Raidern   Brasil. Dec 04 2008 09:50. Posts 4248
<img align="right" src=http://admins.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/8b7ec8c7100874a09fe32d0e66a04242.jpg style="margin:5px; border:1px solid black;">This year we saw a lot of insane poker records being broken one after another at the highest limits of online poker. Players were aiming to finish the year with as much profit as possible, and we got to see some pots of unimaginable sizes before. The introduction of the <b>Rail Haven</b> tables on Full Tilt Poker was one of the big happenings of the year for High Stakes, as it was the main reason it became kind of common to watch poker stars like Ivey and Durrr play for pots as big as $400,000. Out of curiosity, we've made a research on the HighStakes sites out there to check who were the big winners and losers on both NL Hold'em and Omaha.
First, the <b>biggest winner </b> of 2008 so far isn’t really a big surprise… <b>Phil Ivey</b>! This amazing player made exactly $7,112,054 , from 1.01.2008 until 30.11.2008! In November alone he made $777,441 , which gave him the 5th spot in November’s winners list, as the biggest winner of the month was Eli Elezra, with $1,374,698 profit.
Second person on the list of biggest winners made around half of what Phil Ivey has made! <b> Phil Galfond</b> also known as <b>OMGClayAiken</b> or <b>Jman28</b>, profited $3,376,606! He is just marginally in front of Trex313 ($3,326,685) and Tom "durrrr" Dwan ($3,208,507). Those four players close the list of people who made over $3mln.
Of course, all that money comes from somewhere, so let’s take a look at the biggest losers of the high stakes cash games. First on the list is <b>Lady marmelade</b>, who lost $6,548,034 since the start of the year. Second in the red list is <b>patatino</b>, aka Guy Laliberté, founder and CEO of Cirque du Soleil and a passionate of poker. He has lost $4,042,466, what isn’t really capable of hurting his <A name="cutnews"></A>pockets, as he is a multi-billionaire. Third and fourth on the list are <b>elmariachimacho</b> and <b>Bleachbum</b> , who lost $2,788,162 and $1,097,457 respectively. Check out top ten lists of both winners and losers of the high stakes poker:
<b>Biggest Winners in 2008 until November 30th:</b>
Huh i thought Lady Marmelade and patatino were the same guy?
Who is lady marmelade then ?
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Raidern   Brasil. Dec 04 2008 10:14. Posts 4248
well I've read laliberte = patatino, lady marmelade, elmariachimacho and noataima, but i cant really write that as I don't know if its true or not, except for patatino.
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Pindarots   Netherlands. Dec 04 2008 10:33. Posts 802
That would make -12 million for Laliberté. Quite a nice donation to the pokerworld
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Jelle   Belgium. Dec 04 2008 10:41. Posts 3476
it's weird how phil ivey can be so good when he's played so much fewer hands lifetime.. makes me wonder if lifetime hands really does say that much about skill level
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Nazgul   Netherlands. Dec 04 2008 10:50. Posts 7080
your conclusion should be ivey is a prodigy not whether lifetime hands prove that much
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Sicks Macks   United States. Dec 04 2008 11:01. Posts 3929
Some guy on 2+2 compiled this flowchart in september for FTP. The general conclusion is that the top 30 players basically make their living off Guy.
Interesting graphical representation (but I think it's NLHE only)
Sheitan   Canada. Dec 04 2008 11:04. Posts 4217
I'm pretty sure, Raidern, that patatino, noaitama and lady marmelade are Laliberté so that's 11,500,000$ loss for him this year ! And now we see what happens if Laliberté quits playing poker. elmariachimacho is not Guy from what i've heard but a spoiled rich arab kid living in mexico (am i rite?), i would be interested in knowing who the fuck are "howisitfeellike ", "CHUFTY" and "La Key U" tho ...
elmariachimacho is amir dinh
chufty is friedman
la key u is green plastic
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FrinkX   United States. Dec 04 2008 11:20. Posts 7562
CHUFTY has been playing plo on stars for ages
bitch on a pension suck my dong
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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Dec 04 2008 11:23. Posts 5127
What about Patrick ?
