The Geordie Shore

http://www.mtv.co.uk/shows/geordie-shore



O...........M........F..............G EPIC

exact copy of the jersey shore but with a bunch of people from newcastle... friggen hilarious loooooooooooooool

cant wait for more episodes


The site is now putting only a shortened version up... so here are links to the full episodes (just 2 diff download links, only 1 file):

Episode 1:

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Episode 2:

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Episode 3:

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Episode 4:

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MOAR EPISODES PLZ OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMOGM

obv they topped snookie's boobies

holy crap

Gary (Gaz) = The Situation
Jay = Pauly D
Vicky = JWOWW
Charlotte = Sammi
James = Ronnie
Sophie = Snookie
Greg = Vinny
Holly = Angelina (lol)

wow WOOOOW. Me head just exploded.
Only way they can top this now is to do a season with both of the Jersey and Geordie cast in the same house rofl.

On the side note, they're generally more attractive than the Jersey cast imo.

lol Gary is hilarious

Vicky >>>>jersey shore girls

LOOOL sick find

there is a Toronto SHore (lakeshore) one as well not sure when that is out

lol is this a show where people compete to be the worlds biggest douche?

I can only understand 1/2 of what they're saying

what the fuck is with the whales
and Vicky seems like the town whore

soooooooolid beginning :D

LOOL epic find sir !

On May 27 2011 16:52 LikeASet wrote: I can only understand 1/2 of what they're saying

same here

Sick find, the first clip was good.

I cant wait until the K-Town show is launched.

This is fantastic.

too staged, didn't like it, wtf british people trying to look like american retards

also,

On May 27 2011 16:52 LikeASet wrote: I can only understand 1/2 of what they're saying

+1000

i mwasted but why is ti called geordie shore?

On May 27 2011 23:07 dogmeat wrote: i mwasted but why is ti called geordie shore?

maybe they were wasted

Geordie is the nickname for people from Newcastle. It's like Cockney or Cardi.

this is easily going to be hte best show ever.

halfway through i thought it would be mega awesome if they did a two season thing where it was half jersey shore half geordie shore house, one in england and one in USA, theres no way that could fail ever.

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i hope everyone of them gets herpes

i agree with frinkx... this is really epic. some real mind-expanding stuff... i got so much out of this. one girl showed her big breasts, guys went to the gym and talked about their tans, they drank alcohol, went clubbing, kissed a bunch of girls. and there even was a fight between two guys. oh man, i am so entertained right now... amazing omg i love my life. i like money too. and drinking. and sex. and money.


(forget the montage in the video, i just couldn't find that part of the movie elsewhere... or maybe not.)

On May 28 2011 18:22 Loco wrote: i agree with frinkx... this is really epic. some real mind-expanding stuff... i got so much out of this. one girl showed her big breasts, guys went to the gym and talked about their tans, they drank alcohol, went clubbing, kissed a bunch of girls. and there even was a fight between two guys. oh man, i am so entertained right now... amazing omg i love my life. i like money too. and drinking. and sex. and money.

I don't watch the show but if this is how the episode went then lol, it's basically garbage like most of the other stuff on TV.

Started watching Jersey shore - watched 1 episode from S 3 and im heavily tilted while Geordie Shore's stupidity and ignorance is much better and entertaining

agree this is the whole new lvl

I like how brits say "proper" to almost anything lol

Amazing they got the 4 most minga chicks in England let alone Newcastle for this show.

On May 28 2011 19:21 Spitfiree wrote: Started watching Jersey shore - watched 1 episode from S 3 and im heavily tilted while Geordie Shore's stupidity and ignorance is much better and entertaining

wut, I love jersey shore, but hated geordie

in jersey shore you actually get deep into the dramas and emotional states of the characters while geordie just look like bad actors trying to make a jerseyshore-like show and their actions dont have any logic behind them nor their emotions match the situations they find themselves in

this show is fake imo, look at all their teeth

im quite sure all the shore shows r fake but jersey shore is waaay too obvious like who the fuck goes to search for his niece

