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Achoo   Canada. Oct 22 2012 02:47. Posts 1454 | | |
What's really annoying in this show is that it has a huge potential but it's spoiled by dumb situations/events/weird plot twists/shitty dialogues... I mean it's a zombie apocalypse and the only dude who acts accordingly is Shane who embodies evil in the show. Nonsense, I'd say he's the only one who can receive credit for his behavior. Also end of season 2 was okish and the last episode kind of saved the whole season which was again turning into some dumb psycho drama... Will see season 3 but not much expectations from me |
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 22 2012 03:10. Posts 13257 | | |
^ Everyones role in season 3 seems to have changed. Nobody is annoying so far in the first 2 episodes, and the first 2 episodes were good.
I'm not going to give away what is different, you'll just need to see it for yourself. I can see them getting a 4th season after 2 more episodes, if things continue to be as good.
Also, expect them to be mostly in 1 area during each season. They need some type of home base so that they can do random shit in other places but always have a place to be able to go back to. We wont see them traveling all over the USA in a single season like we saw in season 1, it wont work for a show like it does in a movie. |
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dnagardi   Hungary. Oct 22 2012 04:42. Posts 1779 | | |
good episode only one thing that bugged me is when rick chased that young black kid through the unknown corridors with only a knife and when lori did CPR to a dead body wtf?
oh and when glenn opened the fence to get a female body...why couldnt they just wait for the gang to return and get ricks approval? it was really stupid and dangerous id flame them like shit if i was rick for doing that |
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RaiNKhAN   United States. Oct 22 2012 18:08. Posts 4080 | | |
this episode really was a winner IMO once rick axed the prisoner on top of his head |
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Baalim   Mexico. Oct 23 2012 17:45. Posts 34312 | | |
| | On October 22 2012 01:47 Achoo wrote:
What's really annoying in this show is that it has a huge potential but it's spoiled by dumb situations/events/weird plot twists/shitty dialogues... I mean it's a zombie apocalypse and the only dude who acts accordingly is Shane who embodies evil in the show. Nonsense, I'd say he's the only one who can receive credit for his behavior. Also end of season 2 was okish and the last episode kind of saved the whole season which was again turning into some dumb psycho drama... Will see season 3 but not much expectations from me |
First of all not everybody has FPS syndrome and are able to kill mercilessly loved ones in a zombie apocalypse.
This is an old comic that almost invented the "rules" in a zombie apocalpse, its brilliantly written and unlike most shitty zombie movies they dont take lightly the deterioration of morality in a decaying society, you can see that now Rick is just as Shane, just as Shane told him he would, surviving in that world long enough will make you like that and its what the story is trying to tell.
Funny how Day-Z feels a lot like the walking dead:
- Zombies are scary (way faster and more annoying in Day-Z) but the real danger are the other humans.
- You cant trust anybody, people will pretend to be friendly and follow you to your base, shoot you in the back and steal your shit.
- Its a huge advantage to be in groups, the only way to survive solo is if you are hermit rambo living in the woods |
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Baalim   Mexico. Oct 23 2012 17:50. Posts 34312 | | |
| | On October 22 2012 03:42 dnagardi wrote:
good episode only one thing that bugged me is when rick chased that young black kid through the unknown corridors with only a knife and when lori did CPR to a dead body wtf?
oh and when glenn opened the fence to get a female body...why couldnt they just wait for the gang to return and get ricks approval? it was really stupid and dangerous id flame them like shit if i was rick for doing that |
Rick chasing black guy is very important, it shows that he will kill anybody even "innocent" people who he considers a threat, like Shane wanted to do with the boy in the farm.
CPR was just to add some tension and why would they need rick approval he is the leader not god and he is busy as hell, they were doing a simple task |
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k4ir0s   Canada. Oct 23 2012 19:11. Posts 3483 | | |
| | On October 22 2012 17:08 RaiNKhAN wrote:
this episode really was a winner IMO once rick axed the prisoner on top of his head |
wasn't expecting that at all. I thought they'd drag it out for a few episodes /w that guy |
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chris   United States. Oct 23 2012 19:53. Posts 5511 | | |
im glad they didnt. also i thought it was machete?
