On May 08 2012 09:56 D_smart_S wrote:
thank you for bumping the thread with your original post, taco. I love people who hate a thread and keep posting in it and bumping it after 13 pages. What a spirit!
Well I'm sure you've known my middle name is Effort ever since you saw this picture of mine for the 7th time.
This is 8th, IIRC?
On May 08 2012 07:02 nerdonpoker wrote:
Find me the primary source that says its fake? Even if it happens to be "fake" every sentence in the line is FACT.
haven't kept up with this thread at all, but this is LOL
On May 08 2012 10:02 lebowski wrote:
d smart maybe you wouldn't have quote police up your ass if you bothered to be precise (cornerstone of intellectual honesty)
I mean, you even said the "1984" book was published in 1984, the dildo comments only show that you are too emotionally involved to have a good debate, if you ever wanted or tried to have one
I even made a mistake about the published year? Fuck me, where's the rope? I actually thanked palak for correcting me. It was a good correction, the only one so far but he deserved it. But fuck me, I'm gonna hang myself for that mistake like a japanese guy.
Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech
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palak United States. May 08 2012 12:13. Posts 4601
So in an ironic note. What you said originally was
As Hitler said - Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.
to which i said at the end of another post
Also Goebbels was the one who said the "repeat a lie and becomes truth" thing, not Hitler
no source or proof, just thrown in statement. I said it because i took ur hitler line to be referring to the quote "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." or "a lie repeated often becomes truth" as seen here http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/show/85712
which is often attributed to Goebbles. But upon further research it has no source. http://bytwerk.com/gpa/falsenaziquotations.htm
Hitlers idea of a Big lie was just that big lies are easier to believe than small ones. He said nothing of repeating a lie to make it true but did say propoganda needs repition which could be constrewed to be the same.
Goebbles wrote a quote accusing the English of a big lie and sticking to it.
The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.
As for the "lie becomes truth" part of the quote. There is no source I can find as of now to reliably link that to anyone, it is often said to be Lenin but theres no primary source. The only primary source relating to it is from a US report describing Hitler
His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.[7]
Tl;dr- I wrongly attributed a quote to somone b/c i didnt fully research it. But didnt use the misattributed quote as part of an argument, just an off the cuff correction of a statement which turned out to be incorrect. The quote in question turns out to not have a primary source of the Nazis. The closest it gets is a quote of the US gov't describing Hitler during WW2...we were both wrong.
dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium
On May 08 2012 10:02 lebowski wrote:
d smart maybe you wouldn't have quote police up your ass if you bothered to be precise (cornerstone of intellectual honesty)
I mean, you even said the "1984" book was published in 1984, the dildo comments only show that you are too emotionally involved to have a good debate, if you ever wanted or tried to have one
I even made a mistake about the published year? Fuck me, where's the rope? I actually thanked palak for correcting me. It was a good correction, the only one so far but he deserved it. But fuck me, I'm gonna hang myself for that mistake like a japanese guy.
You said the world was blessed in 1984 by the book "1984", which makes pretty evident that you don't realize the book is talking about a future dystopia (aka haven't read it); the word "blessed" suddenly becomes hilarious. You surely agree that such an opener would certainly be most discouraging for anyone trying to read the rest of what you write with an open mind
new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...
Dude, lol. Are you serious? A mistaken year and suddenly everything I have said has no meaning because of a mistaken year. Smoke some weed and chill out. And if anyone is closing his mind because of a such a small mistake that guy is just an idiot who would never learn anything because there are always mistakes. Open any book... Whatever, I really believe many people on this forum seem on the edge. Like really stressed out from poker. Smoke some herb and look at the big picture and stop discussing quotes and mistaken years ffs what's wrong with people?!?
Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech
I've watched like 30 minutes of this music "documentary"...
Has to be one of the worst i've ever seen its right up there with the "ancient aliens" series (Only saw like 3 or 4 episodes of it)
Edit: Lol it gets worse... i wonder if this video is a troll within the troll...
It required the whole bottomless falsehood of the Jews and their Marxist fighting organization to lay the blame for the collapse on that very man who alone, with superhuman energy and will power, tried to prevent the catastrophe he foresaw and save the nation from its time of deepest humiliation and disgrace By branding Ludendorff as guilty for the loss of the World War they took the weapon of moral right from the one dangerous accuser who could have risen against the traitors to the fatherland. In this they proceeded on the sound principle that the magnitude of a lie always contains a certain factor of credibility, since the great masses of the people in the very bottom of their hearts tend to be corrupted rather than consciously and purposely evil, and that, therefore, in view of the primitive simplicity of their minds they more easily fall a victim to a big lie than to a little one, since they themselves lie in little things, but would be ashamed of lies that were too big. Such a falsehood will never enter their heads and they will not be able to believe in the possibility of such monstrous effrontery and infamous misrepresentation in others; yes, even when enlightened on the subject, they will long doubt and waver, and continue to accept at least one of these causes as true. Therefore, something of even the most insolent lie will always remain and stick-a fact which all the great lie-virtuosi and lying-clubs in this world know only too well and also make the most treacherous use of.