On May 28 2011 18:22 Loco wrote: i agree with frinkx... this is really epic. some real mind-expanding stuff... i got so much out of this. one girl showed her big breasts, guys went to the gym and talked about their tans, they drank alcohol, went clubbing, kissed a bunch of girls. and there even was a fight between two guys. oh man, i am so entertained right now... amazing omg i love my life. i like money too. and drinking. and sex. and money. (forget the montage in the video, i just couldn't find that part of the movie elsewhere... or maybe not.)

yo grats on having a different sense of humor than most people. it obviously makes u smarter and better

dont shit on our parade just because ur some prat who isnt as easily amused.

and u prolly dont like it cuz u dont go out cuz ur a minger

Loco there is nothing more pathetic than the people who sit on a high horse because they've achieved a high level of awareness about a bunch of important issues without ever actually having taken a single action that affects those issues. Awareness without action is worthless. If not in a position to take action on the issues then having the knowledge is worthless.

British slang is the pinnacle of all forms of language.

"dis is meh daadd...."

This show wins the interwebz.

On May 28 2011 13:21 chris wrote: i hope everyone of them gets herpes

Can't get it twice

I fuckin hate these guys' gay shirts...

...and the whole show

went through the whole s3 of Jersey Shore in a day and a half... i feel a little bit dumber and heavily addicted to this show fml

not on the mtv site, just found these links havent checked them out yet

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On May 29 2011 15:52 Bejamin1 wrote: Loco there is nothing more pathetic than the people who sit on a high horse because they've achieved a high level of awareness about a bunch of important issues without ever actually having taken a single action that affects those issues. Awareness without action is worthless. If not in a position to take action on the issues then having the knowledge is worthless.

nicely put

they have changed the format, the first episode was quality 45 minutes or so.
Now they have made 4 clips 4 minutes each, we miss all the relevant details like the conversations and so on.

On May 29 2011 15:12 FrinkX wrote: Show nested quote + On May 28 2011 18:22 Loco wrote: i agree with frinkx... this is really epic. some real mind-expanding stuff... i got so much out of this. one girl showed her big breasts, guys went to the gym and talked about their tans, they drank alcohol, went clubbing, kissed a bunch of girls. and there even was a fight between two guys. oh man, i am so entertained right now... amazing omg i love my life. i like money too. and drinking. and sex. and money. (forget the montage in the video, i just couldn't find that part of the movie elsewhere... or maybe not.) yo grats on having a different sense of humor than most people. it obviously makes u smarter and better dont shit on our parade just because ur some prat who isnt as easily amused. and u prolly dont like it cuz u dont go out cuz ur a minger

oh i'm easily amused. in fact, just seeing you worm-like people getting a kick out of watching other worm-like people pandering to their immediate selves & being oblivious to their blind-worm cycles is a great source of amusement to the smarter and better Almighty Me. *facepalm*

i'm free to speak my mind and i don't mind if the people who enjoy it hate me for it. that show is the worst thing i have ever seen. and it's not harmless, that's why i bother posting about it.

solid personal attacks btw.

On May 29 2011 15:52 Bejamin1 wrote: Loco there is nothing more pathetic than the people who sit on a high horse because they've achieved a high level of awareness about a bunch of important issues without ever actually having taken a single action that affects those issues. Awareness without action is worthless. If not in a position to take action on the issues then having the knowledge is worthless.

if that to you is the climax of all that is pathetic then i don't know what to say.

and if you admit that i have achieved such a level of awareness, how the hell would you know that i haven't taken action on any of it? just seems like a preposterous assumption from you. if i haven't changed the world it means that i haven't done anything - is that it?

however i'd want to pass the message it would look high horsey because it's so counter-culture to be against such mind-numbing entertainment. so i decided that i might as well make it humorous, simply because i don't want to be all preachy and say "don't watch these shows folks, it's not good for ya!".

and you're being way too vague about the worthlessness of things. is not awareness leading to the not-doing of something a form of doing something? who is it worthless for? is not my awareness at least always serving me? i.e. i don't watch these shows so i can read good books instead - am i not winning something here?

u mad?

oh and frinkx here's some good humor for ya:

btw, does this show air in the U.S.? I hate watching these juicy 4 min clips and not getting the whole entire picture. IMO I think Vicky and Jay are the most likeable potential couple possible out of them. Greg seems the person most into himself by far. Oh and I'd wear those shirts if I wasn't so fat right now (17% bodyfat). Nothing wrong with showing what you got, but it is annoying to see Greg actually lift up his shirt all the time.

