New Book: How I Made My First Million from Poker

Hey guys!

First off, I want to thank LP for letting me post here.

My name is Tri Nguyen and I'm coming out with a new book on high-performance poker and what you can do to improve your poker lifestyle.

I've written several popular poker books, including "Let There Be Range" with Cole South and "The Poker Blueprint" with Aaron Davis. I'm confident this book will be a game-changer for most grinders.

You can pre-order it at How I Made My First Million from Poker. Make sure to use the code LP10 to get an additional 10% Discount.

If you have any question about the book, I would love to answer it.

Also, people really enjoyed my previous poker webinar so I'm hosting another one tomorrow. And it's FREE!

The theme is what you can do to improve your poker game and winrate. I would be surprised if you don't come out as a better player. Reserve a spot today

Take care!

Signed up for your seminar and also got around to buying your new book. I hope I enjoy it as much as your previous stuff.

Thanks for the support! You'll love it.

is the book for cash or tournaments?

Many examples I used are from cash games.

However, this book is both for cash and tournament players. It's a book on how to achieve the modern poker lifestyle, which is personal and financial freedom. There are also strategies to improve your game so you don't become one of those players who let the games pass them by and the next you know, they're out of the game.

In short, think of it as "Ace on the River", but for the younger aggressive generation.

How much $ have you won, since 2008?

On December 10 2011 17:51 doriipoker wrote: How much $ have you won, since 2008?

50k-300k

On December 10 2011 17:51 doriipoker wrote: How much $ have you won, since 2008?

wanted to ask the same question haha

8)

how did u come up w/ 46k maynard?

second book, second million ez

On December 10 2011 20:37 SlowHabit wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2011 17:51 doriipoker wrote: How much $ have you won, since 2008? 50k-300k

does that mean 50k from playing, and 250k from other poker income? or something else?

i was debating whether or not to make a buyer beware post but i don't know OP and he got barryg to write the forward so figured i'd give him the benefit of the doubt but lp is getting right down to business

On December 11 2011 13:20 Daut wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2011 20:37 SlowHabit wrote:   On December 10 2011 17:51 doriipoker wrote: How much $ have you won, since 2008? 50k-300k does that mean 50k from playing, and 250k from other poker income? or something else?

It's either ($50k)+($>50,<300k)+($>50,<300k)+($300k), in which case he's just poor at answering questions
or he thinks he might have only had $1k/month from poker on average, but in that case
he also pondered if he made 6 times that... which begs the question: Wat?

I'll join in the doubt and rephrase the question:
SlowHabit, what is your gross income from playing poker in the period 01.01.2008-today?

http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/QuickStilz

On December 11 2011 13:20 Daut wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2011 20:37 SlowHabit wrote:   On December 10 2011 17:51 doriipoker wrote: How much $ have you won, since 2008? 50k-300k does that mean 50k from playing, and 250k from other poker income? or something else?

The range of amount is from playing poker and doesn't have anything with other poker income.

I've been very open that I haven't play much poker since 2008 due to running my publishing company but I've definitely won more than 50K.

My new book is how to manage your life as a poker professional and perform at a high level to achieve the modern poker lifestyle. To me, the modern poker lifestyle is about personal and financial freedom. I'm qualified to write about this and know it will help a lot of people.

On December 11 2011 16:19 taco wrote: Show nested quote + On December 11 2011 13:20 Daut wrote:   On December 10 2011 20:37 SlowHabit wrote:   On December 10 2011 17:51 doriipoker wrote: How much $ have you won, since 2008? 50k-300k does that mean 50k from playing, and 250k from other poker income? or something else? It's either ($50k)+($>50,<300k)+($>50,<300k)+($300k), in which case he's just poor at answering questions or he thinks he might have only had $1k/month from poker on average, but in that case he also pondered if he made 6 times that... which begs the question: Wat? I'll join in the doubt and rephrase the question: SlowHabit, what is your gross income from playing poker in the period 01.01.2008-today?

My gross income from playing poker in the period 01.01.2008-today is a number in the range between 50K to 300K.

lol how can you have a range between 50k-300k!. Such a sick hustle guys.. Hes trying to get money from all the lowstakes guys who dont know any better. I previously flamed a blog earlier. In which i felt out of line since Marius seemed like a cool dude. But Tri just seems like a constant money grabber. He knows he cant win at any significant rate in these current game conditions now, and he estimated making books/ bragging about past achievements when games were easy, would show him at least 2x the profit.

On December 11 2011 15:56 RiKD wrote: i was debating whether or not to make a buyer beware post but i don't know OP and he got barryg to write the forward so figured i'd give him the benefit of the doubt but lp is getting right down to business

i have to admit the cover of this book is pretty baller:





i debated it as well, but decided against it at first because i think the focus of this book is tommy angelo type aspects of poker. however, the misleading title of the book bothers me. "how i made my first million" implies more millions were made (which i dont believe), and in general i dont think that someone who made 50% of his money from the dinosaur era of online poker and 45% of his money from self promotion and books is qualified to write books in 2011 giving straight poker advice. i do think he is a better poker player than someone like learnedfromtv who is not a winner in the game he teaches (huge joke imo), and that this book is about a lot of non playing aspects of poker, but its still buyer beware territory to me as well.

furthermore, i think slowhabit deserves this kind of criticism and questioning. i havent seen it anywhere and people should know all sides of it before putting a lot of money into buying his material, its not fair to some of the 50nl grinders out there who have 1500 rolls and would be investing a large chunk of their money into something that might not help them at all. after reading "let there be range" i think that book does more of a disservice to players than it helps them. i disagreed with just about all of his sections, and considering the book was priced at $1750, i think it was a huge scam to have cts come in, write a handful of sections on very specific points and sell it at that price.


edit: id like to apologize....to all the midstakes players out there that bought let there be range a few years ago. i didnt speak my mind then because i liked cts and didnt want to make him mad or take money away from him and i didnt really want to step on any toes. but in doing so i allowed too many players to invest too much money into a subpar product. sorry guys, i wish i did this years ago.



just check out this product.....its basically an attempt at giving people who failed as poker players a chance to make money by coaching. im actually speechless looking at this

http://www.dailyvariance.com/poker-videos/poker-coaching-system/

You cant say something like "high performance poker" when you havent played properly since 08, i mean just looking at that date I think its fairly easy to say that you are in no shape to teach "high performance poker" and probably not even to people playing 200nl.

Enough with the book scam, if the writer isnt currently beating the stakes he shouldnt write books on how to beat them, period.

I have read poker blueprint & nl workboook and they are the best poker books I've read, including LTBR. I was already winning at nl200 when I read them.
Let's just say I'll be surprised if this book isn't a profitable buy for me. If it isn't, I doubt it will hurt my game and the parts that isn't about poker theory are probably entertaining.
I've already bought the mental game of poker and I look to improve my approach to poker and how I think about it. And a large part seems to be about surrounding parts of poker.

He might not be good enough to beat 10/20 or whatever he was playing anymore, but he is obviously very good at explaining theory. Besides, it seems to be more about psychology than poker theory.

next book is about:

"how to make millions out of selling books"

I have to agree with what Ryan and Baalim said.

I was very close to posting similar concerns when Mariuslol advertised the book on his blog, but went against it, because I didn't feel like getting into a longer debate (which is likely necessary if you really want to get your point across).

I really dislike cheap marketing. Exorbitant prices crossed out to make it seem like you're getting a great deal, "limited" numbers of products for sale. Whenever I see that shit it irritates me. It's thriving on people's naivety. Seems like that's what the dailyvariance site is based on. Some think it's clever, I think it's disingenuous.

Since the author admittedly hasn't been active since 2008 I would hope the book doesn't have too much strategy, but this isn't specifically stated anywhere that it's a non-strategy book. It's actually implied that there is a lot of it. Pretty sleazy.

The 100k Poker Coaching System looks particularly disturbing. Just take a look - http://www.dailyvariance.com/poker-videos/poker-coaching-system/ .

But what if you’re not a big winner? No problem. There are many great poker theorists out there who for whatever reason cannot apply their awesome knowledge at the tables. People understand this.

