit.

That is how u gain some of the weight back over night
rest of it just drink and eat healthy and a lot after weight ins are over.

Cutting weight everyone has different styles.

The basic task is to get water out of your body as much as you can without feeling weak and slow.

Johny Hendricks striking write up by Jack Slack: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/15...ricks-just-another-one-handed-slugger


Excerpt: "Even if his opponents don't attempt to counter Hendricks' overhand left, they should at least know that he is limited enough that if they simply circle away from it, he will be stumped for ideas while they are put in a better position to land their own punches.

If there is one thing Carlos Condit has shown that he knows how to do, it is circle away from a southpaw's left hand. For all the talk of him running from Nick Diaz, he simply ruthlessly exploited a basic fault in Diaz's boxing fundamentals over and over.

If Hendricks can get Condit to stand in front of his left hand, with right hands or low kicks he will have shown massive improvement and potential for championship level growth as a fighter. If Condit is simply able to move away from Hendricks all night, we will have to re-evaluate Hendricks' potential at this stage in his career."

Press conference delivers.

Indeed.
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Much like the last episode of Survior.

dbl post accident

Every time Nick opens his mouth, his give businesses another reason to not sponsor him. Guy has 10 words in his total vocabulary and takes him 5 minutes to get a simple point across. He constantly contradicts himself and whines about not getting the respect he deserves.

Doesn't get any more hero-vs-villain than this.

I'll be routing for GSP like a 6 year old watching pro wrestling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=36YMvdgOZFE#t=1503s


25:17

Lmao

what's 5dimes betting limits for GSP/Diaz fight?

On March 15 2013 00:56 whamm! wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=36YMvdgOZFE#t=1503s 25:17 Lmao

? whats at 25:17 ?

EDIT:
Now i saw it ^^ Guy in the front acting all psycho

--- Nuked ---

GSP is going to destroy Nick and I can't wait for it

On March 16 2013 07:04 sam4125 wrote: UFC 158 Live Stream: St-Pierre vs. Diaz is an upcoming mixed martial arts event to be held by the Ultimate Fighting Championship on March 16, 2013 at the Bell Centre in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. http://ufc158livestream.manifo.com/ <------ Looks like a trap http://ufc158livestream.tumblr.com/ <------ Looks like a trap

No thanks, buddy.

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ok i bet 5.5U on GSP, 3U on Condit, 2U on Voelker, 3U on Ring, 1.5U onRoop, only guy i've heard of is GSP though i hope i make some money.

The Facebook prelims start in 1 hour and 10 minutes from now: http://www.facebook.com/UFC/app_247211121995467

You can also watch the Facebook prelims on YouTube:

Just bet on GSP + Condit parlay dont like a whole lot else

Pls give a stream for matches after facebook ones
Listening to Diaz makes me lose braincells. Doesnt matter he takes insane amount of hits in the head a guy in his position should be able to respond well to the media without repeating "you know uhhh... you knoww pffff" 60% of the time

On March 16 2013 16:36 Jamie217 wrote: Just bet on GSP + Condit parlay dont like a whole lot else

fack, i wanted to do a GSP/Condit/Ring/Roop parlay but GSP bets are maxed (Intertops has shitty limits) time to diversify lol

These are my single bets that I have so far, I'll be making a lot more prior to each fight as well as live betting. I'm not listing my parlays right now cuz it's too much clutter.

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are sherdog updates not working for anyone else?

What type of updates are you referring to?

the play-by-play match updates

nvm working now

Good start with Roop winning !

Sweet finish by Dillashaw.

btw i just started watching TUF a week ago so i got interested in the whole UFC community, at the end of this TUF's season is Bones fighting Sonnen ?
and why the hell are there 60kg categories dafuq

btw anyone know why line on cruickshank has switched from -115 to +115 in past ~8 hrs or so?

Makdessi is Canadian*, and Cruickshank's advantage is his wrestling, even though he has good striking too.

ok but i assume that info was known before? why would it change the line just in the past few hrs?

^ Dunno. I was on Makdessi when the line first opened. If it goes to decision, Makdessi will win.