Later, Joseph Goebbels put forth a slightly different theory which has come to be more commonly associated with the expression "big lie." Goebbels wrote the following paragraph in an article dated 12 January 1941, 16 years after Hitler's first use of the phrase "big lie," titled "Aus Churchills Lügenfabrik" and translated "From Churchill's Lie Factory." It was published in Die Zeit ohne Beispiel.
The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.[2]
So is what you believers in this conspiracy theory trying to say is that your siding with Hitler about the zionist jews (ie The Rothschilds) and that Hitler had it right? Adolf Hitler was also convinced of a conspiracy by the Jews and Zionists to bring down Germany. Maybe you should put a little more thought and research into your beliefs about this conspiracy before you try to convince others of your cause. I would be more open minded to believe in an imaginary super man that lives in the clouds then this dribble
Could it be a coincidence that Hitler was funded by the banks in his first few years in power then after giving the currency back to the german people the whole world plotted against him?
Could it be coincidence Gaddafi was about to plan a new currency the gold dinar, then abruptly his life was ended?
Could it be coincidence JFK issued executive order 11 110 (back currency with silver) then 9 months or so later is killed?
The funny thing about Conspiracy theories is they really aren't theories.
On May 08 2012 12:58 nerdonpoker wrote:
Could it be a coincidence that Hitler was funded by the banks in his first few years in power then after giving the currency back to the german people the whole world plotted against him?
Yeah invading a bunch of countries and killing millions and millions of Jews and Political Dissidents had nothing to do with it all
yeah. The guy above you talking about superman should learn the facts about Hitler and his sponsors. Hitler was in the position of Obama right now. The puppet masters just use different figures as a facade to clear the dirt with them and always stay in the shadows. There is so much information on the Illuminati, ancient history and how it's all connected throughout the ages. It's always the good against the evil. The evil are very smart and like to control from the dark and even with all their symbology people don't notice them because individual clues don't have significance. So research those things, there are tons of information, it's very interesting and way more sense then any "history" taught in school.
Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech
Lol its cool. Call me stupid. Most people berate others when what they are saying makes no sense to them, completely standard imo. May I recommend an epic dose of some magic mushrooms?? "squeegee" that third eye of yours ;-]. RIP ~Bill Hicks.
On May 08 2012 13:09 D_smart_S wrote:
yeah. The guy above you talking about superman should learn the facts about Hitler and his sponsors. Hitler was in the position of Obama right now. The puppet masters just use different figures as a facade to clear the dirt with them and always stay in the shadows. There is so much information on the Illuminati, ancient history and how it's all connected throughout the ages. It's always the good against the evil. The evil are very smart and like to control from the dark and even with all their symbology people don't notice them because individual clues don't have significance. So research those things, there are tons of information, it's very interesting and way more sense then any "history" taught in school.
well what they teach you in school, is that history has many perspectives and that looking at things as they would be black or white, good or evil, is the wrong thing to do.
So, stay in school, unless you want to end up like OP, reasoning in black or white instead of learning the beauty of critical thinking and applying a much more analytical approach to everything.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
I was generalizing the concept of good and evil, yin and yang. Something that is part of every culture and yoga/meditation/enlightenment practices around the world. I am not putting things on either black and white, but your brain being like a black and white TV understands it in exactly that fashion. So it's pretty ironic reading your comment about not seeing things in black and white while actually that's what you just did with your "analysis" of my post.
Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech
On May 08 2012 13:39 D_smart_S wrote:
I was generalizing the concept of good and evil, yin and yang. Something that is part of every culture and yoga/meditation/enlightenment practices around the world. I am not putting things on either black and white, but your brain being like a black and white TV understands it in exactly that fashion. So it's pretty ironic reading your comment about not seeing things in black and white while actually that's what you just did with your "analysis" of my post.
Why dont you elaborate on your initial though about good vs evil since neither uick nor me seemed to grasp the true meaning of it.
i was commenting on the statement "It's always the good against the evil" ; which is insanely retarded, on par with your mental disorders.
How are you not putting things on either black or white? Just saying it doesn't make your retard posts any less fucking retarded.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
good video. I guess you want to imply that I am assuming many things because I don't consider other explanations for them but that's incorrect but of course you are disagreeing so it doesn't matter what I say and we will always disagree and argue until we actually see that dildo up palak's ass. That might take us off the arguing.
Zep: When I said I feel obligated to troll, it was a figure of speech
D_smart have you ever considered that you are a victim of Apophenia.
Apophenia is the experience of seeing meaningful patterns or connections in random or meaningless data.
The term was coined in 1958 by Klaus Conrad, who defined it as the "unmotivated seeing of connections" accompanied by a "specific experience of an abnormal meaningfulness", but it has come to represent the human tendency to seek patterns in random nature in general, as with gambling, paranormal phenomena, religion, and even attempts at scientific observation.
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