North Korea Has Gone Completely Insane - Page 3

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21814416

A North Korean propaganda website has warned of strikes against Southern islands and advised residents to leave.

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2013-0...highlighting-bomber-missions-in-korea

The United States is flying nuclear-capable B-52 bombers on training missions over South Korea to highlight Washington's commitment to defend an ally amid rising tensions with North Korea, Pentagon officials said Monday.

On March 16 2013 09:02 goose58 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 11 2013 11:24 dUUd_ wrote:   On March 11 2013 11:14 2c0ntent wrote:   On March 11 2013 11:09 dUUd_ wrote:   On March 11 2013 10:44 goose58 wrote:   On March 11 2013 05:56 VanDerMeyde wrote: I fear how Russia / China will react to this if the situation escalates They won't do shit, and they couldn't if they tried. not sure if serious or trolling A lot of people will say this seriously because the current order of the world's economy is wholly dependent on the US Dollar retaining its position as a store of value (see: every developed country's central bank's dollar reserves) Also China's economy is enormously dependent on America's continued patronage of their output. The whole modern form of the country has been and is still built on dollars. Recall that America also has many allies (see: S.K., the entire EU, Japan) who together with America represent the vast majority of China's customer base, and who would likely cut off trade with whoever America went to war with as a further economic blow. not saying they would just previous poster's second part was like [ "i am all mighty american and these little countries (china and russia) can't do shit against us in war because we are so awesome and have like 3 nuclear weapons and superheros fighting for us" ] might have misread that then my bad. Nice strawman(s). I shouldn't even have to explain this, and it has nothing to do with machoism: -China is our business partner, and NK is their uncontrollable little brother who has it coming. NK is a leech on China. -China is weaker than the USA by far, this is a fact. Every country in the world is weaker than the USA in regards to military power, this is undeniable. You called me the troll..

Many armies have grown to a point where it dosnt matter who is stronger, the devastation would be so big war is simply not an option, exactly like China and USA even if USA ultimately has more firepower that war would end the world as we know it.

I don't know if you guys have been keeping up...

http://live.reuters.com/Event/North_Korea

whats everyone talking about. i thought Rodman was a good choice for basketball coach

Some serious reports coming out... No attacks yet, but jets are in the air apparently on both sides.

I wouldn`t be so sure that US Army can keep up with North Korea so easily, You never fought against such army like NK, these are not muslims on camels, hiding in the mountains, or Vietkong army using guns that last Imperor left them. Last serious war was like WWII, do not forget that Allies had like 6 biggest back then countries fighting together for years, with 1 lunatic from Austra, and some crazy midgets from Japan, who thought that whole Pacific can be taken away. In NK these guys really believe what they are doing, gun power is massive, and they are trained almost like shaolin monks... just sayin, if NK will go to war, Vietnam and 1st round in Iraq was nothing compare to this, and you never know what Iran can do, China and Russia are not threat at all, but there are some other crazy folks that can use a bit of chaos

Not payed any attention to this, but got a question. If North Korea attacks the us, or something like that. Won't the rest of the world all chip in and attack North Korea?

On March 29 2013 08:09 suited_mess wrote: I wouldn`t be so sure that US Army can keep up with North Korea so easily, You never fought against such army like NK, these are not muslims on camels, hiding in the mountains, or Vietkong army using guns that last Imperor left them. Last serious war was like WWII, do not forget that Allies had like 6 biggest back then countries fighting together for years, with 1 lunatic from Austra, and some crazy midgets from Japan, who thought that whole Pacific can be taken away. In NK these guys really believe what they are doing, gun power is massive, and they are trained almost like shaolin monks... just sayin, if NK will go to war, Vietnam and 1st round in Iraq was nothing compare to this, and you never know what Iran can do, China and Russia are not threat at all, but there are some other crazy folks that can use a bit of chaos

Although they have the 4th largest army military, they're weaponry considering the size of the country's military isn't much. Also Id be interested to see how many north Koreans would defect given the chance, ww2 we were pretty much fighting China - and it seems like if nk attacks, even they will be left to consider military action IMO.