On June 01 2011 13:06 Loco wrote: oh and frinkx here's some good humor for ya:

its really hard to take you seriously when you're obviously also the guy who sulks in the corner when he goes out as well. you have no idea what you're missing

worm-like people. lol to even compare me to these clowns on geordie shore. i'm fucking laughing at them, but i guess i can appreciate their antics because i actually do go out and socialize and have wild nights sometimes. the main attraction is their accents and slang anyways.

and it is completely harmless

2nd episode was awesome

just search Geordie.Shore.s01e01 e02 etc. in google and u'll find download links

On June 01 2011 13:26 FrinkX wrote: Show nested quote + On June 01 2011 13:06 Loco wrote: oh and frinkx here's some good humor for ya: its really hard to take you seriously when you're obviously also the guy who sulks in the corner when he goes out as well. you have no idea what you're missing worm-like people. lol to even compare me to these clowns on geordie shore. i'm fucking laughing at them, but i guess i can appreciate their antics because i actually do go out and socialize and have wild nights sometimes. the main attraction is their accents and slang anyways. and it is completely harmless

i'm not comparing you to them, but i can understand the appeal considering the lifestyle you lead. the worm-like thing is a joke because you made it sound as if it was all about me being self-righteous and trying to make you look like idiots for enjoying it and nothing more. yes i poke fun at you but there is an obvious motive to my post. the thing is, whether you are stupid or intelligent makes very little difference if you are unaware of the role that the electric media plays in a culture and its effect on an individual. my argument is not that everyone who watches this stuff is an idiot, it is that it will eventually turn people into idiots because they will enjoy it so much; there won't be space for cultivating the mind anymore because entertainment will always be available and it's the thing we are naturally directed to: immediate gratification.

and trust me on one thing: it's not harmless. the very fact that everyone thinks it is harmless is what makes it go unnoticed and such a disaster. from the narrow, careless perspective in one's life it's just a petty harmless thing, but once examined properly--with full attention--you can see both its detrimental cultural and individual effects clearly.

i don't want to keep derailing your thread as i've passed my message already, so i'll let people who are curious look into it themselves. i would start here.

read this: http://synthaissance.blogspot.com/2008/08/huxleyan-warning-neil-postman.html

or if you prefer a video version of what's written there:
+ Show Spoiler +

also good watch (start it at 2:55):


this is vitally important stuff.

i did understand what you were saying i guess i just dont believe it because i dont believe a tv show can have any effect on me. i go out a lot sure but i dont conduct myself in this manner. but i guess for most people it can warp them... meh

harmless fun for me

you're not seeing the bigger picture here. it's not so much the content that has a negative effect; it's the medium through which we receive the content.

the best example i can give you of that is our attention spans. how many people can focus on large texts easily nowadays? the attention span of people pre-electric mediums of communication were very much higher than ours, and there is a lot of evidence for that. it is rewiring the brain, and doing many things that go unnoticed. the content isn't responsible for that.

Loco please don't make this thread about how intellectually superior you are to the rest of us. And people not reading your enormous posts has nothing to do with attention spans. Srsly, after making 17248 posts you still think this place is where virgins come to discuss Schiller?

geordie shore isn't just mindless entertainment. it's like a trip to the zoo. not only is it a lot of fun but you learn a ton of stuff along the way too. i guess i could hop on an airplane and go to sunderland but that sounds like a terrible vacation and i'd much rather go somewhere else and just watch from a distance. i've never met someone that had the time/money/energy to never have at least 40 min of downtime once a week.

as for bill hicks, so a complete misanthrope goes to a night club alone and has a bad experience? no way you gotta be fucken shittin me?

i mean you don't even need his outstanding commentary. it's hilarious just picturing it. it's also hilarious trying to picture the cast of the geordie shore reading kant and having a philosophic discussion. i don't really know where i'm going w/ this and i have to go so i'm just gonna diarhea some thoughts.