:D
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TwistedEcho   United Kingdom. Dec 04 2008 11:26. Posts 3539
Chufty is a youngish english player who went on a ridic omaha heater. I haven't played with him but have heard several ppl inc stinger hint he was just running really really good. He donates pretty nicely at the bigger horse games
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BigRed0000   United States. Dec 04 2008 11:49. Posts 3554
On December 04 2008 10:19 vyq wrote:
elmariachimacho is amir dinh
chufty is friedman
la key u is green plastic
Please don't post fake info (unless you are leveling)
mariachimacho is Guy
Chufty is some english PLO pro like echo said (he even has his own blog...)
La key u is not taylor ROFL he is a red name on that site (Taylor Caby)
On December 04 2008 10:23 VanDerMeyde wrote:
What about Patrick ?
Eights are good
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Nazgul   Netherlands. Dec 04 2008 12:12. Posts 7080
i wonder what happens to poker when guy quits.. these guys are playing each other right now without guy too but i actually doubt they can keep doing that if guy isnt donating
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frenchylucky   Finland. Dec 04 2008 12:40. Posts 1788
On December 04 2008 10:20 FrinkX wrote:
CHUFTY has been playing plo on stars for ages
chufty so good..how about antonius and ziigmund`?
nice read
by the way..guylaliberte according to forbes + 1,7 billion $
here is the links..he is ranking 707 in the worlds billionaire
I was playing poker with tarot cards the other night. I got a full house and four people died. WTF...welcome to finland...
Last edit: 04/12/2008 13:10
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Ond keso   Sweden. Dec 04 2008 13:07. Posts 64
On December 04 2008 11:12 Nazgul wrote:
i wonder what happens to poker when guy quits.. these guys are playing each other right now without guy too but i actually doubt they can keep doing that if guy isnt donating
I guess they all hold thumbs that jamie gold wins WSOP main event again and discovers online poker...
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Sicks Macks   United States. Dec 04 2008 13:56. Posts 3929
I heard this once but wasn't sure if it's true. Is ugadabugada Negreaneau?
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rS.Wisdom[9]   United States. Dec 04 2008 13:57. Posts 1288
On December 04 2008 10:19 vyq wrote:
elmariachimacho is amir dinh
chufty is friedman
la key u is green plastic
is today opposite day?
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TwistedEcho   United Kingdom. Dec 04 2008 13:59. Posts 3539
On December 04 2008 12:56 Sicks Macks wrote:
I heard this once but wasn't sure if it's true. Is ugadabugada Negreaneau?
ugadabugada is Ville Wahlbäck ( finland) iso-kala ( big-fish ) in prima
friedman is Prahlad Friedman - Zweig / Spirit Rock / Mahatma / Poopers
funny hand versus jamie gold ...
I was playing poker with tarot cards the other night. I got a full house and four people died. WTF...welcome to finland...
Last edit: 04/12/2008 14:38
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Critterer   United Kingdom. Dec 04 2008 14:39. Posts 5337
On December 04 2008 09:07 Nazgul wrote:
durrr has had 1 day 1m swings with 3m total profit thats really sick
that was my first thought too, in the big games this year there are lots of $500k+ pots flying around and even the biggest winners are on like 3million profit, how can they afford to be in these games?
Maynard!   United States. Dec 04 2008 15:59. Posts 4453
I'm always interested to see these numbers. The 10th most profitable online poker palyer in the world (on ftp) only made 1.7 million? And what happens if that rich donator quits? How much will profits drop.
Realities of poker economy are making me want to study more and play less.
Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP.
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all_in_4tw   Canada. Dec 04 2008 16:20. Posts 4515
good year for the dang bros
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BigRed0000   United States. Dec 04 2008 16:22. Posts 3554
I think ppl are forgetting how much money some of (most) of these players made playing live this year as well. Durrrr FT'd some big tournaments, krantz won a PLO 5k rebuy, etc..