Do they really?

What if you no longer play online poker? That’s a minor issue.

Is it really?

On December 11 2011 20:55 barbieman wrote: I have read poker blueprint & nl workboook and they are the best poker books I've read, including LTBR. I was already winning at nl200 when I read them. Let's just say I'll be surprised if this book isn't a profitable buy for me. If it isn't, I doubt it will hurt my game and the parts that isn't about poker theory are probably entertaining. I've already bought the mental game of poker and I look to improve my approach to poker and how I think about it. And a large part seems to be about surrounding parts of poker. He might not be good enough to beat 10/20 or whatever he was playing anymore, but he is obviously very good at explaining theory. Besides, it seems to be more about psychology than poker theory.

thats good to hear at least. i just hope people dont come away feeling fleeced, as i would have if i had bought let there be range for 1750. but since i got it for free and respected cts i kept my mouth shut.

while i agree some are good at theory and arent good at doing things in practice, there is no denying the huge changes the game has gone through in the past 4 years. i honestly feel as though i wouldnt feel comfortable doing coaching for mtt play for most people, and i have made over 300k in them this year alone because I only play maybe 300-400 a year now.

staying current on the game is very very important. if i offered coaching, i would only offer PLO, nl full ring and i would offer mtt for a much lower rate. people should always be aware that they can get 3 years worth of phil galfond videos for a months subscription. that they can do the same with any training site. you should aim to improve your poker game at the lowest possible cost and with the best possible information.

I have no idea whether the content of your book is good, Tri, it very well could be. However what kind of makes me sick and what is definitely not making me want to trust this is the exaggerated style of advertising everywhere on your site.

An example (this is on the coaching course page):
"Considering that Tri charges $5,000 / hour for his consulting and coaching services, you are getting great value from his expertise.
Combine the conference calls and private forum access with the FREE websites and templates, you are getting over $25,000 in value." [http://www.dailyvariance.com/poker-videos/poker-coaching-system/]
Do you seriously charge $5,000/hour for private coaching? Or do you, say, charge $50 for a webinar, get like 100 viewers and that makes it a $5,000 hourly rate? Also since you probably don't (can't) run webinars like this every day and preparing one takes some effort, it hardly makes your hourly $5,000.

I feel like a lot of the stuff you claim is way over the top in the same manner, for example the tips you promise in you new book: "How to build a high-stakes bankroll in just a few weeks ... Tips on page 197, How to avoid running bad ... Once you read Tri's advice, you can't believe you didn't think of it in the first place. Go to page 188" [http://www.dailyvariance.com/poker-books/my-first-million-from-poker/]
I also watched one of your recorded free webinars and it was so much fluff and so little actual information that would be to the point (I will admit I haven't seen the full length of it).

It might just be my taste and advertising like this could be completely fine, but I just can't help but feel a bit like I'm being fooled when so much of the information appears to be vastly exaggerated or misleading. Does anyone else feel the same way? In my experience this is usually the case of: 1) Make a so-so product. 2) Advertise the hell out of it and make the buyers love it before they even get it. 3) Deliver much less than advertised, but still at least something => basic psychology, customers don't want to feel stupid, they focus on the positives and feel like they 'got something out of it'.

I'm not trying to claim that your book is bad or that you're a scammer, that would be a big overstatement at this point, I am however voicing my suspicions...

On December 11 2011 21:14 tomson wrote: I really dislike cheap marketing. Exorbitant prices crossed out to make it seem like you're getting a great deal, "limited" numbers of products for sale. Whenever I see that shit it irritates me. It's thriving on people's naivety. Seems like that's what the dailyvariance site is based on. Some think it's clever, I think it's disingenuous.

Couldn't agree more.

On December 11 2011 21:31 Pulda wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I have no idea whether the content of your book is good, Tri, it very well could be. However what kind of makes me sick and what is definitely not making me want to trust this is the exaggerated style of advertising everywhere on your site. An example (this is on the coaching course page): "Considering that Tri charges $5,000 / hour for his consulting and coaching services, you are getting great value from his expertise. Combine the conference calls and private forum access with the FREE websites and templates, you are getting over $25,000 in value." [http://www.dailyvariance.com/poker-videos/poker-coaching-system/] Do you seriously charge $5,000/hour for private coaching? Or do you, say, charge $50 for a webinar, get like 100 viewers and that makes it a $5,000 hourly rate? Also since you probably don't (can't) run webinars like this every day and preparing one takes some effort, it hardly makes your hourly $5,000. I feel like a lot of the stuff you claim is way over the top in the same manner, for example the tips you promise in you new book: "How to build a high-stakes bankroll in just a few weeks ... Tips on page 197, How to avoid running bad ... Once you read Tri's advice, you can't believe you didn't think of it in the first place. Go to page 188" [http://www.dailyvariance.com/poker-books/my-first-million-from-poker/] I also watched one of your recorded free webinars and it was so much fluff and so little actual information that would be to the point (I will admit I haven't seen the full length of it). It might just be my taste and advertising like this could be completely fine, but I just can't help but feel a bit like I'm being fooled when so much of the information appears to be vastly exaggerated or misleading. Does anyone else feel the same way? In my experience this is usually the case of: 1) Make a so-so product. 2) Advertise the hell out of it and make the buyers love it before they even get it. 3) Deliver much less than advertised, but still at least something => basic psychology, customers don't want to feel stupid, they focus on the positives and feel like they 'got something out of it'. I'm not trying to claim that your book is bad or that you're a scammer, that would be a big overstatement at this point, I am however voicing my suspicions...

Was going to post the same part because I thought it was ridiculous along with '$2,500 is a tiny investment to become a respected poker coach in this gloomy job market. That’s definitely better than spending $100,000+ to get a college degree with no job prospect. And if you charge $100/hour coaching, you will recoup your investment in less than 2 weeks.'

Amazing.

On December 10 2011 20:37 SlowHabit wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2011 17:51 doriipoker wrote: How much $ have you won, since 2008? 50k-300k

lol such a troll answer

On December 11 2011 19:07 SlowHabit wrote: + Show Spoiler + Show nested quote + On December 11 2011 16:19 taco wrote:   On December 11 2011 13:20 Daut wrote:   On December 10 2011 20:37 SlowHabit wrote:   On December 10 2011 17:51 doriipoker wrote: How much $ have you won, since 2008? 50k-300k does that mean 50k from playing, and 250k from other poker income? or something else? It's either ($50k)+($>50,<300k)+($>50,<300k)+($300k), in which case he's just poor at answering questions or he thinks he might have only had $1k/month from poker on average, but in that case he also pondered if he made 6 times that... which begs the question: Wat? I'll join in the doubt and rephrase the question: SlowHabit, what is your gross income from playing poker in the period 01.01.2008-today? My gross income from playing poker in the period 01.01.2008-today is a number in the range between 50K to 300K.

So the poker aspect is written by someone who possibly made less playing poker than the median of good low stakes grinders/part time low wage workers
in a 4 year period and the "living with the balling lifestyle" is thus written by memory from years ago and therefore
even that part is potentially out-of-date?

how many books so far?

oh baby, LP fight mode activated !

this is turning out to be a good thread.

daut,

completely agree with you. don't get me started on that learnedfromtv book. i had a friend that bought it and was trying to learn plo and it completely fucked him up maybe for life. he had me look at the book and i just paged through it and told him to forget you ever bought it. i felt bad and tried to spend a lot of time for free to help him out. he was a math guy and kept going back to what he learned in that book and since i am more of a feel/psychology guy it was tough. if you have a zillion thoughts swirling through your mind most of them bad it's extremely hard to have confidence and make good decisions. he was focusing on like 5,654 things that didn't matter instead of zoning in on gathering and processing the right data in a useful way. this example is a great example of why i'm so anti-coaching and anti-books.

i could go through and tear apart all the horrible poker books i've seen out there but instead i'll just mention ones i felt were actually good.

Ace on the River
Mathematics of Poker (mostly for the jam or fold game and kelly criterion/br management/investment chapters)

maybe Theory of Poker but it's been so long since I've read it it might be horrible.

if this book is an updated version of Ace on the River for the younger internet crowd there might be something there. considering barry likely read it and is endorsing it there's probably something there. I have seen his PLO book though and there wasn't anything there.