-if bill hicks looked like brad pitt and danced like usher i have a feeling he would have a different take on nightclubs and dancing.
-socializing and meeting new ppl can broaden horizons. it can be way more enlightening and fun than reading ernest hemingway's 15th short story

where can i get the episodes from

these kids on geordie shore seem happy enough so kudos to them since thats what its about. and the people who like the show mostly just relate to what they are doing and its funny because of the extremity

On June 01 2011 14:56 pluzich wrote: Loco please don't make this thread about how intellectually superior you are to the rest of us. And people not reading your enormous posts has nothing to do with attention spans. Srsly, after making 17248 posts you still think this place is where virgins come to discuss Schiller?

Is it because you can't make an argument that you have to resolve to personal insults and twisting what I say to fit those?

Please, do tell me why people come here. You seem to be a knowledgeable fellow. Are you saying that people don't come here to learn about anything relevant to their lives, or to cultivate themselves in any way? I think people do. Maybe not everyone, but that's no justification for not trying to get some serious discussions going on from time to time.

And I don't know why you thought it relevant to mention my post count, but that's exactly why I bother still; you haven't actively been a part of this community for as long as I have. It would be, from my perspective, much more insulting to the intelligence of people if I chose to not post anything serious at all (or make some jabs and throw insults without ever elaborating) because I'd assume people aren't smart enough to comprehend it. If I try to get people to think and argue it first and foremost means I believe there are intellectually capable people here that can engage in meaningful discussions amidst the irrelevances. I don't see you doing that though, maybe you keep those discussions for your private club but I don't have one!

Loco please don't make this thread about how intellectually superior you are to the rest of us. And people not reading your enormous posts has nothing to do with attention spans. Srsly, after making 17249 posts you still think this place is where virgins come to discuss Schiller?

On June 01 2011 15:03 RiKD wrote: geordie shore isn't just mindless entertainment. it's like a trip to the zoo. not only is it a lot of fun but you learn a ton of stuff along the way too. i guess i could hop on an airplane and go to sunderland but that sounds like a terrible vacation and i'd much rather go somewhere else and just watch from a distance. i've never met someone that had the time/money/energy to never have at least 40 min of downtime once a week. as for bill hicks, so a complete misanthrope goes to a night club alone and has a bad experience? no way you gotta be fucken shittin me? i mean you don't even need his outstanding commentary. it's hilarious just picturing it. it's also hilarious trying to picture the cast of the geordie shore reading kant and having a philosophic discussion. i don't really know where i'm going w/ this and i have to go so i'm just gonna diarhea some thoughts.

So the show has educative value! Can you give me a few examples of how the things you might learn from it serve you in life?

Also, call Hicks a misanthrope as much as you want, I think whatever set of skills he has developped and cultivated (because these things are not a given, which you make it sound like they are) had a lot more humanitarian value than Usher's dance moves, but that's just me.

hilarious...

Loco, if you actually wanted to discuss "the role that the electric media plays in a culture and its effect on an individual" you wouldn't have entered this thread, in your mocking tone, looking down on anybody who could possibly enjoy the show as entertainment... you would have actually raised your points/questions in an appropriate manner... you are smart enough to know that your original post in this thread would mainly lead to flaming, not productive discussion, and yet that is the path you chose

This was really nothing more than you trying to make yourself superior to the rest of us "worms" no matter how you now try to spin it

On June 01 2011 16:25 CirCa wrote: hilarious... Loco, if you actually wanted to discuss "the role that the electric media plays in a culture and its effect on an individual" you wouldn't have entered this thread, in your mocking tone, looking down on anybody who could possibly enjoy the show as entertainment... you would have actually raised your points/questions in an appropriate manner... you are smart enough to know that your original post in this thread would mainly lead to flaming, not productive discussion, and yet that is the path you chose This was really nothing more than you trying to make yourself superior to the rest of us "worms" no matter how you now try to spin it