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MayZerG   United Kingdom. Dec 04 2008 16:31. Posts 2123
So fucking sick... what i could do with that money right now .
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luddite   United States. Dec 04 2008 17:04. Posts 398
On December 04 2008 09:07 Nazgul wrote:
durrr has had 1 day 1m swings with 3m total profit thats really sick
that was my first thought too, in the big games this year there are lots of $500k+ pots flying around and even the biggest winners are on like 3million profit, how can they afford to be in these games?
these numbers are just from the super high stakes games right? I imagine that all of these players make a lot more from grinding the lower stakes games.
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Ket   United Kingdom. Dec 04 2008 19:23. Posts 8665
wtf jan-nov why didnt you wait a month and make a 2008 report
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Raidern   Brasil. Dec 04 2008 19:49. Posts 4248
I dunno if I will be alive by the end of december
it was defrag who made the report though.
im a regular at nl5
Last edit: 04/12/2008 19:50
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TheHuHu3   United States. Dec 04 2008 20:21. Posts 5544
On December 04 2008 15:22 BigRed0000 wrote:
I think ppl are forgetting how much money some of (most) of these players made playing live this year as well. Durrrr FT'd some big tournaments, krantz won a PLO 5k rebuy, etc..
Yeah, Ivey went deep in some WPT tournaments but he also won the L.A. Classic WPT for a cool $1M+. But I am still fucking surprised Ivey has made that much this year online. It's fucking mind-boggling. But this just reaffirms my man-crush on Ivey (no homo).
TheHuHu4 coming soon :)
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chris   United States. Dec 04 2008 21:27. Posts 5511
On December 04 2008 11:12 Nazgul wrote:
i wonder what happens to poker when guy quits.. these guys are playing each other right now without guy too but i actually doubt they can keep doing that if guy isnt donating
they find high stakes live games with the rich fish who just dont trust having $1 mill online.
an accountant friend's wife plays high stakes limit games ($100/200 down to 25/50, although i know those arent nosebleed and its LIMIT) but the concept is the same. lot of wives, or husbands, recreation gamblers, who would rather lose 10k or win 10k rather than play 1/2 2/4, or even 5/10 just because they get the thrill and they can afford to blow a few grand every month or so.
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Liofle   Bulgaria. Dec 05 2008 02:58. Posts 274
On December 04 2008 12:56 Sicks Macks wrote:
I heard this once but wasn't sure if it's true. Is ugadabugada Negreaneau?
Nope, It's Lindgren.
At least that is what I read from a somewhat reliable source but since others say he is someone else then maybe he is not Erick. Rumours everywhere...
Last edit: 05/12/2008 03:03
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SpoR   United States. Dec 05 2008 05:11. Posts 1254
On December 04 2008 10:01 Sicks Macks wrote:
Some guy on 2+2 compiled this flowchart in september for FTP. The general conclusion is that the top 30 players basically make their living off Guy.
Interesting graphical representation (but I think it's NLHE only)
VENOM   United States. Dec 05 2008 07:32. Posts 1383
Jeez...phil woods...I mean Tiger Ivey....Phil Ivey is the poker domination.
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daysare   Poland. Dec 05 2008 09:24. Posts 670
How much did Guy lose last year? 11M?
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Daut   United States. Dec 06 2008 01:13. Posts 8955
you should REALLY really provide a source for this article as highstakesdb.com does all the datamining for high stakes (at least 50/100 nl/plo and 500/1k limit games)
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frenchylucky   Finland. Dec 06 2008 11:25. Posts 1788
On December 04 2008 12:56 Sicks Macks wrote:
I heard this once but wasn't sure if it's true. Is ugadabugada Negreaneau?
Nope, It's Lindgren.
At least that is what I read from a somewhat reliable source but since others say he is someone else then maybe he is not Erick. Rumours everywhere...
ugadabugada is Ville Wahlbäck ( finland) iso-kala ( big-fish ) in prima
lindgren is lindgren in ft lol..
I was playing poker with tarot cards the other night. I got a full house and four people died. WTF...welcome to finland...