Damn...

if this statement is true

Considering that Tri charges $5,000 / hour for his consulting and coaching services,

then...why would you even go through the tedious task of writing a book or even doing anything else than just...consulting for an hour here and there...

book bumhunter...lol

Ok this is such a great thread it even pulls me out of my lurker hole. I just want to congratulate all the LP members for being so sharp. And the fact Tri isn't replying anymore says enough for me. Man, I hope he replies

oh LP, I love you.

I would never pay for a training site subscription, or even buy a poker book without asking the LP community about it first.

plz never die lp

People still read books these days? I've read maybe 5 books in my life(and that was for school lol)

On December 11 2011 19:07 SlowHabit wrote: Show nested quote + On December 11 2011 16:19 taco wrote:   On December 11 2011 13:20 Daut wrote:   On December 10 2011 20:37 SlowHabit wrote:   On December 10 2011 17:51 doriipoker wrote: How much $ have you won, since 2008? 50k-300k does that mean 50k from playing, and 250k from other poker income? or something else? It's either ($50k)+($>50,<300k)+($>50,<300k)+($300k), in which case he's just poor at answering questions or he thinks he might have only had $1k/month from poker on average, but in that case he also pondered if he made 6 times that... which begs the question: Wat? I'll join in the doubt and rephrase the question: SlowHabit, what is your gross income from playing poker in the period 01.01.2008-today? My gross income from playing poker in the period 01.01.2008-today is a number in the range between 50K to 300K.

pff big deal

my gross income from playing poker in the period 01.01.2008-today is a number in the range between 50K to 10 million.

trolling aside, that might be one of the worst posts in the history of the internet

someone asks you how much you made and you answer FUCKING 50k to 300k ??? WTF HOW FULL OF CRAP CAN YOU BE ??? IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 50k AND 300k, YOU NEED TO GIVE A SMALLER RANGE DON'T YOU THINK ???

and also even if the number is 299k, that means you're not qualified to teach people how to make millions (from playing that is, prob can teach a lot about how to make $$$ off of people's naiveness)

http://memegenerator.net/Tri-Nguyen

^ LOOOOOOOOOL

On December 10 2011 20:37 SlowHabit wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2011 17:51 doriipoker wrote: How much $ have you won, since 2008? 50k-300k

let there be range

On December 12 2011 11:08 moneypoker wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2011 20:37 SlowHabit wrote:   On December 10 2011 17:51 doriipoker wrote: How much $ have you won, since 2008? 50k-300k let there be range

good one.

gotta admire the guy ... he exploits idiots like a boss ... also didnt his 1st book cost like 1750$ in VPPs ?

also how can you name the book my 1st million from poker when you havent achieved that yet ... wth ? :D what a moneymaking troll

On December 12 2011 14:15 Spitfiree wrote: gotta admire the guy ... he exploits idiots like a boss ... also didnt his 1st book cost like 1750$ in VPPs ? also how can you name the book my 1st million from poker when you havent achieved that yet ... wth ? :D what a moneymaking troll

It's implied, obv

Rofl, they're still advertising dogishead in their coaching section... lol fail

On December 12 2011 10:57 k4ir0s wrote: http://memegenerator.net/Tri-Nguyen

hahaha

LMAO amazing meme and with haste too

The title doesn't say he made a million from PLAYING poker, so he's prolly talking about selling books, coaching, sponsor deals etc..., anything but actually playing poker lol

On December 12 2011 16:20 jeffv8x_-_16 wrote: The title doesn't say he made a million from PLAYING poker, so he's prolly talking about selling books, coaching, sponsor deals etc..., anything but actually playing poker lol

From How I Made My First Million, You'll Learn: How Tri Made a Million From Poker ... You won't believe the unorthodox concepts that he used. Learn his strategies on page 247

Everyone, turn your copy of the book (couldn't say no to the 10% LP discount obv) to page 247.

The fact that there are almost no reviews posted on the site really should make customers wary. Why is there so little information out there about what customers thought of the quality of the books that have been produced by this site?

i will buy the book anyway coz its better than 3b idawg and get insta4b

This guy is a joke and he's never played any real poker in his life period.

Tri probably makes decent money off this which shows how naive the poker community is into thinking there is any value in the crap he writes.

LP hwaiting!!!

HWAHWAHWAHWAHWAHWAAAAA!!!

Interesting thread, thou I pre-ordered the book before reading through this. Wasn't expecting the book to have anything ground-breaking or game changing anyways.

I've always had a very skewed view of poker coaching because I lived with two different people who coached as a way to supplement their incomes. In all honesty, I probably would have dabbled in coaching too if I was better at explaining my thoughts or more well known. Back in the days, there were so many new players seeking advice from any players who were already established in playing bigger games. Let's take Jerry Yang (have nothing against the man, he seems like a nice guy) Let's say Jerry Yang had open sign ups for poker lessons for some XXXXX$ amount. It'd be pretty obvious to anyone who ever has read an online forum that this would be a worthless investment. However, to your casual TV viewer or new poker player who doesn't know anything about poker, this could be viewed has an awesome oppurtunity. Name recognition is huge when it comes to these things. There is a lot of the blind leading the blind going on when it comes to poker coaching.

This is going to be the best piece of advice in this thread:
There is only one sure fire way to get better. Play a lot. I can't emphasize this enough. Play through your upswings and your downswings. Study what your opponents are doing, and do it better. Then play some more. The most common theme among all the really great poker players I personally know is that they all play a lot. They've played absurd hours (I'm talking 30+ hour straight sessions). They don't waste the majority of their times lurking internet forums, reading books, or watching videos. They might do all 3 of those things, but the majority of their time is spent playing poker and figuring out what works and doesn't work for themselves.

On the topic of Let There Be Range, I thought it was a great read. Yes it was a little pricey when it was released, but in all honesty, if you played higher than $3/6 at the time it was a mandatory read for online play. You know that most of your opponents would be reading the book, and not reading the book would keep you behind an evolving game. On top of that, it was the best book released on NLHold'em at the time. Try naming a book that had better information than what was in Let There Be Range. Obviously don't take things written in LTBR as the biblical truth of the game. Questioning the information in there is normal and use it as more of a guide / reference instead of religious truth.

With all that said, I prolly would have still gotten this new book just to see what everyone else might be reading.

+ Show Spoiler +

I mean most of you guys are being haters in this thread just because Daut posted a negative review.

Fucking lemmings go walk off a cliff while your at it.

most people are just afraid to post their opinion, then someone known does it so they feel their opinion is now appropriate

either way I don't find anything wrong with hating here cuz this book is probably garbage

I didn't just make my mind up now I always thought it was shady that he doesn't really play but writes a ton of books and only has pre 2008 results (convenient no tracking sites?) If he's so damn good he could prove all the haters wrong right now and play 25/50 plo on stars for a significant sample he's rolled right?
My guess is that he has a bunch of mid stakes guys to consult for material so it is actually ok stuff that is written and not outdated.

On December 11 2011 19:18 Daut wrote: Show nested quote + On December 11 2011 15:56 RiKD wrote: i was debating whether or not to make a buyer beware post but i don't know OP and he got barryg to write the forward so figured i'd give him the benefit of the doubt but lp is getting right down to business i have to admit the cover of this book is pretty baller: i debated it as well, but decided against it at first because i think the focus of this book is tommy angelo type aspects of poker. however, the misleading title of the book bothers me. "how i made my first million" implies more millions were made (which i dont believe), and in general i dont think that someone who made 50% of his money from the dinosaur era of online poker and 45% of his money from self promotion and books is qualified to write books in 2011 giving straight poker advice. i do think he is a better poker player than someone like learnedfromtv who is not a winner in the game he teaches (huge joke imo), and that this book is about a lot of non playing aspects of poker, but its still buyer beware territory to me as well. furthermore, i think slowhabit deserves this kind of criticism and questioning. i havent seen it anywhere and people should know all sides of it before putting a lot of money into buying his material, its not fair to some of the 50nl grinders out there who have 1500 rolls and would be investing a large chunk of their money into something that might not help them at all. after reading "let there be range" i think that book does more of a disservice to players than it helps them. i disagreed with just about all of his sections, and considering the book was priced at $1750, i think it was a huge scam to have cts come in, write a handful of sections on very specific points and sell it at that price. edit: id like to apologize....to all the midstakes players out there that bought let there be range a few years ago. i didnt speak my mind then because i liked cts and didnt want to make him mad or take money away from him and i didnt really want to step on any toes. but in doing so i allowed too many players to invest too much money into a subpar product. sorry guys, i wish i did this years ago. just check out this product.....its basically an attempt at giving people who failed as poker players a chance to make money by coaching. im actually speechless looking at this http://www.dailyvariance.com/poker-videos/poker-coaching-system/

Hey Ryan,

Thanks for the comments. I really appreciate your tone and that's all I ask for.