This is only partly true. Of course I knew the reactions I would get. I considered both options before making the post, and I chose to make the post because I first of all enjoy 'beating up' on easy self-indulgence (my own even more than others, and because I think these types of shows are the epitome of it) and second of all because it was the easy route to get people's attention. I'm thinking my post would've been largely ignored if I had only raised some questions, and I wasn't sure which ones to raise or how to, considering I didn't have any context for it. It's easier to get people's attention when they take it personally, and it creates a context. And yes, perhaps I do want people to take it personally, but I really don't think it has much to do with my own gratification and feelings of superiority like you wish to believe. People can try to psychoanalyze me if they want and find the ulterior motive in what I did, but I'm aware enough to know that I was maybe going to get into this and that the information provided might be good starting points for some people who have begun to think about this and maybe question that the mindless entertainment in their lives might be interfering with healthy behavior.

And if by 'feeling superior' we mean that I believe that my values are at a better and higher place, and my habits wiser, then yes, I absolutely feel superior to most people who are just goofing around, stuck in an unconscious cycle of easy gratification day after day. Why wouldn't I? Does it make me a terrible person because I believe--from observing people's habits--that I generally make wiser choices than them?

I think if there was a major mistake in what I did it is that after I watched it out of curiosity I decided to post in here to express my dislike of the show and at the same time expressed my concerns humorously and contemptuously. I'm thinking separating both, and having made a new thread for my concerns would've been a wiser choice and would've led to better opportunities for discussion. I haven't made a thread in forever so it didn't cross my mind.

ill update my original topic with download links

episode 2 stream


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On June 01 2011 17:26 FrinkX wrote: ill update my original topic with download links

...amidst the irrelevances.

dissing hicks wtf? Hicks is a fucking genius and a great human being and if you dont share that misanthropy to some point you are clearly not paying attention -.-


What i dont get is why you like this shows, if it was an ABSOLUTE freak show i would get it, like seeing a freak in a circus just out of morbidity but quite freankly what ive seen its quite normal its not mind blowing or anything, they just act like that documentary on ADZ or Andrew Robl or sounds like an avg night with a douche with sunglasses and popped collar, whats to see? a couple of fights?

On June 01 2011 16:46 Loco wrote: Show nested quote + On June 01 2011 16:25 CirCa wrote: hilarious... Loco, if you actually wanted to discuss "the role that the electric media plays in a culture and its effect on an individual" you wouldn't have entered this thread, in your mocking tone, looking down on anybody who could possibly enjoy the show as entertainment... you would have actually raised your points/questions in an appropriate manner... you are smart enough to know that your original post in this thread would mainly lead to flaming, not productive discussion, and yet that is the path you chose This was really nothing more than you trying to make yourself superior to the rest of us "worms" no matter how you now try to spin it This is only partly true. Of course I knew the reactions I would get. I considered both options before making the post, and I chose to make the post because I first of all enjoy 'beating up' on easy self-indulgence (my own even more than others, and because I think these types of shows are the epitome of it) and second of all because it was the easy route to get people's attention. I'm thinking my post would've been largely ignored if I had only raised some questions, and I wasn't sure which ones to raise or how to, considering I didn't have any context for it. It's easier to get people's attention when they take it personally, and it creates a context. And yes, perhaps I do want people to take it personally, but I really don't think it has much to do with my own gratification and feelings of superiority like you wish to believe. People can try to psychoanalyze me if they want and find the ulterior motive in what I did, but I'm aware enough to know that I was maybe going to get into this and that the information provided might be good starting points for some people who have begun to think about this and maybe question that the mindless entertainment in their lives might be interfering with healthy behavior. And if by 'feeling superior' we mean that I believe that my values are at a better and higher place, and my habits wiser, then yes, I absolutely feel superior to most people who are just goofing around, stuck in an unconscious cycle of easy gratification day after day. Why wouldn't I? Does it make me a terrible person because I believe--from observing people's habits--that I generally make wiser choices than them? I think if there was a major mistake in what I did it is that after I watched it out of curiosity I decided to post in here to express my dislike of the show and at the same time expressed my concerns humorously and contemptuously. I'm thinking separating both, and having made a new thread for my concerns would've been a wiser choice and would've led to better opportunities for discussion. I haven't made a thread in forever so it didn't cross my mind.

what makes your habits and choices wiser than the people in this show? just from watching 1 episode the people in this show seem to have a lot of fun and im sure memories of being in this tv show will be good memories to remember for the rest of their life even with all the drama. So yeah the people in this show have a lot of fun so i think they are making pretty good decisions to be in it.
Maybe you don't have the artistic intelligence to enjoy the humor of getting a bunch of people like this together to live in a house.