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sTrAtO   Mexico. Oct 23 2012 20:14. Posts 5882 | | |
| | On October 15 2012 15:07 PuertoRican wrote:
You should watch the after-show called "The Talking Dead", after the show is over. It's usually on 1 hour after you finish watching the first airing of each episode, so it basically starts at 11pm for Californians. |
I'm pretty sure you've recommended to watch the show after the episode close to 15 times in the different TWD threads |
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sTrAtO   Mexico. Oct 23 2012 20:26. Posts 5882 | | |
| | On October 23 2012 16:50 Baalim wrote:
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On October 22 2012 03:42 dnagardi wrote:
good episode only one thing that bugged me is when rick chased that young black kid through the unknown corridors with only a knife and when lori did CPR to a dead body wtf?
oh and when glenn opened the fence to get a female body...why couldnt they just wait for the gang to return and get ricks approval? it was really stupid and dangerous id flame them like shit if i was rick for doing that |
Rick chasing black guy is very important, it shows that he will kill anybody even "innocent" people who he considers a threat, like Shane wanted to do with the boy in the farm.
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I don't agree with this. If I remember correctly, the black guy run thru the door they recently opened and Rick went ape shit trying to get him in an unexplored territory with no back ups and not a single clue of how to get back. If he was a little smart, he would know that that black guy with absolutely no weapons would die very soon.
I've liked most of things they've done so far to be honest. In Ep1, some things I would do different (not saying this is good for the show obviously): why wouldn't you try to kill most of the walkers thru the fences? you could easily make noise and kill 70% of the zombies that way without risking anything, just maybe some time but in the end you are not going to get harmed and will save energy.
Also, I find it hard to believe that the prisoners stayed there for 10 months without trying to escape and not knowing anything of the situation that was going outside. You would think that a prisoner, who is usually thinking in ways to escape from jail would accomplish it from a cafeteria after having 10 solid free months no? |
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 23 2012 20:53. Posts 13257 | | |
| | On October 23 2012 19:14 sTrAtO wrote:
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On October 15 2012 15:07 PuertoRican wrote:
You should watch the after-show called "The Talking Dead", after the show is over. It's usually on 1 hour after you finish watching the first airing of each episode, so it basically starts at 11pm for Californians. |
I'm pretty sure you've recommended to watch the show after the episode close to 15 times in the different TWD threads
| You're right. I keep reminding people to watch it because it's a must-watch if you regularly watch the main show. They recap the episode with different people from the show and explain why they did something and their thoughts, as well as show a bonus clip for the next episode. Talking Dead and Thronecast (GoT), are 2 after shows worth watching. |
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TheHuHu3   United States. Oct 24 2012 02:06. Posts 5544 | | |
If Rick didn't kill that prisoner with his machete then the momentum this season had would have come to a halt. No mercy.
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RaiNKhAN   United States. Oct 24 2012 02:14. Posts 4080 | | |
| | On October 24 2012 01:06 TheHuHu3 wrote:
If Rick didn't kill that prisoner with his machete then the momentum this season had would have come to a halt. No mercy.
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locoo   Peru. Oct 24 2012 07:02. Posts 4566 | | |
| | On October 23 2012 19:53 PuertoRican wrote:
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You should watch the after-show called "The Talking Dead", after the show is over. It's usually on 1 hour after you finish watching the first airing of each episode, so it basically starts at 11pm for Californians. |
I'm pretty sure you've recommended to watch the show after the episode close to 15 times in the different TWD threads
| You're right. I keep reminding people to watch it because it's a must-watch if you regularly watch the main show. They recap the episode with different people from the show and explain why they did something and their thoughts, as well as show a bonus clip for the next episode. Talking Dead and Thronecast (GoT), are 2 after shows worth watching. |
Got any link to watch Talking Dead online? they don't show it here T_T |
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locoo   Peru. Oct 24 2012 07:07. Posts 4566 | | |
| | On October 22 2012 01:16 PuertoRican wrote:
Yeah, tonights episode was good. Will Wheaton + the guy who played Tomas in tonights episode, are the two guests on The Talking Dead after show.
I'm curious to who was behind the tree toward the end of the episode.
Also, I like the direction that Carl is going this season, he changed from a little bitch in season 1&2 to a younger version of his dad. |
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locoo   Peru. Oct 24 2012 07:12. Posts 4566 | | |
| | On October 23 2012 16:50 Baalim wrote:
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On October 22 2012 03:42 dnagardi wrote:
good episode only one thing that bugged me is when rick chased that young black kid through the unknown corridors with only a knife and when lori did CPR to a dead body wtf?
oh and when glenn opened the fence to get a female body...why couldnt they just wait for the gang to return and get ricks approval? it was really stupid and dangerous id flame them like shit if i was rick for doing that |
Rick chasing black guy is very important, it shows that he will kill anybody even "innocent" people who he considers a threat, like Shane wanted to do with the boy in the farm.