If some didn't find LTBR helpful, that's fine. It's not for everyone. There are tons of people who bought the book and love it.

As for me making money during the dinosaur era, I was playing regularly up until 2008. Ever since then, I've released three products. One was Advanced PLO Play, which I played 150K hands of PLO on Stars to make sure the strategies are applicable and my results was about 6bb/100. I did very well for the stakes I was teaching.

The other product is about creating passive income with your poker knowledge. Why is it OK for business consultants to teach business owners how to run businesses, why is it OK for poker coaches to teach poker players how to play the game, but why is it not OK for me, who's a successful poker coach and who knows how to run a business, offer my service to players or poker coaches who don't know how to run a poker coaching service professionally?

If I were to ever get into the staking business, I wouldn't hesitate to pay you thousands of dollars to teach me how to run a profitable stable. Can I learn what you know someone else for cheap? Yes. But my time is valuable to me and you seem to do well with your staking so I go to you.

My third product is my newest book. It's basically an online version of Ace on the River. I've been in the poker community for more than six years, played professionally for more than 3 years and have run a successful business about three years. I may not be a top poker player but when it comes to knowing how to manage your life as a professional poker player, I know I'm qualify to teach this subject.

I've never created content on topics I have no expertise at. Since 2008, I HAVEN'T come out with a product on no-limit holdem. That's because I don't play online NL anymore. It would be a disservice to our customers. That's why I went out and asked SplilSuit and Irunlucky to create our NL content.

But when it comes to managing your life as a poker pro and how to create side income with your poker knowledge, I know my content will deliver. I'm not selling you strategies how to crush NL or PLO. I'm selling a book that teach you how to manage your life as a poker pro.

If you want, I can send you a copy of my new book and you are free to write a honest review. You're a highly respected member of this community so I'm sure everyone want to hear your opinion. And if it sucks, you'll save everyone tons of money.

On December 11 2011 20:39 Baalim wrote: You cant say something like "high performance poker" when you havent played properly since 08, i mean just looking at that date I think its fairly easy to say that you are in no shape to teach "high performance poker" and probably not even to people playing 200nl. Enough with the book scam, if the writer isnt currently beating the stakes he shouldnt write books on how to beat them, period.

Hi Baalim,

Do you even know what I meant when I said "high performance poker?" I explicitly said it means being mentally prepared and having the right mindset to perform at the poker table.

You are right about a writer who isn't currently beating the stakes shouldn't write books on how to beat them. That's not what my new book is about. My new book is about how to be successful as a poker player. It DOES NOT offer strategies on how to beat NL or PLO.

On December 12 2011 23:38 SlowHabit wrote: Show nested quote + On December 11 2011 19:18 Daut wrote:   On December 11 2011 15:56 RiKD wrote: i was debating whether or not to make a buyer beware post but i don't know OP and he got barryg to write the forward so figured i'd give him the benefit of the doubt but lp is getting right down to business i have to admit the cover of this book is pretty baller: i debated it as well, but decided against it at first because i think the focus of this book is tommy angelo type aspects of poker. however, the misleading title of the book bothers me. "how i made my first million" implies more millions were made (which i dont believe), and in general i dont think that someone who made 50% of his money from the dinosaur era of online poker and 45% of his money from self promotion and books is qualified to write books in 2011 giving straight poker advice. i do think he is a better poker player than someone like learnedfromtv who is not a winner in the game he teaches (huge joke imo), and that this book is about a lot of non playing aspects of poker, but its still buyer beware territory to me as well. furthermore, i think slowhabit deserves this kind of criticism and questioning. i havent seen it anywhere and people should know all sides of it before putting a lot of money into buying his material, its not fair to some of the 50nl grinders out there who have 1500 rolls and would be investing a large chunk of their money into something that might not help them at all. after reading "let there be range" i think that book does more of a disservice to players than it helps them. i disagreed with just about all of his sections, and considering the book was priced at $1750, i think it was a huge scam to have cts come in, write a handful of sections on very specific points and sell it at that price. edit: id like to apologize....to all the midstakes players out there that bought let there be range a few years ago. i didnt speak my mind then because i liked cts and didnt want to make him mad or take money away from him and i didnt really want to step on any toes. but in doing so i allowed too many players to invest too much money into a subpar product. sorry guys, i wish i did this years ago. just check out this product.....its basically an attempt at giving people who failed as poker players a chance to make money by coaching. im actually speechless looking at this http://www.dailyvariance.com/poker-videos/poker-coaching-system/ Hey Ryan, My third product is my newest book. It's basically an online version of Ace on the River. I've been in the poker community for more than six years, played professionally for more than 3 years and have run a successful business about three years. I may not be a top poker player but when it comes to knowing how to manage your life as a professional poker player, I know I'm qualify to teach this subject.

An online version of AotR is all fine and well, but the stuff here:

http://www.dailyvariance.com/poker-books/my-first-million-from-poker/

reads like something Bernie Madoff wrote.

How to get out of downswings quickly ... It's a quick and easy way to solve your stress. Secret revealed on page 179

nigga plz

I can read it and vouch for it if you give it to me for free slowhabit

it could only help

On December 11 2011 20:55 barbieman wrote: I have read poker blueprint & nl workboook and they are the best poker books I've read, including LTBR. I was already winning at nl200 when I read them. Let's just say I'll be surprised if this book isn't a profitable buy for me. If it isn't, I doubt it will hurt my game and the parts that isn't about poker theory are probably entertaining. I've already bought the mental game of poker and I look to improve my approach to poker and how I think about it. And a large part seems to be about surrounding parts of poker. He might not be good enough to beat 10/20 or whatever he was playing anymore, but he is obviously very good at explaining theory. Besides, it seems to be more about psychology than poker theory.

Thank you for support. It means a lot to me.

The book is definitely more about psychology than poker theory.

On December 11 2011 21:31 Pulda wrote: I have no idea whether the content of your book is good, Tri, it very well could be. However what kind of makes me sick and what is definitely not making me want to trust this is the exaggerated style of advertising everywhere on your site. An example (this is on the coaching course page): "Considering that Tri charges $5,000 / hour for his consulting and coaching services, you are getting great value from his expertise. Combine the conference calls and private forum access with the FREE websites and templates, you are getting over $25,000 in value." [http://www.dailyvariance.com/poker-videos/poker-coaching-system/] Do you seriously charge $5,000/hour for private coaching? Or do you, say, charge $50 for a webinar, get like 100 viewers and that makes it a $5,000 hourly rate? Also since you probably don't (can't) run webinars like this every day and preparing one takes some effort, it hardly makes your hourly $5,000. I feel like a lot of the stuff you claim is way over the top in the same manner, for example the tips you promise in you new book: "How to build a high-stakes bankroll in just a few weeks ... Tips on page 197, How to avoid running bad ... Once you read Tri's advice, you can't believe you didn't think of it in the first place. Go to page 188" [http://www.dailyvariance.com/poker-books/my-first-million-from-poker/] I also watched one of your recorded free webinars and it was so much fluff and so little actual information that would be to the point (I will admit I haven't seen the full length of it). It might just be my taste and advertising like this could be completely fine, but I just can't help but feel a bit like I'm being fooled when so much of the information appears to be vastly exaggerated or misleading. Does anyone else feel the same way? In my experience this is usually the case of: 1) Make a so-so product. 2) Advertise the hell out of it and make the buyers love it before they even get it. 3) Deliver much less than advertised, but still at least something => basic psychology, customers don't want to feel stupid, they focus on the positives and feel like they 'got something out of it'. I'm not trying to claim that your book is bad or that you're a scammer, that would be a big overstatement at this point, I am however voicing my suspicions...