"Im in there like swimwear"

Also Rikd doesnt seem to understand Bill Hicks at all

Since when did Loco become a bigger troll than Baal? xD




Who gives a fuck what people like?

On June 01 2011 20:25 Stroggoz wrote: Show nested quote + On June 01 2011 16:46 Loco wrote:   On June 01 2011 16:25 CirCa wrote: hilarious... Loco, if you actually wanted to discuss "the role that the electric media plays in a culture and its effect on an individual" you wouldn't have entered this thread, in your mocking tone, looking down on anybody who could possibly enjoy the show as entertainment... you would have actually raised your points/questions in an appropriate manner... you are smart enough to know that your original post in this thread would mainly lead to flaming, not productive discussion, and yet that is the path you chose This was really nothing more than you trying to make yourself superior to the rest of us "worms" no matter how you now try to spin it This is only partly true. Of course I knew the reactions I would get. I considered both options before making the post, and I chose to make the post because I first of all enjoy 'beating up' on easy self-indulgence (my own even more than others, and because I think these types of shows are the epitome of it) and second of all because it was the easy route to get people's attention. I'm thinking my post would've been largely ignored if I had only raised some questions, and I wasn't sure which ones to raise or how to, considering I didn't have any context for it. It's easier to get people's attention when they take it personally, and it creates a context. And yes, perhaps I do want people to take it personally, but I really don't think it has much to do with my own gratification and feelings of superiority like you wish to believe. People can try to psychoanalyze me if they want and find the ulterior motive in what I did, but I'm aware enough to know that I was maybe going to get into this and that the information provided might be good starting points for some people who have begun to think about this and maybe question that the mindless entertainment in their lives might be interfering with healthy behavior. And if by 'feeling superior' we mean that I believe that my values are at a better and higher place, and my habits wiser, then yes, I absolutely feel superior to most people who are just goofing around, stuck in an unconscious cycle of easy gratification day after day. Why wouldn't I? Does it make me a terrible person because I believe--from observing people's habits--that I generally make wiser choices than them? I think if there was a major mistake in what I did it is that after I watched it out of curiosity I decided to post in here to express my dislike of the show and at the same time expressed my concerns humorously and contemptuously. I'm thinking separating both, and having made a new thread for my concerns would've been a wiser choice and would've led to better opportunities for discussion. I haven't made a thread in forever so it didn't cross my mind. what makes your habits and choices wiser than the people in this show? just from watching 1 episode the people in this show seem to have a lot of fun and im sure memories of being in this tv show will be good memories to remember for the rest of their life even with all the drama. So yeah the people in this show have a lot of fun so i think they are making pretty good decisions to be in it. Maybe you don't have the artistic intelligence to enjoy the humor of getting a bunch of people like this together to live in a house.

If you think this show requires anything from the viewer (and especially any kind of intelligence) you are completely deluded. It doesn't require anything. Not only that, but it also manages to copy another show completely. But I really don't give a shit about arguing the quality of the show, I just dislike it and that's that.

I wasn't aware that we gauge good decisions in life by the sole factor of how much fun was had. Since you ask me, I'll just say that I am just under the impression that there are greater joys in life than getting shitfaced drunk, making up with girls, working out and talking about your tan day in day out. Maybe I'm wrong.

On June 01 2011 20:41 Svenman87 wrote: Since when did Loco become a bigger troll than Baal? xD Who gives a fuck what people like?

I rarely troll people and I doubt Baal does often. I did some Übermensch trolling with the worm thing though, but that's all.

Who gives a fuck what people like, exactly. What actually concerns me is what these shows, and more largely, the medium does to people. I know what it did to me, and I've observed how mostly everyone is an entertainment junky nowadays and it's very concerning.