Cruikshank will have to come forward and be aggressive and try to finish Makdessi. I see Makdessi landing a lot of counter strikes and winning by decision.

alright just thinking about bets to make while im waiting for Cote/Voelker lol. think ill pass i guess

FX prelims: http://www.vipbox.tv/boxing/142591/1/...preliminaries-live-stream-online.html

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Nice performance in rounds 2 and 3 from Makdessi. Got an extra $7 on Makdessi after live betting him after round 1.

when do they stop streaming and go to only PPV?

^ The PPV card starts at 7pm PST / 10pm EST / 21:00 LP.net

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Sick finish by Jordan Mein.

Very nice fights so far.

Sick finishes by both TJ Dillashaw and Mein

Yay~

This is the only time Yves Lavigne has made a call I agree with, and it was actually a bad call for everyone else. xD

[2 Team Parlay] $16.45 to win $15.02
Darren Elkins
Jordan Mein

Diaz just doesn't have the one-punch knockout power he needs. Gonna be interesting though but I think he will just be holding on the entire fight.

R U SRS

HOLY FUCKINGNFDGHFBFD JUDGES FAIL OMFG TILT

wtf i casually wasnt even looking, and then boom they score it like that

fuck canada

Ronda gonna coach the next TUF....rofl UFC really cashing in on her popularity. Men and woman in the house gonna be so much drama.

What was the scoring again?

Cote was NOT going to lose that fight if it went to the judges, I already knew it when I bet multiple bets on Voelker to win inside the distance. I knew the Voelker needed to win ITD or else he was dead in the water.

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[3 Team Parlay] $3.00 to win $161.27 = won

Côté wins by 3 round decision
Makdessi wins by 3 round decision
Dillashaw wins inside distance

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On March 16 2013 21:00 cariadon wrote: What was the scoring again?

29-28 from all 3 judges.

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Main Card: http://www.vipbox.tv/boxing/137678/3/...ierre-vs-diaz-live-stream-online.html

Anyone else getting hiccups with the PR stream link ?

Most countries can watch the ufc events on ufc.tv, maybe you eant to try that, you have to make an account there though. but you can "login via facebook" thats what i have done. good luck

On March 16 2013 21:16 cariadon wrote: Anyone else getting hiccups with the PR stream link ?

Try this one: http://www.coolsport.tv/stream1.html

Click the "stop" button after the page pops up, or it might forward to another page.

link6 seems to work well for me

put 3u on ellenberger...idk..tilt

Sigh... Ricci can't even step it up in his hometown...

Kid looked like he was sparring for 3 rounds, instead of fighting on PPV in the biggest fight he's ever had.

yeah he's gonna get cut after his first loss if he doesn't show massive improvement.

Looked to me like he was feeling superior and just did his job. Wasn't really threatened so he just played it safe. I don't fault him for that. The GSP gym guys look sick strong. Rory MacDonald, Ricci, GSP...

Ugly fight.

Next 3 should be better

Yeah baby, Camozzi gets some justice for the 2 decisions Nick Ring was gifted in Canada.

Camozzi was +500 right before round 3 started.

fml

save me ellenberger

ty +ev tilt bet

On March 16 2013 21:18 PuertoRican wrote: Show nested quote + On March 16 2013 21:16 cariadon wrote: Anyone else getting hiccups with the PR stream link ? Try this one: http://www.coolsport.tv/stream1.html Click the "stop" button after the page pops up, or it might forward to another page.

hey this was working well for me before but now there's an ad blocking a huge chunk of the video middle and also the maximize video button, anything i can do? the same ad was there before but i was able to maximize it earlier.

I stopped adblock manually and got it working that way.

I feel bad for Marquardt, I was hoping he'd win. Oh well...

There's a plastic piece thingy stuck under my F5 key from the last time i took my keyboard apart by unscrewing 18 screws. fml. Rooting for Condit.

edit- nvm got it!

I have adblock so i clicked the icon that is right to the address bar and selected "Don't run on this page." After doing that i got the ads and having closed them i can fullscreen the stream. Depends on the adblock you havei guess.

Did he just say "main event"? :D

wow this rd making up for the rest of the card so far

Awesome 1st round, i have a parlay with GSP and Hendricks, but if Condit wins im not going to be super mad . Condit just such a likeable fighter.

WOW! WHAT A FIGHT

You gotta be fucking kidding me.