When I said $5k/session for my consulting services, I'm NOT talking about poker services.

I'm talking about business consulting services. Just last week, a marketing company asked me to come in to give a talk to their sales and marketing team on how to improve their presentations. This is a company that is spending more than $50,000/month in expenses and this doesn't include paying their own employees. $5,000 to them is a drop in the bucket.

To some poker players, they think 1 million is a lot of money. What people don't understand is there is a world much bigger than poker and 1 million is small change for a lot of companies.

On December 12 2011 08:20 Hjorturkall wrote: Damn... if this statement is true Show nested quote + Considering that Tri charges $5,000 / hour for his consulting and coaching services, then...why would you even go through the tedious task of writing a book or even doing anything else than just...consulting for an hour here and there...

Again, it's not per hour. It's per session that can last a whole day.

Because I love writing and it makes me happy.

On December 12 2011 17:30 Bejamin1 wrote: The fact that there are almost no reviews posted on the site really should make customers wary. Why is there so little information out there about what customers thought of the quality of the books that have been produced by this site?

The book isn't released yet.

On December 12 2011 23:11 Mortensen8 wrote: I didn't just make my mind up now I always thought it was shady that he doesn't really play but writes a ton of books and only has pre 2008 results (convenient no tracking sites?) If he's so damn good he could prove all the haters wrong right now and play 25/50 plo on stars for a significant sample he's rolled right? My guess is that he has a bunch of mid stakes guys to consult for material so it is actually ok stuff that is written and not outdated.

I've been very open on my interviews that I don't play poker that much anymore. If I sit down at 25/50PLO, I would get crushed. Those games are tough nowadays.

As for consulting my material, I don't have a bunch of mid-stakes guys to consult, I have a bunch of high-stakes and nosebleed players to consult.

On December 13 2011 01:02 Fayth wrote: I can read it and vouch for it if you give it to me for free slowhabit it could only help

PM me your email.

On December 13 2011 00:33 byrnesam wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2011 23:38 SlowHabit wrote:   On December 11 2011 19:18 Daut wrote:   On December 11 2011 15:56 RiKD wrote: i was debating whether or not to make a buyer beware post but i don't know OP and he got barryg to write the forward so figured i'd give him the benefit of the doubt but lp is getting right down to business i have to admit the cover of this book is pretty baller: i debated it as well, but decided against it at first because i think the focus of this book is tommy angelo type aspects of poker. however, the misleading title of the book bothers me. "how i made my first million" implies more millions were made (which i dont believe), and in general i dont think that someone who made 50% of his money from the dinosaur era of online poker and 45% of his money from self promotion and books is qualified to write books in 2011 giving straight poker advice. i do think he is a better poker player than someone like learnedfromtv who is not a winner in the game he teaches (huge joke imo), and that this book is about a lot of non playing aspects of poker, but its still buyer beware territory to me as well. furthermore, i think slowhabit deserves this kind of criticism and questioning. i havent seen it anywhere and people should know all sides of it before putting a lot of money into buying his material, its not fair to some of the 50nl grinders out there who have 1500 rolls and would be investing a large chunk of their money into something that might not help them at all. after reading "let there be range" i think that book does more of a disservice to players than it helps them. i disagreed with just about all of his sections, and considering the book was priced at $1750, i think it was a huge scam to have cts come in, write a handful of sections on very specific points and sell it at that price. edit: id like to apologize....to all the midstakes players out there that bought let there be range a few years ago. i didnt speak my mind then because i liked cts and didnt want to make him mad or take money away from him and i didnt really want to step on any toes. but in doing so i allowed too many players to invest too much money into a subpar product. sorry guys, i wish i did this years ago. just check out this product.....its basically an attempt at giving people who failed as poker players a chance to make money by coaching. im actually speechless looking at this http://www.dailyvariance.com/poker-videos/poker-coaching-system/ Hey Ryan, My third product is my newest book. It's basically an online version of Ace on the River. I've been in the poker community for more than six years, played professionally for more than 3 years and have run a successful business about three years. I may not be a top poker player but when it comes to knowing how to manage your life as a professional poker player, I know I'm qualify to teach this subject. An online version of AotR is all fine and well, but the stuff here: http://www.dailyvariance.com/poker-books/my-first-million-from-poker/ reads like something Bernie Madoff wrote.   How to get out of downswings quickly ... It's a quick and easy way to solve your stress. Secret revealed on page 179 nigga plz

Once Fayth reads the book, please comment on this.

On December 13 2011 01:02 Fayth wrote: I can read it and vouch for it if you give it to me for free slowhabit it could only help

Sent

So im supposed to believe I can build a high stakes bankroll in a matter of weeks, avoid tilt and play my A game a majority of the time from a guy who earned between "$50k and $300k" since 2008.

Such a wild range between from a guy who advocates tracking results in his own books. Im just going to go ahead and call it that its less than $50k and probably more likely <$0. Because if it was anywhere near $100k from poker you would be able to provide proof.

On December 12 2011 23:41 SlowHabit wrote: You are right about a writer who isn't currently beating the stakes shouldn't write books on how to beat them. That's not what my new book is about. My new book is about how to be successful as a poker player. It DOES NOT offer strategies on how to beat NL or PLO.

http://www.dailyvariance.com/poker-books/my-first-million-from-poker/

You need the right strategies and that's exactly what How I Made My First Million From Poker delivers.

How Tri Made a Million From Poker ... You won't believe the unorthodox concepts that he used. Learn his strategies on page 247

Jesus christ man



Ill just go ahead and take Fayths original read on the book

On December 12 2011 22:59 Fayth wrote: this book is probably garbage

On December 13 2011 02:47 byrnesam wrote: So im supposed to believe I can build a high stakes bankroll in a matter of weeks, avoid tilt and play my A game a majority of the time from a guy who earned between "$50k and $300k" since 2008. Such a wild range between from a guy who advocates tracking results in his own books. Im just going to go ahead and call it that its less than $50k and probably more likely <$0. Because if it was anywhere near $100k from poker you would be able to provide proof.

The main reason why I gave a wide range is because I don't want to give exact results. That's between me, my CPA, and the IRS that enjoy my yearly taxes.

Also, besides my winnings online, I play tons of live cash games during the WSOP. I regularly play 10/20NL and 25/50NL (when it's good) at Bellagio during the WSOP the past few years and at Aria last summer.

On December 13 2011 01:07 SlowHabit wrote: Show nested quote + On December 11 2011 21:31 Pulda wrote: I have no idea whether the content of your book is good, Tri, it very well could be. However what kind of makes me sick and what is definitely not making me want to trust this is the exaggerated style of advertising everywhere on your site. An example (this is on the coaching course page): "Considering that Tri charges $5,000 / hour for his consulting and coaching services, you are getting great value from his expertise. Combine the conference calls and private forum access with the FREE websites and templates, you are getting over $25,000 in value." [http://www.dailyvariance.com/poker-videos/poker-coaching-system/] Do you seriously charge $5,000/hour for private coaching? Or do you, say, charge $50 for a webinar, get like 100 viewers and that makes it a $5,000 hourly rate? Also since you probably don't (can't) run webinars like this every day and preparing one takes some effort, it hardly makes your hourly $5,000. I feel like a lot of the stuff you claim is way over the top in the same manner, for example the tips you promise in you new book: "How to build a high-stakes bankroll in just a few weeks ... Tips on page 197, How to avoid running bad ... Once you read Tri's advice, you can't believe you didn't think of it in the first place. Go to page 188" [http://www.dailyvariance.com/poker-books/my-first-million-from-poker/] I also watched one of your recorded free webinars and it was so much fluff and so little actual information that would be to the point (I will admit I haven't seen the full length of it). It might just be my taste and advertising like this could be completely fine, but I just can't help but feel a bit like I'm being fooled when so much of the information appears to be vastly exaggerated or misleading. Does anyone else feel the same way? In my experience this is usually the case of: 1) Make a so-so product. 2) Advertise the hell out of it and make the buyers love it before they even get it. 3) Deliver much less than advertised, but still at least something => basic psychology, customers don't want to feel stupid, they focus on the positives and feel like they 'got something out of it'. I'm not trying to claim that your book is bad or that you're a scammer, that would be a big overstatement at this point, I am however voicing my suspicions... When I said $5k/session for my consulting services, I'm NOT talking about poker services. I'm talking about business consulting services. Just last week, a marketing company asked me to come in to give a talk to their sales and marketing team on how to improve their presentations. This is a company that is spending more than $50,000/month in expenses and this doesn't include paying their own employees. $5,000 to them is a drop in the bucket. To some poker players, they think 1 million is a lot of money. What people don't understand is there is a world much bigger than poker and 1 million is small change for a lot of companies.