I m kinda on Loco's side here. No smart man would have respect for a 26yo who only has gym and haircuts on his mind / how to get shitfaced and hook up with a random 3+ girl. I tolerate this kind of behaviour for like 16-20yo but beyond that is just pure retarded imo ( obv dont get the timelane literally ). Also thinking about ur tan when you should be thinking about your career and how could your life be more constructive and bringing more stability to your loved ones is just pure idiotism and those are just some of the things that r way more imporant that trivial bullshit. But then again who am i to judge them, Hue Hefner is older than Jesus himself and he s banging shitloads of coke and having threesomes with 18yos, if thats the lifestyle they wanna have let em be, but then again Hue Hefner doesnt get his money out of his mom and dads pocket so..

I also feel like the extremity I've seen around Europe and especially here at home in sitiuations like the ones shown in the show are beyond the limits this show will ever reach and im sure people living in Europe could relate to that. Show is still pretty amusing tho mainly coz its filled with dumb people taking dumb choices all the time - thats one of the most amusing stuff anyone could watch and cmon dont tell me im being arrogant or something im quite sure most of you think that way

P.S. One thing i do not understand about western culture is how are the clubs already crowded and have a 50 people lane at 10pm .. who goes to the club that early .. i mean if you go to the club before 12 here you will literally be the only ones in there with the staff

On June 01 2011 20:25 Stroggoz wrote: what makes your habits and choices wiser than the people in this show? just from watching 1 episode the people in this show seem to have a lot of fun and im sure memories of being in this tv show will be good memories to remember for the rest of their life even with all the drama. So yeah the people in this show have a lot of fun so i think they are making pretty good decisions to be in it. Maybe you don't have the artistic intelligence to enjoy the humor of getting a bunch of people like this together to live in a house.

You really have no clue whatsoever about anything in life, wow.

Let this show be, who these people truly are off the camera we don't really know. If you enjoy watching this show it doesn't mean you want to be fkn like them. If some people try to act like these people in real life because they think they're cool, fk them because they got poor judgement anyways. There are people in life that you can have fun and party with while having healthy, deep, and sincere relationships with and there are people in life you can party and have fun with but aren't actually respectable in your own eyes. You do not need to respect everyone in this world since respect is earned, you especially don't need to respect everybody you watch in your god damn tv shows, let alone bitch about it because they're taking advantage of an opportunity that will make them famous.

There are bad television shows everywhere obviously but guess what, there's s fkn billion different channels, websites with shows to choose from. Just as there "bad" music in this world, well then get off ur ass, stop listening to whatever radio stations and actually search for what you like because there's like a million ways to obtain and listen to whatever music you would like.

god ppl, stop wasting your energy arguing about how bad this show is/isn't or if the show has anything of value, fuuuuk lol.

Yeah, I guess you're right. There's no way to know for certain that Jay isn't reading Nietzsche when there's no camera to film his every move.

The show is fake and stupid but still entertaining, just like with what pro wrestling was before, only thing is they peddle now is a life of promiscuity and never ending parties with strangers in one house, before with the "Real world" and "Big Brother" it used to be made up to be some social experiment but now people are tired of the genre/drama and just wanna see people have fun and get laid. It makes people feel they can get laid anytime which is for many, hardly ever the case. Honestly think Jersey Shore was like 10x better and funnier too since the "guido" stereotype is not very known to most people outside the area which made it very interesting and hilarious, these geordies have yet to show something that relates to the area though, but I fail to see it.

i wasn't dissing hicks. i haven't seen any of his standup in a long time but i also think he's a genius and one of the best of all time. any bit he's done on drugs, rock n roll, or religion are some of my favorites of all time. hating on night clubs and men dancing i don't agree w/ him though. night clubs can be an excellent time. after some drinks w/ the right crowd in the right mood i'm picking night club over sitting at home and reading homer 10 times out of 10 and it's not close.

as far as men dancing if they are confident and have some rhythm and are dancing or attempting to dance w/ a woman or even just goofing around how is that not masculine? if they are awkward and uncomfortable clearly sitting and sweating and cursing is the better option. if they're seriously and euphorically doing choreographed dance routines to lady gaga or mika then yeah they are probably gay.

getting back to loco i actually agree w/ his main theme just not the way he went about expressing it. unless you literally never watch make believe movies, play video games, masturbate, etc. it's just obnoxious to attack ppl.

i can totally jive w/ disliking aspects of humanity/society but i dislike angry misanthropy.

