Nl500 Live KK 4 ways

And he probably flats nothing on the flop; draws top pair whatever he wants to go with the pot is big enough that he is putting it in right there.

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lmao wat do you want him to do wiht JJ? check fold? LOL

On March 17 2013 13:35 traxamillion wrote: Lol him jamming JJ is not a bluff...

On February 08 2013 21:51 chrusher97 wrote: This is why limp reraising is bad. Everybody knows exactly what you have and its ez for them to play perfect against u. Also I'm pretty sure he does have setmining odds closing the action preflop after 2 ppl already called

that can't be the reason why limp/reraising is bad... if u really believe that then just frequently limp/raise as a bluff without doing it too often and make tons of money

Well in my experience from 99% of live players it is always qq+ and its because they are scared to play postflop, making the type of player who limp reraises very unlikely to be doing it as a bluff.


I never tried but I think trying to balance it would not be a good idea because you are putting lots of money in from utg especially in deeper games bigger than 2/5

Seems to me like its good if you can exploit the majority of your opponents one way or another (either they give it too much credit, or not enough credit). If your opponents are a mixed bag (typical) then you get yourself into some bad situations bluffing this way

lol omg you folded ;(

maybe move down in stakes if you playing scared money like this.

On April 25 2013 07:32 YoMeR wrote: lol omg you folded ;( maybe move down in stakes if you playing scared money like this.

cant go putting in over 300e, then fold, crazy spew.

Really hard to say without knowing too much about the players, ive been playing 21 days straight 2-5nl e, and it depends so much. Even the nits are calling like crazy, just harder to notice since it goes so slow in live, but they are calling stations too, most of them I feel.

I also hate limping good hands, never do it, don't get the logic, maybe if the good is really good for it, and people always start raising and building huge pots. But not unless some specific dynamic.

If the guy had JJ, the hand would probably have gone, you make it 20e, or 25, u get 2 callers, and the JJ guy, repops it to around 80e, a little more or less, I don't know. Get to you, you think for 7 - 11 seconds, then you repop him, making it around 250 or something, now u get AK with as well, and the JJ will ship all in, and you shove, and you have KK vs AK vs JJ, free moneyz yay.


As play, get it in on that flop yay.

I tried to take a different approach to the game. Instead of saying omg i have so much money in the pot i have KK jam!, I wanted to get inside the head of these live players and see what they would really do. I profiled him as one of those tight passive players(like 99.5% of live players) and in position with two players in front of him, would flat draws and see turn with 500 left behind after calling... and shove of course made hands. I guess i tried to be too fancy and "soulread" as the saying goes? Left out he could have JJ as part of his range and of course its the hand he has =[. BTW saying "jamming JJ as bluff" was not my words it was his rofl. he showed his hand after i folded as thats what he said. this hand still haunts me till this day. So the moral of this story children is; dont fold your sets online and dont fold big pocket pairs lives.

Bet sizing fucked u up. I would've made it 165-175 pre after the raise-calls, if u still get called in 3 spots then shove that flop. If any of em hit a set, fuck it, reload. Check/folding KKs here... might as well wear a 'IM A PUSSY' sign on your forehead and get bulldozed for the remainder of the session.

true dat. i always try and bet smaller to make myself look weaker or because some of them are more likely to crying call a weaker bet? i might be over thinking things or maybe truely everyone knows stronger is weak and weak is strong.

On May 19 2013 20:02 JohnnyBologna wrote: true dat. i always try and bet smaller to make myself look weaker or because some of them are more likely to crying call a weaker bet? i might be over thinking things or maybe truely everyone knows stronger is weak and weak is strong.

Extra reason to snap! If you are making them read you wrong.
You made yourself look weak!
So 10 9 might shove and 2 hearts and so on...

On March 15 2013 20:39 JohnnyBologna wrote: Well he had JJ and turned it into a bluff. I really wasnt expecting that rofl. Coulda won 1800 dollar pot. Last time i get tricky. Bet 200 to try and get original raiser to come in cuz i put him on qq or jj.

Coulda? So you folded? Live poker, it hurts your brain .

On February 08 2013 21:51 chrusher97 wrote: This is why limp reraising is bad. Everybody knows exactly what you have and its ez for them to play perfect against u. Also I'm pretty sure he does have setmining odds closing the action preflop after 2 ppl already called

His reasoning for limp/raising KK (his limp always got raised + bad players) make perfect sense imo. And even the decent guy couldnt get away from JJ 4way pot so...

Call and cry

On May 16 2013 16:54 JohnnyBologna wrote: I tried to take a different approach to the game. Instead of saying omg i have so much money in the pot i have KK jam!, I wanted to get inside the head of these live players and see what they would really do. I profiled him as one of those tight passive players(like 99.5% of live players) and in position with two players in front of him, would flat draws and see turn with 500 left behind after calling... and shove of course made hands. I guess i tried to be too fancy and "soulread" as the saying goes? Left out he could have JJ as part of his range and of course its the hand he has =[. BTW saying "jamming JJ as bluff" was not my words it was his rofl. he showed his hand after i folded as thats what he said. this hand still haunts me till this day. So the moral of this story children is; dont fold your sets online and dont fold big pocket pairs lives.

I'm all for actively thinking about your game, and as a result improving your game. Here you clearly took it way too far in terms of "being too creative". Just take the solid approach...you stick in 25-35bb pre w 150 bb effective + get it in on almost any non A hi board with KK ====???? and that approach will yield mass profit over time. playing hands like this over time will just rape your winrate. Just try to get a nice solid ABC approach...getting inside their heads and soul reading them is fine and dandy but there are spots where A+B=C pretty clearly...and this is one of those spots.

The pot is near to 540, and you have 665 behind, why not shove in this particular situation with this wet flop?.

I know that you are screaming AA/KK but who cares the pot is juicy