please, what experiences and knowledge do you have to even make that kind of statement like you are someone that understands? Have you even made a million dollars on any of your ventures? You have a small online publishing company that caters to a niche market of poker players who don't understand the concept of value outside the felt, this is not an extraordinary accomplishment. Your competitive edge in the market your in is that 99% of your competition who would be "qualified" see better value in their profession and/or are too lazy to bother with the tedious task of writing and publishing books.

I tried to look you up on linkedin in case you've actually done something outside of this that is worth mentioning but you don't even have a profile.

The company who tried to hire you as a business consultant must be just as naive as the poker players you are selling your books to, you don't seem to be qualified in either field.

Kaboom,

After graduating from college, I became a poker pro and started my own publishing company. So you're right, I have no other experience in other fields. That must also mean I can't read books or go to business seminars to improve my understanding of the world.

If you talk to ANY successful entrepreneur, they will tell you the money in poker is peanuts compare to other niches, and it's not close.

I live in a small community called Little Saigon (about 45 mins from Los Angeles, California) where there are so many unassuming millionaires that you would think money grow on trees. They own boring businesses like nail salons, Pho restaurants, insurance agencies, etc. The best part about all of this? They barely speak any English. Imagine that.

this is getting old. leave him alone guys

why is everyone hating? I could understand it if you guys were angry customers but most of you probably have never purchased anything off his store. I agree that his pricing policy looks kinda shady but actually makes sense when you keep in mind that poker evolves pretty quickly and therefore the information of the product also becomes less valuable. I cant speak for his newest book but I have always been satisfied with content offered by his website.

lol is this a joke? Some dude who essentially hasn't made money from poker in years trying to pawn his "book" on people.

Also, even with all the memes $50k-$300k range is not getting enough attention. That post is fucking gold.
1. Who the fuck doesn't know how much money they've made. There is a big difference between $50k and $300k.
2. Ever the upper end of that range is mediocre at best for over 3 years of poker for someone trying to teach people--basically less than a decent mid-stakes reg. At the lower end, it's just ROFLbad.

Also I'm going to call bull on the consulting figure. For $5k/session, a company can hire legit presentation coaches, not this reject who tries to promote his poker book by posting on internet forums.

On December 13 2011 03:43 def_jammer wrote: why is everyone hating? I could understand it if you guys were angry customers but most of you probably have never purchased anything off his store. I agree that his pricing policy looks kinda shady but actually makes sense when you keep in mind that poker evolves pretty quickly and therefore the information of the product also becomes less valuable. I cant speak for his newest book but I have always been satisfied with content offered by his website.

cuz people who try to pawn crap on other people deserve to be ridiculed by said people.

On December 13 2011 03:30 SlowHabit wrote: Kaboom, After graduating from college, I became a poker pro and started my own publishing company. So you're right, I have no other experience in other fields. That must also mean I can't read books or go to business seminars to improve my understanding of the world. If you talk to ANY successful entrepreneur, they will tell you the money in poker is peanuts compare to other niches, and it's not close. I live in a small community called Little Saigon (about 45 mins from Los Angeles, California) where there are so many unassuming millionaires that you would think money grow on trees. They own boring businesses like nail salons, Pho restaurants, insurance agencies, etc. The best part about all of this? They barely speak any English. Imagine that.

I'm confident that I've spent more time with more successful people than you have, that is if your definition of success is how much money you have made or make which I'm assuming is your definition of success. None of the people I've ever had the pleasure of having something as trivial as a conversation over dinner would say such a statement like yourself. Whatever "business seminars" or books you've read to improve your understanding of this world we live in, to be blunt your wasted a lot of time thus far.

Also for the record, Vietnamese people are some of the hardest working people in the USA because of where they come from and they can easily attain happiness in running small businesses such as the ones you've mentioned above. Being someone who has spent over 6 months in various parts of Vietnam in the past I can tell you for a fact that if I was from Vietnam I would be very happy even if I made $10 an hour.

You really should take a trip to your home country and spend some time somewhere rural like along the Mekong and experience where your roots lie and understand your very privileged to be in the United States and have the opportunities to write these self proclaimed books that are of value.

i'm not really going to speak my opinion yet but i'm very interested to see what fayth thinks about the book

On December 13 2011 03:46 phexac wrote: lol is this a joke? Some dude who essentially hasn't made money from poker in years trying to pawn his "book" on people. Also, even with all the memes $50k-$300k range is not getting enough attention. That post is fucking gold. 1. Who the fuck doesn't know how much money they've made. There is a big difference between $50k and $300k.

actually for that part of it, his tax/IRS answer seems pretty reasonable to me when you read between the lines.

by book from guy who averaged 12.5k-75k a year for last 4 years? No ty

On December 13 2011 04:39 bigredhoss wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 03:46 phexac wrote: lol is this a joke? Some dude who essentially hasn't made money from poker in years trying to pawn his "book" on people. Also, even with all the memes $50k-$300k range is not getting enough attention. That post is fucking gold. 1. Who the fuck doesn't know how much money they've made. There is a big difference between $50k and $300k. actually for that part of it, his tax/IRS answer seems pretty reasonable to me when you read between the lines.

so he can't say how much he make in order to evade taxes...

then makes a book about his first million

i doubt he's evading taxes, more like taking liberal advantage of write-offs or whatever else can be legally done to decrease his taxes.

gonna be very interesting to hear fayths thoughts

tbh let there be range was the book that kicked off my midstakes+ careear together with playing less tables, i thought it was mindblowing good, atleast for me

"turning made hand into bluff" was like, w00000000000000000t opened up a whole new dimension for the spazzmongo as i am and it pretty much set me on the right path

alltho "im stayin out of this one"

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/153885/no-ables-allowed

What are you talking about ... this is the internet since when is the IRS going through your internet posts

By writing those books you state that you are an extremely good poker player and would like to share your insight of the game and the right mindset for a set price. Coaches do pretty much the same thing except each one of them post long term results to show their customers that they are worth the $/hr they are offering. Coaches share their insight of the game and in fact most of them probably earn way less from that althought they have far better results ( im guessing ). So all in all it doesnt matter what your book is about. Mindset or teaching how to beat a specific poker game it does not matter. You dont see a failed politician write a book on whats the right mindset to become the president. What I mean is even I could write a book on what i think is the right mindset to become a professional winning poker player but i will 100% at this point be wrong. If you are making a statement you should provide facts and results proving its worth otherwise you are just trying to cheaply rip people off and noone will allow that here. I think mods should take some action too why would you let the guy have a cheap commercial if he s not proving his worth ? It's not like we didnt give him a chance to do so, but answering to that question with 50-300k is just an insult to the community...

On December 13 2011 01:07 SlowHabit wrote: When I said $5k/session for my consulting services, I'm NOT talking about poker services. I'm talking about business consulting services. Just last week, a marketing company asked me to come in to give a talk to their sales and marketing team on how to improve their presentations. This is a company that is spending more than $50,000/month in expenses and this doesn't include paying their own employees. $5,000 to them is a drop in the bucket. To some poker players, they think 1 million is a lot of money. What people don't understand is there is a world much bigger than poker and 1 million is small change for a lot of companies.