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" ww2 we were pretty much fighting China " ?what... there is a difference between China and Japan, China was stayin at their own territory only worried about Japan, since they were doing that, they were on your side pretty much, reading does not hurt

On March 29 2013 10:26 2c0ntent wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2013 09:43 Mariuslol wrote: Not payed any attention to this, but got a question. If North Korea attacks the us, or something like that. Won't the rest of the world all chip in and attack North Korea? No, there isn't much of a reason to suspect that anyone except for members of the developed western trade bloc(1) would join in. (1) in spoiler + Show Spoiler + (1) "developed western trade bloc" : developed countries with financialized economies that are deeply integrated into the U.S.A.'s trade goods network(a) such as the U.K., Germany, other euros (non-russian), Japan. (a) "trade goods network" : petroleum, technology trade, money commodity (U.S. dollar), other tradeable things I say this because of my principle that the continuing viability of a country's present economy is the biggest decision driver for Nations.

If NK ATTACKS USA, i really doubt Canada won't help.

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On March 29 2013 13:14 suited_mess wrote: " ww2 we were pretty much fighting China " ?what... there is a difference between China and Japan, China was stayin at their own territory only worried about Japan, since they were doing that, they were on your side pretty much, reading does not hurt

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Which_side_did_China_take_in_World_War_2

On March 29 2013 13:16 2c0ntent wrote: I agree, Canada definitely falls into the category of deeply integrated economies

It also depends a bit on the governement, and what war it is exactly.

I think back when Jean Chretien was prime minister, they didn't join in the Bush craziness of invading Irak for no real reasons. That was mostly because canadians were opposed to it, and even UN was against it.

But now i think its a different scenario... Harper is pretty pro war, and if a war between USA/NK started i think its pretty clear it would be NK's fault now (hence why i doubt Russia/China would do anything). There's also probably a massive difference between NK declaring the war and USA declaring the war. If NK declare it i'm pretty sure tons of countries will support USA, and most likely none will defend NK.

ANyways i am not very worried about USA (really doubt NK can scatch them), i am much more worried for South Korea. Its such an amazing country with amazing people, hope they're ok, because its obvious NK is able to hurt them.

Why has the world even entertained NK for so long?
Why are we just waiting for cancer to become malignant, bigger and dangerous?

Was never a fan of war in Afghanistan and Iraq but doesn't Iraq provide an example of how much damage and suffering could be avoided if they just finished the job in Kuwait?

Vietnam?

Cuba?

The reason the world (mostly China/Russia/etc) isn't just going to say "sure lets get rid of NK" is the same reason USA won't go "sure lets get rid of Israel". Those small countries kinda help balance the powers between the major powers in the world. If countries like Iran and NK were taken out, the power of USA/Nato/etc would be so much bigger that countries like Russia/China would get scared. Peace is maintained mostly because both sides really do not wish a war right now, since damage would be so major we would all die, but if usa takes out all small ennemies, and really get a good anti nuclear defense, then it will be scary for Russia/China. Not saying USA would declare war on them, but imagine the opposite happened (China took out all our small allies, and started getting a big anti nuclear defense), that would be scary.

On March 29 2013 20:04 mnj wrote: Why has the world even entertained NK for so long? Why are we just waiting for cancer to become malignant, bigger and dangerous? Was never a fan of war in Afghanistan and Iraq but doesn't Iraq provide an example of how much damage and suffering could be avoided if they just finished the job in Kuwait? Vietnam? Cuba?

North Korea isn't a cancer. Cancer's spread. All countries hope to be cancers but only the most powerful ones achieve cancer.
Maybe it's becoming more dangerous, but the danger of invading NK far outweighs the danger of doing nothing. Like all countries, it will eventually collapse.

Believe it or not, some people really do have a moral compass, and all this war mongering sensationalism that people see in America is kinda proven false, since we arent going around taking over countries at our whim. Hitler would have done away with NK a long time ago. The USA? We actually dont want that.

/in b4 baseless accusations about 9/11 retaliation or taking all of Iraq's oil while I pay $4.20/gallon at the pump.

mbn paying 4.20/ galon
T.T