Stupid ass Johny Hendricks and his take downs that did NOTHING AT ALL!

i had condit winning...

ya i agree that decision was absolutely horrible. condit def won that but w/e ufc is like the nba lately with these bozo-the-clown decisions

yea i had condit winning on my personal card, but it was obvious no judge would give round 2 to condit. thinking back i dont remember many strikes landing from hendricks but apparently they landed an equal number of strikes that round so i guess it was probably hendricks round with the 4 takedowns.

http://hosteddb.fightmetric.com/fights/index/4221

how was that fight not 5 rounds. huge joke.

sick fight. sucks condit lost tho lolz

if GSP wins i can still be +0.5U for the card lol :|

awesome fight, to bad judges were ultra noobs, no way the araber guy won that. Hope Dana does something, gogo fix

Hendricks and Condit class acts. Enjoyed the fight.

i personally felt hendricks won round 1&2, but i think if there was a fourth round condit woulda won because he was owning that third round imo.

On March 16 2013 22:58 bigredhoss wrote: sick fight. sucks condit lost tho lolz if GSP wins i can still be +0.5U for the card lol :|

If GSP wins i have a sportsbook roll, if he doesn't i dont :|

time for nick diaz to dethrone thee

foul words !
I expect GSP to be very methodical about this fight. I hope he just comes out of the corner swinging like a silverback.

Also, anyone got a pic of the referee type of person that smears them with grease? You know the one i'm talking about. The indian with a weirdass beard.

On March 16 2013 23:00 Floofy wrote: i personally felt hendricks won round 1&2, but i think if there was a fourth round condit woulda won because he was owning that third round imo.

im mma noob but this was my thought too

War diaz

Diaz is already broken

lame.

exciting... :/

Fuck you gsp. Faggot should fight Silva and eat a knee

wish that was 3 rounds and the fight before 5

i hope GSP gets to finish Nick somehow.

GSP GETTING TAGGED BOYS

PREPARE FOR ROUND 4 GSP

Gsp is really tired tho

GSP slowed down a bit in that round despite pacing himself in the first 2 rounds, I wonder if he was ill coming in? Heard him say before the fight 'if i'm 100% I should win'. Or maybe just a really bad weight cut, he wasn't himself in the press conference

GPS is great to watch but I just feel he loves winning on points too much

sigh so boring. guy would just die if he stood a full 5 mins in any of these rounds

I like GSP, but I just wish Diaz had what it took to take GSP out.

I'm still fucking tilted by that Condit loss.

Diaz boxing looks shit lol

I thought gsp said he was going to be a more entertaining fighter and finish people.. I guess getting head kicked by condit put things in perspective.

diaz bros weakness is so obvious. against strong wrestlers they are just fucked, just get taken down all day. I hope hendrick takes gsp head off.

GSP has been saying he wants finishes to years, this was his least impressive title defense by a LONG way tho.

Good time to hang them up for Diaz, i dont really see him having much success vs top 10 welterweights in the future.

Is Chris Weidman eligible to fight GSP? I don't know about weight classes and stuff but that guy would definitely kill GSP and worthy of a big bet

diaz postfight interview belongs in rofl thread

Why all the animosity towards GSP ? Am i missing something? Nick wanted to make right before retiring, feel bad for him to get an exit like that with all the booing. What an awful crowd. Also, Nick didn't look hungry for the title.
edited a typo

On March 16 2013 23:52 RaiNKhAN wrote: Is Chris Weidman eligible to fight GSP? I don't know about weight classes and stuff but that guy would definitely kill GSP and worthy of a big bet

They're bros so even if he could cut to 170 he'd never fight GSP.

Hendricks. I'd rather watch Condit vs gsp 2

On March 16 2013 23:56 HaiVan wrote: Show nested quote + On March 16 2013 23:52 RaiNKhAN wrote: Is Chris Weidman eligible to fight GSP? I don't know about weight classes and stuff but that guy would definitely kill GSP and worthy of a big bet They're bros so even if he could cut to 170 he'd never fight GSP.

damn. bummer

the same probably applies to anderson silva as well. looks like the hopes of the universe lie on hendricks

Is it me or, looking at both mens, GSP just looks WAY stronger? like much bigger, more muscles, etc.

Yep GSP cuts a bunch of weight and is a huge welterweight, diaz is at least 10lb lighter

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I guess we know the answer to, "WHERE YOU AT GEORGE?!?!?."

George is laying right on top of you, grinding it out.