Wow. I once won $1000 in a matter of roughly 15 seconds playing under-rolled... Suppose it's good business practice to claim I make an average income of $240k/hr?

edit - deleted cosmo bash because carthac believes it to be completely out of line - although I would argue telling a forum they're a bunch of cowardly followers because they are voicing there opinion vs. an obvious shady character is out of line.

On December 13 2011 01:10 SlowHabit wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2011 08:20 Hjorturkall wrote: Damn... if this statement is true   Considering that Tri charges $5,000 / hour for his consulting and coaching services, then...why would you even go through the tedious task of writing a book or even doing anything else than just...consulting for an hour here and there... Again, it's not per hour. It's per session that can last a whole day. Because I love writing and it makes me happy.

Your site says per hour. And then it proceeds to calculate the "value customers are getting" based on that $5000/hour.
And that is merely one example.

On December 13 2011 04:39 bigredhoss wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 03:46 phexac wrote: lol is this a joke? Some dude who essentially hasn't made money from poker in years trying to pawn his "book" on people. Also, even with all the memes $50k-$300k range is not getting enough attention. That post is fucking gold. 1. Who the fuck doesn't know how much money they've made. There is a big difference between $50k and $300k. actually for that part of it, his tax/IRS answer seems pretty reasonable to me when you read between the lines.

lol dude don't be ridiculous

On December 13 2011 01:10 SlowHabit wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2011 08:20 Hjorturkall wrote: Damn... if this statement is true   Considering that Tri charges $5,000 / hour for his consulting and coaching services, then...why would you even go through the tedious task of writing a book or even doing anything else than just...consulting for an hour here and there... Again, it's not per hour. It's per session that can last a whole day. Because I love writing and it makes me happy.

Okay...
I do truly appreciate you answering the posts aimed at you...

But do note that I copied that quote directly from your site... Even though I'm not a native English speaking guy, I'm almost certain that $5000/hour means...per hour, not per session and I fail to comprehend how one can arrive at that assumption...

In addition to that, I browsed your page for about 5 minutes and found this

his website said My hourly per session is $5,000.

and now we actually have a combination of these two highly complex concepts...hourly...and session...
Again - i'm inclined to understand hourly as per hour...meaning, in this instance, a 4 hour sessino would cost 20k...

This as well directly contradicts you saying

Slowhabit said When I said $5k/session for my consulting services, I'm NOT talking about poker services.

As the "my hourly is 5k" quote is taken from your " My Poker Coaching" website
+ Show Spoiler +

On December 13 2011 09:05 phexac wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 04:39 bigredhoss wrote:   On December 13 2011 03:46 phexac wrote: lol is this a joke? Some dude who essentially hasn't made money from poker in years trying to pawn his "book" on people. Also, even with all the memes $50k-$300k range is not getting enough attention. That post is fucking gold. 1. Who the fuck doesn't know how much money they've made. There is a big difference between $50k and $300k. actually for that part of it, his tax/IRS answer seems pretty reasonable to me when you read between the lines. lol dude don't be ridiculous

how am i being ridiculous -.-

On December 13 2011 09:22 Hjorturkall wrote: + Show Spoiler + Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 01:10 SlowHabit wrote:   On December 12 2011 08:20 Hjorturkall wrote: Damn... if this statement is true   Considering that Tri charges $5,000 / hour for his consulting and coaching services, then...why would you even go through the tedious task of writing a book or even doing anything else than just...consulting for an hour here and there... Again, it's not per hour. It's per session that can last a whole day. Because I love writing and it makes me happy. Okay... I do truly appreciate you answering the posts aimed at you... But do note that I copied that quote directly from your site... Even though I'm not a native English speaking guy, I'm almost certain that $5000/hour means...per hour, not per session and I fail to comprehend how one can arrive at that assumption... In addition to that, I browsed your page for about 5 minutes and found this   his website said My hourly per session is $5,000. and now we actually have a combination of these two highly complex concepts...hourly...and session... Again - i'm inclined to understand hourly as per hour...meaning, in this instance, a 4 hour sessino would cost 20k... This as well directly contradicts you saying   Slowhabit said When I said $5k/session for my consulting services, I'm NOT talking about poker services. As the "my hourly is 5k" quote is taken from your " My Poker Coaching" website + Show Spoiler + source http://www.dailyvariance.com/slowhabit-poker-coaching-program/

Well constructed, looking forward to the explanation.

On December 13 2011 01:10 SlowHabit wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2011 08:20 Hjorturkall wrote: Damn... if this statement is true   Considering that Tri charges $5,000 / hour for his consulting and coaching services, then...why would you even go through the tedious task of writing a book or even doing anything else than just...consulting for an hour here and there... Again, it's not per hour. It's per session that can last a whole day.

Then why did it say per hour? Why. did. it. say. per. hour. This. is. written. by. you.
If. it. isn't. per. hour. then. you. knowingly. lied. did. you. not?.
How am I supposed to believe that you were even hired by a company for $5k/session
when you just admitted to blatantly lying about your hourly rate to promote your book?
Why did you write a blatantly false statement either just now or in your promotional text?
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On December 12 2011 22:46 JonnyCosMo wrote: I mean most of you guys are being haters in this thread just because Daut posted a negative review. Fucking lemmings go walk off a cliff while your at it.

No, most of us are being vary as fuck because his entire marketing strategy is
making false implications and/or implying/making shady as hell claims.

If I told tutz that he's an idiot for running so bad in poker and that there was a simple way
he could've avoided that statistical probability he would consider punching me in the face
because he had no control over that, but when this guy comes here and implies there is a way to control it
you call people haters?

How to avoid running bad ... Once you read Tri's advice, you can't believe you didn't think of it in the first place. Go to page 188

How to get out of downswings quickly ... It's a quick and easy way to solve your stress. Secret revealed on page 179

+ Show Spoiler +

W/ apologies to tutz if it wasn't his graph that I saw here once, ~150BI under AI-EV or something.

theres enuuuuuuuuuuuuuf poker books saturating the market for the next 5 years post 4/15.

Post more meaningless high-stakes 'OMG live poker moments!' please, or hell, continue butchering the ROFL thread.

Completely out of line.

I enjoyed Ace on the River a lot and will probably get this book. $47 seems a little steep so I'll probably wait a while for the price to drop or get it on amazon for cheaper.

ok I got some stuff to do, I'll start reading tonight and hopefully be done within the next 2-3 days

I never really wrote any detailed reviews of anything but I'll do my best

On December 12 2011 22:44 JonnyCosMo wrote: Interesting thread, thou I pre-ordered the book before reading through this. Wasn't expecting the book to have anything ground-breaking or game changing anyways. I've always had a very skewed view of poker coaching because I lived with two different people who coached as a way to supplement their incomes. In all honesty, I probably would have dabbled in coaching too if I was better at explaining my thoughts or more well known. Back in the days, there were so many new players seeking advice from any players who were already established in playing bigger games. Let's take Jerry Yang (have nothing against the man, he seems like a nice guy) Let's say Jerry Yang had open sign ups for poker lessons for some XXXXX$ amount. It'd be pretty obvious to anyone who ever has read an online forum that this would be a worthless investment. However, to your casual TV viewer or new poker player who doesn't know anything about poker, this could be viewed has an awesome oppurtunity. Name recognition is huge when it comes to these things. There is a lot of the blind leading the blind going on when it comes to poker coaching. This is going to be the best piece of advice in this thread: There is only one sure fire way to get better. Play a lot. I can't emphasize this enough. Play through your upswings and your downswings. Study what your opponents are doing, and do it better. Then play some more. The most common theme among all the really great poker players I personally know is that they all play a lot. They've played absurd hours (I'm talking 30+ hour straight sessions). They don't waste the majority of their times lurking internet forums, reading books, or watching videos. They might do all 3 of those things, but the majority of their time is spent playing poker and figuring out what works and doesn't work for themselves. On the topic of Let There Be Range, I thought it was a great read. Yes it was a little pricey when it was released, but in all honesty, if you played higher than $3/6 at the time it was a mandatory read for online play. You know that most of your opponents would be reading the book, and not reading the book would keep you behind an evolving game. On top of that, it was the best book released on NLHold'em at the time. Try naming a book that had better information than what was in Let There Be Range. Obviously don't take things written in LTBR as the biblical truth of the game. Questioning the information in there is normal and use it as more of a guide / reference instead of religious truth. With all that said, I prolly would have still gotten this new book just to see what everyone else might be reading. + Show Spoiler + On a side note, this makes me sick: http://www.dailyvariance.com/poker-videos/poker-coaching-system Let's make a book teaching people how to hustle prop bets while your at it. Call it the 250k Prop Bet Hustling Course: How to make 250k/Year Hustling You should be hung for writing such garbage.

