who here is a tournament reg on stars?

just like the title says, who here plays tournaments regularly on stars (and possibly other sites)
what kind of tournaments do you play (buy-in, limits)
how many do you play per day or just share any insight on how much volume you play, etc.

I play on a daily basis since i have vacation now but i wouldnt call myself a reg or a sick grinder, i play about 10 games a day from 5.5 to 55$

I play when I'm bored from HU (2-5 times/month) and then I open everything from 5.5 to 215 up to 30-40 tables

neilly is telling me there are grinders making 100+ hour playing tournaments lower then $55 and there is no LP grinders playing them?

I bubbled a final table of a $11, 20k

the day i made this thread, AK vs AQ so had nothing interesting to say until now really nothing was easier except having to make 75 bucks for 8 hours of meat grinding them donk and fish

On August 26 2011 08:56 casinocasino wrote: neilly is telling me there are grinders making 100+ hour playing tournaments lower then $55 and there is no LP grinders playing them? I bubbled a final table of a $11, 20k the day i made this thread, AK vs AQ so had nothing interesting to say until now really nothing was easier except having to make 75 bucks for 8 hours of meat grinding them donk and fish

sounds legit. i think chino rheem told me something similar once.

But honestly if you're interested in getting into tournaments i would check out what stars offers in terms of rebuys. You'll have a shit ton of short term volatility but the biggest ROI and probably slightly reduced long term variance.

I've played quite a lot of stars tournaments, but not really much since black friday (cashed out 95% of roll afterwards, have tried to play some turbos to reroll, but not many enough to expect a win and alas, I haven't had one)

but well, I used to play mostly every nlhe tourney between $5 and $50 starting between 1 and 5 pm ET. that included $3 rebuy, $20 1r1a, one or two $50 depending on how late I felt like staying up, $10rebuy, one $5, 1 or 2 $20 tourneys depending on how early I felt like starting, a couple $10 ones, some turbos (one $5, two times $11 and $16.50), $20 HU. and probably a couple more. They've also added more recently. On sundays I'd also play SM occasionally, and whatever other extra tourneys were hosting. I did this while going to school and or working, and from 2008 through 2010 I probably played an average of one day per week or so (a little more than 2k tourneys total). I absolutely would not recommend grinding mtts for anyone depending on poker as a source of income - I think on one occasion my br dropped from $16k to $6k over the course of several months without any significant cashes- but if you're decent at tournaments and you don't depend on the money, it's absolutely awesome because it's possible to get huge roi's over a long enough timespan. what essentially happens is that you're playing the lottery, just with postiive odds, and occasionally you suddenly get significant amounts of cash for having had fun an evening that you can spend freely as you weren't depending on it.

rebuys are also awesome, lowest rake of any tournament, more underrolled morons playing than in other tourneys, and you are much more capable of building a big stack early than in other tourneys. fun tidbit, I always preferred playing on tuesdays over mondays, because the blind structures of the $3 and 10 rebuys alternate. I don't fully know how it goes for the entire week, but I know that sundays have 12 minute blinds for each, mondays have 15 minute blinds in 11 rebuy and 10minute blinds for 3 rebuy, tuesdays have 15 minute blinds for 3 rebuy 10 for 11. that basically means that on tuesdays, the $3 and $11 rebuys finish at roughly the same time, while on mondays, the 11 finishes 3-4 hours later than the 3.