CPR was just to add some tension and why would they need rick approval he is the leader not god and he is busy as hell, they were doing a simple task
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dnagardi   Hungary. Oct 29 2012 06:28. Posts 1779 | | |
interesting episode
i wonder what does the governor want also why does his small army obey him when they probably know hes a psycho
and how can u keep such huge secrets in a 70ppl community? (7ppl were there when they killed the military guys and no one talks to the locals?) |
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PuertoRican   United States. Oct 29 2012 15:56. Posts 13257 | | |
A 70 person group lead by a psycho who is crazy when he's alone, and a nice guy when he's around women and children is similar to a cult leader, which is what he seems to be, minus the false god. The Governor has the community at the palm of his hand and the guys who work security for him know this. The Governor only wants people in his city that he can control, like random people found alone. The military guys posed a threat to the Governors utopian society cuz they were a group who wouldn't conform to the utopian rule and eventually fight back and possibly win. This was talked about in the Talking Dead after-show. |
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Baalim   Mexico. Oct 29 2012 22:51. Posts 34312 | | |
| | On October 23 2012 19:26 sTrAtO wrote:
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On October 23 2012 16:50 Baalim wrote:
| | On October 22 2012 03:42 dnagardi wrote:
good episode only one thing that bugged me is when rick chased that young black kid through the unknown corridors with only a knife and when lori did CPR to a dead body wtf?
oh and when glenn opened the fence to get a female body...why couldnt they just wait for the gang to return and get ricks approval? it was really stupid and dangerous id flame them like shit if i was rick for doing that |
Rick chasing black guy is very important, it shows that he will kill anybody even "innocent" people who he considers a threat, like Shane wanted to do with the boy in the farm.
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I don't agree with this. If I remember correctly, the black guy run thru the door they recently opened and Rick went ape shit trying to get him in an unexplored territory with no back ups and not a single clue of how to get back. If he was a little smart, he would know that that black guy with absolutely no weapons would die very soon.
I've liked most of things they've done so far to be honest. In Ep1, some things I would do different (not saying this is good for the show obviously): why wouldn't you try to kill most of the walkers thru the fences? you could easily make noise and kill 70% of the zombies that way without risking anything, just maybe some time but in the end you are not going to get harmed and will save energy.
Also, I find it hard to believe that the prisoners stayed there for 10 months without trying to escape and not knowing anything of the situation that was going outside. You would think that a prisoner, who is usually thinking in ways to escape from jail would accomplish it from a cafeteria after having 10 solid free months no? |
Walking dead has always tried to show that the real enemy in a society collapsing even is man itself.
Dont you think Shane went even greater distances to kill the escaping guy? He tought he would go to his friends and they would pillage the farm just as Rick probably knew that an ex-convict maybe wanting to avenge his friend is a huge risk to the entire group so risk risked his life in order to not take chances, just like Shane would have... You dont want another Merl hunting your ass.
The whole scene is to show the evolution of Rick, Shane always told him that he only needed time to be like him and he was right, being a leader in such a ruthless environment will turn you inevitably into a monster to our moral standards.
And about them not scaping well.... they are in a prison which isnt easy to escape from and its not like they have shovels and pickaxes on the kitchen in prisons, besides they were the only ones alive surrounded by thousands of flesh eating creatures... i can picture why they didnt escape.
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Baalim   Mexico. Oct 29 2012 23:12. Posts 34312 | | |
| | On October 29 2012 14:56 PuertoRican wrote:
A 70 person group lead by a psycho who is crazy when he's alone, and a nice guy when he's around women and children is similar to a cult leader, which is what he seems to be, minus the false god. The Governor has the community at the palm of his hand and the guys who work security for him know this. The Governor only wants people in his city that he can control, like random people found alone. The military guys posed a threat to the Governors utopian society cuz they were a group who wouldn't conform to the utopian rule and eventually fight back and possibly win. This was talked about in the Talking Dead after-show. |
Sounds ridiculous but playing Day-Z has helped me understand some things like what the Governor did, those guys from the army werent going to give away their weapons and they were a group with enough firepower to be a threat to his position or even the whole town.
They were going to scout for the chopper and probably finding the place and who knows what would happen then, the psycho governor had two choice, gamble and try to reason with them or kill them. |
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