Hey Cosmo,

Thanks for the support. It takes tremendous courage to voice your opinion when it's not in the majority.

I hope you like the new book.

If you have tilt or other degen retardation problems, a book won't help you.

On December 13 2011 14:14 SlowHabit wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2011 22:44 JonnyCosMo wrote: Interesting thread, thou I pre-ordered the book before reading through this. Wasn't expecting the book to have anything ground-breaking or game changing anyways. I've always had a very skewed view of poker coaching because I lived with two different people who coached as a way to supplement their incomes. In all honesty, I probably would have dabbled in coaching too if I was better at explaining my thoughts or more well known. Back in the days, there were so many new players seeking advice from any players who were already established in playing bigger games. Let's take Jerry Yang (have nothing against the man, he seems like a nice guy) Let's say Jerry Yang had open sign ups for poker lessons for some XXXXX$ amount. It'd be pretty obvious to anyone who ever has read an online forum that this would be a worthless investment. However, to your casual TV viewer or new poker player who doesn't know anything about poker, this could be viewed has an awesome oppurtunity. Name recognition is huge when it comes to these things. There is a lot of the blind leading the blind going on when it comes to poker coaching. This is going to be the best piece of advice in this thread: There is only one sure fire way to get better. Play a lot. I can't emphasize this enough. Play through your upswings and your downswings. Study what your opponents are doing, and do it better. Then play some more. The most common theme among all the really great poker players I personally know is that they all play a lot. They've played absurd hours (I'm talking 30+ hour straight sessions). They don't waste the majority of their times lurking internet forums, reading books, or watching videos. They might do all 3 of those things, but the majority of their time is spent playing poker and figuring out what works and doesn't work for themselves. On the topic of Let There Be Range, I thought it was a great read. Yes it was a little pricey when it was released, but in all honesty, if you played higher than $3/6 at the time it was a mandatory read for online play. You know that most of your opponents would be reading the book, and not reading the book would keep you behind an evolving game. On top of that, it was the best book released on NLHold'em at the time. Try naming a book that had better information than what was in Let There Be Range. Obviously don't take things written in LTBR as the biblical truth of the game. Questioning the information in there is normal and use it as more of a guide / reference instead of religious truth. With all that said, I prolly would have still gotten this new book just to see what everyone else might be reading. + Show Spoiler + On a side note, this makes me sick: http://www.dailyvariance.com/poker-videos/poker-coaching-system Let's make a book teaching people how to hustle prop bets while your at it. Call it the 250k Prop Bet Hustling Course: How to make 250k/Year Hustling You should be hung for writing such garbage. Hey Cosmo, Thanks for the support. It takes tremendous courage to voice your opinion when it's not in the majority. I hope you like the new book.

I hope you read my spoiler

ouch op, you know its going bad when the guy supporting u has the worst posts in ROFL thread

hahahahaha

On December 13 2011 14:31 JonnyCosMo wrote: I hope you read my spoiler

Of course I did.

UPDATE:

eBook format was sent this morning. If you haven't receive your copy, please email support@dailyvariance.com.

Paperback books were sent these past few days. You should receive it sometimes this week if you live in the US. If you're in Europe, it takes about 10-14 business days.

Enjoy!

True story: Was at a Leggo party in Vegas once and Tri was really drunk and I was like "Hey Tri" and he blew me off. So f this book.

But I do think people are being a bit unreasonably harsh on him. I liked LTBR tbh, def some hugely positive ROI% if not for the fact that at least I knew what my opponents were reading.

haven't gotten over it yet? lol :D

lol he gave me a copy to read before release, it was a huge waste of my time and alot of the infomation is misleading or straight up false..

sorry tri, but the truth burns sometimes.

In the introduction you state,

"The Misconception" - "Most people assume thatin order to crush poker, you need advanced math or a high IQ. Or perhaps a pair of giant testicles. That isn't true at all."

Actually I can tell you right now, you do need to be quick on your math, definately way above average IQ and big balls. I mean what the hell, did you expect to teach the guy at macdonalds who couldnt get into college how to crush poker? Get real.

Thats just 1 example, you're basically trying to sell this to everyone and telling them that they can all make it. I haven't been as evil, during my time as a poker player, i've told hundreds of people to stay off poker because its fucking hard almost impossible to make a million in this game. Just look at the entire player pool and how many have actually done it (bar donkament winners maybe 100?)

The whole book is just wishy washy stuff about the mentalities of staying strong as a poker player, look if anyone wants some motivation go read my blog, because this book is just garbage.

Wobbly, I totally agree with you when you say poker is not for everyone by far. I'm pretty sure there's way more than 100 people who have made a million playing though. What are you basing that estimate on?

no basis.. just some silly guestimate. Im not counting any money won from MTTs tho, only online NL cash games. I can prob think of like 30 or so names on stars so prob 70 or so from all the other sites combined..

But if u wanna include plo and FLH prob like 300? It wouldnt be very many tbh.

what people need to understand is that poker is a zero sum game, for you to win 1mil, someone has to lose more than 1mil (including rake)

or 1000 people have to lose 1000$

which is quite common

On December 13 2011 21:00 wobbly_au wrote: lol he gave me a copy to read before release, it was a huge waste of my time and alot of the infomation is misleading or straight up false..

So you had already read pages 179 and 188 but still went $500k below EV?

How not amazing.

"denial runs the industry"

-Rekrul


where is he btw?

i was going to write a long ass post ripping this thing apart, but i wont, i think our work here is done and this is why LP > other forums :3

nono please do ball we insist.

On December 13 2011 23:11 BILAT_POWER!!! wrote: nono please do ball we insist.

+1 so that we is more justified

+2

+3

+4

So I guess anheway is fat, Khan overweight and Lemon severly obese (you can't + >1 guys )
+1 though, I think Tri needs to read more criticism of his behavior to perhaps realize that what he's doing isn't cool.

On December 13 2011 23:01 Baalim wrote: i was going to write a long ass post ripping this thing apart, but i wont, i think our work here is done and this is why LP > other forums :3

Wtf. Im not satisfied until everyone does their share of ripping.

On December 14 2011 12:57 taco wrote: So I guess anheway is fat..

I am ... sorta

On December 13 2011 21:13 wobbly_au wrote: In the introduction you state, "The Misconception" - "Most people assume thatin order to crush poker, you need advanced math or a high IQ. Or perhaps a pair of giant testicles. That isn't true at all." Actually I can tell you right now, you do need to be quick on your math, definately way above average IQ and big balls. I mean what the hell, did you expect to teach the guy at macdonalds who couldnt get into college how to crush poker? Get real. Thats just 1 example, you're basically trying to sell this to everyone and telling them that they can all make it. I haven't been as evil, during my time as a poker player, i've told hundreds of people to stay off poker because its fucking hard almost impossible to make a million in this game. Just look at the entire player pool and how many have actually done it (bar donkament winners maybe 100?) The whole book is just wishy washy stuff about the mentalities of staying strong as a poker player, look if anyone wants some motivation go read my blog, because this book is just garbage.

Do you find Let there be range a garbage as well?

never read let there be range. wasnt that ridic overpriced?

On December 14 2011 18:23 wobbly_au wrote: never read let there be range. wasnt that ridic overpriced?

nono, it only cost like 1750$.. a bargain!