On August 26 2011 17:12 Liquid`Drone wrote: I've played quite a lot of stars tournaments, but not really much since black friday (cashed out 95% of roll afterwards, have tried to play some turbos to reroll, but not many enough to expect a win and alas, I haven't had one) but well, I used to play mostly every nlhe tourney between $5 and $50 starting between 1 and 5 pm ET. that included $3 rebuy, $20 1r1a, one or two $50 depending on how late I felt like staying up, $10rebuy, one $5, 1 or 2 $20 tourneys depending on how early I felt like starting, a couple $10 ones, some turbos (one $5, two times $11 and $16.50), $20 HU. and probably a couple more. They've also added more recently. On sundays I'd also play SM occasionally, and whatever other extra tourneys were hosting. I did this while going to school and or working, and from 2008 through 2010 I probably played an average of one day per week or so (a little more than 2k tourneys total). I absolutely would not recommend grinding mtts for anyone depending on poker as a source of income - I think on one occasion my br dropped from $16k to $6k over the course of several months without any significant cashes- but if you're decent at tournaments and you don't depend on the money, it's absolutely awesome because it's possible to get huge roi's over a long enough timespan. what essentially happens is that you're playing the lottery, just with postiive odds, and occasionally you suddenly get significant amounts of cash for having had fun an evening that you can spend freely as you weren't depending on it. rebuys are also awesome, lowest rake of any tournament, more underrolled morons playing than in other tourneys, and you are much more capable of building a big stack early than in other tourneys. fun tidbit, I always preferred playing on tuesdays over mondays, because the blind structures of the $3 and 10 rebuys alternate. I don't fully know how it goes for the entire week, but I know that sundays have 12 minute blinds for each, mondays have 15 minute blinds in 11 rebuy and 10minute blinds for 3 rebuy, tuesdays have 15 minute blinds for 3 rebuy 10 for 11. that basically means that on tuesdays, the $3 and $11 rebuys finish at roughly the same time, while on mondays, the 11 finishes 3-4 hours later than the 3.

insightful post, thank you.

I dont play very many mtts, maybe 10 a day at most, and a high% of turbos, used to play a lot more. and i play low stakes too.

I just started playing them last week. Alot of people I stake/staked do very well. Was super bored so started with 50$ grinding 10 cent's to 3$ 90man+ sng's. Seems pretty easy and soft as long as you got a professional mindset and sick multitablin abiltys. Got up to 600 cheated a bit in cashgames. Now to play for some real m00nies

1,906 $0.19 $1 34% $361

I also saw about 10 players with lp avatars today they out there

i dont see how hourly is gonna be 100+. as for liquiddrone's post about depending on income, i suppose it depends on edge and living expenses.

what you need to do if youw ant to grind tourneys is find a staple game....primarily, the 180 mans, because they run so often, and add the other MTTs. the key to mtt's is volume. unless you are playing exclusively high stakes MTTs with smaller fields, you need to play more games. i remember one of the best 180 man regs at the $12 and $36 levels telling me he expects to win 1 of those out of every 100 games, with other cashes, of course.

if you play 100 games of 180 mans a day, and are a winning player, you can make a living at them.

the 180 mans are great practice for bigger MTTs, are fairly mechanical, and have decent top payouts for the buy in. they also fill up very quickly, so most tourney players will specialize in those until they have comfortable cushion to withstand the variance of larger fields. personally, what i liked to do was fire up 30 or so 180s a day and about 20 or so regular MTTs, but i needed to put in waaaay more volume than i actually did.

bottom line, though, is if you like rakeback, cash games are better. you can also quit cashgames whenever, where tourneys suck up all of your day. cash games will also be more profitable, i believe, unless you are mig or elky, daut, etc

a word to the wise, and props for liquiddrone for pointing it out: tourneys have crazy variance, as im sure we all know, but 100 buy in swings can happen. i know several prominent 180 man regs that have taken 100 buy in swings. i was once told by a good cash game player that swings that like only happen to a retard....well the biggest winner in the 180 mans has taken 100 buy in swings, and i talked with him about it. they can happen. typically, a good bankroll for a certain buy in is 100 games, but i think for games like 180 mans you need to exercise even more conservative bankroll, and have something like 200 buy ins or more for the $12s, if you plan to be a reg. the higher the buy in, the more money you need. for regular MTTs, i think something like 100 buy ins is fine, i suppose. mind you, the 180s im talking about are the turbos, most specifically, the $12 turbos.

12$ turbo 45 mans are dead, they are 15$ now ;p

On September 03 2011 00:05 Drakk wrote: 12$ turbo 45 mans are dead, they are 15$ now ;p

yeah, made me turn into a sad panda