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PplusAD   Germany. Jun 27 2012 14:40. Posts 7182 | | |
I ment its the best german team since 1990
Ofc Spain in 2008/2010 or france in 1998/2000 was better |
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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Jun 27 2012 15:24. Posts 6374 | | |
painful to watch, fags constantly laying on the ground, ronaldo not getting into chances :/ |
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palak   United States. Jun 27 2012 15:24. Posts 4601 | | |
Left work 3hrs early to watch the game...locked myself out of my apartment...fuck |
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spets1   Australia. Jun 27 2012 15:39. Posts 2179 | | |
fucken couldnt get tv to work most of first half, hope 2nd half brings some good action |
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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Jun 27 2012 15:59. Posts 6374 | | |
| | On June 27 2012 14:24 palak wrote:
Left work 3hrs early to watch the game...locked myself out of my apartment...fuck |
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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Jun 27 2012 16:51. Posts 6374 | | |
half of every team would be proly dead after one hockey match, pussies |
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palak   United States. Jun 27 2012 17:20. Posts 4601 | | |
hoorah made in at the start of the 2nd half of extra time |
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spets1   Australia. Jun 27 2012 17:32. Posts 2179 | | | |
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pluzich   . Jun 27 2012 17:33. Posts 828 | | |
| | On June 27 2012 16:20 palak wrote:
hoorah made in at the start of the 2nd half of extra time |
You didnt miss anything, because nothing happened before that. Sometimes I think Spain are being intentionally boring. |
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longple   Sweden. Jun 27 2012 17:43. Posts 4472 | | | |
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ERASA   Germany. Jun 27 2012 18:10. Posts 2440 | | |
Can't wait for italy - germany 
Go pirlo! |
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pluzich   . Jun 27 2012 18:27. Posts 828 | | |
I have been a fan of Spain but if they become the first country in history to win three titles in a row playing like this it will be a truly sad day for football. |
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ERASA   Germany. Jun 27 2012 19:08. Posts 2440 | | |
Were they as boring in the first tournaments, too?
I think i used to like watching spain... maybe it just gets old to see 5 short passes per second 
Feel free to support italy :D |
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johnmagi   Norway. Jun 28 2012 07:48. Posts 1424 | | |
| | On June 27 2012 17:27 pluzich wrote:
I have been a fan of Spain but if they become the first country in history to win three titles in a row playing like this it will be a truly sad day for football. |
Playing like this? What do you mean? |
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Raidern   Brasil. Jun 28 2012 08:16. Posts 4248 | | |
I love the way Spain plays. I just think they are missing someone like Messi to push the ball in. The team is fucking sick, albeit they didn't play that well yesterday. It was very boring, the match had over 50 fouls. |
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| | On June 28 2012 07:16 Raidern wrote:
I love the way Spain plays. I just think they are missing someone like Messi to push the ball in. The team is fucking sick, albeit they didn't play that well yesterday. It was very boring, the match had over 50 fouls. |
They don't miss Messi, they miss Villa. It seems like everyone just forgot about that :S |
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ERASA   Germany. Jun 28 2012 08:52. Posts 2440 | | |
reading the italy-germany thread on tl i might consider getting banned with my 2nd post there :D |
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pluzich   . Jun 28 2012 09:17. Posts 828 | | |
| | On June 28 2012 07:26 jeffv8x_-_16 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 07:16 Raidern wrote:
I love the way Spain plays. I just think they are missing someone like Messi to push the ball in. The team is fucking sick, albeit they didn't play that well yesterday. It was very boring, the match had over 50 fouls. |
They don't miss Messi, they miss Villa. It seems like everyone just forgot about that :S
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No, they miss Messi. With Villa they were considerably better but were not able to score more than 1 goal in majority of the games.
This tiki-taka thing has one big disadvantage for the attacking team. You push the other team back and you suffocate yourself. There is no space. Strikers, the vast majority of them, need space. That's why Torres looks so terrible in this team and Fabregas is much sharper. The center-forward of the Spanish team needs completely different set of skills compared to other, normal teams.
Messi changes the picture because he can take on any number of defenders and he does not need space for that. This dis-balances the defending team because you cannot just stand close to him and semi-mark him like Torres or Negredo. You have to make sure he does not get the ball. This often levels the teams defending against Barcelona to dedicate too much attention to Messi, and someone else just breaks free. So the ability of Messi to play where he has no space creates space for others. The second level is when they dedicate too much attention to the wings and get punished by Messi in the center.
So if you are forcing the other team to park the bus and close the gaps, and you are not planning to score from outside the box (this is standard Spanish/Barcelona setup), you need someone like Messi as false No.9, otherwise you end up with 453 passes, 73% ball possession and 3 shots on target for the whole game. Which is ridiculous.
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spets1   Australia. Jun 28 2012 10:34. Posts 2179 | | |
Basically barca plays same kind of tactic only they have messi, that's why they do much better than spain |
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 28 2012 11:24. Posts 9634 | | |
| | On June 28 2012 07:26 jeffv8x_-_16 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 07:16 Raidern wrote:
I love the way Spain plays. I just think they are missing someone like Messi to push the ball in. The team is fucking sick, albeit they didn't play that well yesterday. It was very boring, the match had over 50 fouls. |
They don't miss Messi, they miss Villa. It seems like everyone just forgot about that :S
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Maybe if that old bastard used Fernando Llorente instead of Torres or lack of center, Villa could recover faster knowing someone thats actually good s on his place
Xavi is usually as sick as Messi, seems like he has a bad european championship tho |
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