What do you put me on?

Game is 10/25 live. I've been playing solid but just got flush over flushed for a 10k pot. About 15 minutes ago someone says they are starting 25/50 and asks if I want to play. I say no, I'm tilted and laugh. Pretty sure whole table heard me. Anyways, young kid who hasn't done much raises to 100 mid position (4500 stack), good player who can play lag and tag, but has been solid today since he's winning, flats button (30k stack), I flat sb (15k stack).

Flop is J 7 4 rainbow

I check, kid bets 275, button flats, I chk/raise to 800. Kid calls, tag shows his friend his hand and folds.

Turn is Jh bringing a flushdraw. Button now starts bitching in Cantonese to his friend and it's pretty obvious to both of us that he folded a jack. I bet 1250, button calls.

River is an offsuit 3. I put him allin.

What do you put me on?

set? are we supposed to construct a whole range for u?

On July 12 2011 03:58 DooMeR wrote: set? are we supposed to construct a whole range for u?

Yea a range would be nice :3

2 cocktail napkins and a pair of balls

Rumor has spread to San Diego, and I have it on pretty good authority that you're a nit. I put you on a set. <3

In range format: JdJs, JsJc, JcJs, 7d7c, 7c7h, 7c7s, 4c4s, 4s4h, 4s4d

On July 12 2011 04:59 JonnyCosMo wrote: In range format: JdJs, JsJc, JcJs, 7d7c, 7c7h, 7c7s, 4c4s, 4s4h, 4s4d

lol

sigh. :/ there are 0 combos of JJ

this is way up from my level, but still wanna try

value hands: sets, Jx, 56
bluffs: missed gutshots like 89 T8 T9, most of the time with 2 hearts.

Combo-wise you have more bluffs than legit hands, but you give up with busted draws a fair amount of time.

Edit: Not sure about amount of combos vs value hands any more, depends on how often you take that like with 2 hearts vs other cases.

i think you have a set the vast majority of the time given that u posted and asked for your range i guess this is the % of the time you used ur image and bluff in this spot?

On July 12 2011 05:54 n0rthf4ce wrote: sigh. :/ there are 0 combos of JJ

Reconstructed range: 7d7c, 7c7h, 7c7s, 4c4s, 4s4h, 4s4d

Trying hard not to troll further, but I say only sets because I feel like if you had anything else your just clicking buttons. Defending J7s 74s from sb is leaking hard, AJ is weird to c/r here, 65s or other gut shots is kinda clicking buttons

This is vs the $4500 stack right? And not the 30k stack?

tell the tag to stfu and speak english at the table. i hate that shit

Yes, vs 4500 stack

56s.

T9hh, T8hh, 89hh, 77, 44. If he thinks your on tilt and you know this, you can potentially take AJ for thin value (on the flop) and obvious value on later streets

dont think you have QQ+ but if you did somehow have AA i think this would be a good line to take.

otherwise, obviously sets, 56, 89, T9 T8 probably with backdoor flush draw and perhaps AQ KQ w backdoor flush draw. maybe some AJ occasionally. combinatorically it seems a fairly breakeven spot for him if he has KK/AK high (same thing basically). doubt it matters what he does, i think your range matches up perfectly with what % he needs to be ahead to call that you cant be exploited here.

mmm I would fold here most of the time vs you but the fishy table action on the turn might make you do something creative so if I was someone you thought was a good player I would not fold this river after calling turn.

cant have a set, the board has paired!

I think you have 74DD

I think us knowing that your a good player, it would be pretty bad for you to show up with anything that does not have a jack beat.

On July 12 2011 12:51 locoo wrote: i think you have a set the vast majority of the time given that u posted and asked for your range i guess this is the % of the time you used ur image and bluff in this spot?

i think you can have AJ/KJ/QJ here too as well

considering villain called turn he probably has a jack, and if you're trying to bluff out a jack there you'd be kinda dumb (even though a jack here really feels like a bluffcatcher, bad players don't know that) you should have 44 or 77

even though you could be playing T8hh T9hh 89hh 56 like this on flop, you should give up the bluff on river vs someone bad rite?

thx for the input guys. seems interesting so many of you expect me to continue with gutshots on the turn and river

On July 14 2011 01:42 n0rthf4ce wrote: thx for the input guys. seems interesting so many of you expect me to continue with gutshots on the turn and river

on the turn yes, prob not on the river

please posts results

On July 14 2011 20:59 casinocasino wrote: please posts results

what can you have other than sets or AJ when you have an image like that, would you be leveling some unknown kid?

i seriously dont see the purpose of this thread.. the question is so so so pointless.

On July 14 2011 20:59 casinocasino wrote: please posts results

he checked river, and villian checked back KK

On July 16 2011 10:58 wobbly_au wrote: i seriously dont see the purpose of this thread.. the question is so so so pointless.

Talking about pointless... GTFO if you are not interested

the purpose of this thread was to gauge if people thought i would continue to the river with a 3 barrel bluff on this board texture. results: i turned 76 into a bluff on the flop and continued for 3 barrels. got called by KK.
i was gonna give up river but 3 completes 56 and makes it the perfect bluff card second only to an 8.
reasoning is: board texture is terrible to bluff at so villain has to give credit. overestimated opponent again --;

On July 18 2011 16:10 n0rthf4ce wrote: the purpose of this thread was to gauge if people thought i would continue to the river with a 3 barrel bluff on this board texture. results: i turned 76 into a bluff on the flop and continued for 3 barrels. got called by KK. i was gonna give up river but 3 completes 56 and makes it the perfect bluff card second only to an 8. reasoning is: board texture is terrible to bluff at so villain has to give credit. overestimated opponent again --;

ur the worst!

On July 18 2011 18:49 kaboom wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2011 16:10 n0rthf4ce wrote: the purpose of this thread was to gauge if people thought i would continue to the river with a 3 barrel bluff on this board texture. results: i turned 76 into a bluff on the flop and continued for 3 barrels. got called by KK. i was gonna give up river but 3 completes 56 and makes it the perfect bluff card second only to an 8. reasoning is: board texture is terrible to bluff at so villain has to give credit. overestimated opponent again --; ur the worst!

i am the worst!