I think what happens with people like Loco is that they lose sight of how there is no basis whatsoever for their values to be applied to other people. Funnily enough most of the time the personal values which they apply to other people lets them feel superior...

I suppose a poker analogy would be Loco deciding his values for poker are to make the best possible decision possible to maximise his expected value and profit. He sits at a table and watches a fish gamble it up by calling on a flush draw and hoping to suck out on and stack one of the regs. Loco would then apply his poker values to this player and think omg what a stupid fish, how can they ever expect to improve and get MAX EXPECTED VALUE???!!

The thing is, there is no logical reason at all that the other player has to have the same poker values as Loco. Now, if the other player has the same values as Loco (max profit) then within that "system" you could compare approaches by both players and say that Loco is logically superior. But if they don't have the same values then how can you compare their actions?

I believe this goes up all the way in terms of values to the highest level where there are no absolute values that you can use to then derive values and compare value systems.

I don't think there is any ultimate basis one can use to logically say that a life spent trying to have as much sex as possible with the most attractive girls (to that person) is ultimately any better or worse then a life spent advancing humanity like Einstein or Edison. If there were two people that had those different values then they would have to agree on values on a level above that to then compare their values.

Like in this thread, if we all agree that we have the higher values of gaining more knowledge then we can compare the values of the actors+audience for Geordie Show and Loco's values against that and Loco would come out ahead. No reason to tho imo.

I don't believe such a ultimate measuring stick for values exists (even with gods you have the Euthyphro Dilemma) and that it comes down to personal values.

Neways, just rambling while waiting for the episode to finish dling. Time to enjoy...

whats the name of that show with the guy kicking himself in the balls/

On June 02 2011 01:22 RiKD wrote: i wasn't dissing hicks. i haven't seen any of his standup in a long time but i also think he's a genius and one of the best of all time. any bit he's done on drugs, rock n roll, or religion are some of my favorites of all time. hating on night clubs and men dancing i don't agree w/ him though. night clubs can be an excellent time. after some drinks w/ the right crowd in the right mood i'm picking night club over sitting at home and reading homer 10 times out of 10 and it's not close. as far as men dancing if they are confident and have some rhythm and are dancing or attempting to dance w/ a woman or even just goofing around how is that not masculine? if they are awkward and uncomfortable clearly sitting and sweating and cursing is the better option. if they're seriously and euphorically doing choreographed dance routines to lady gaga or mika then yeah they are probably gay. getting back to loco i actually agree w/ his main theme just not the way he went about expressing it. unless you literally never watch make believe movies, play video games, masturbate, etc. it's just obnoxious to attack ppl. i can totally jive w/ disliking aspects of humanity/society but i dislike angry misanthropy.

I think you're onto something important, and I'm not condemning dancing like Bill. I'm definitely more of a sulking kind than a dancing kind. But if I could do it, I definitely believe it would do me good. In my favorite book (Steppenwolf) the protagonist has a transcendental experience from dancing in a crowd and it gives him a new joy for living. I think any activity that can make your ego disappear for some time or you "losing yourself" has a lot of value. Books are fantastic but they are not the whole of life and experiences.

I literally never watch make-believe movies and play video games these days, but it doesn't change anything about the fact that it wasn't the optimal way to get into this. I guess there is some resentment in me towards the entertainment junkies because I feel like I was born in a culture that doesn't resemble anything that I would want it to be. I also feel like said culture has done me a lot of harm and undoing it is no easy task (like for the attention span) and it keeps doing harm because in a world where our practices are unsustainable people are uninformed and no longer have their self-interest nor the interest of the people at heart. They don't do jack shit. The new opium is their entertainment and no longer religious fundamentalism. From my perspective there is no need for an oppressor for people to be enslaved; as long as they have easy access to entertainment and don't question it, they'll do it themselves.

On June 02 2011 02:55 R_I wrote: I think what happens with people like Loco is that they lose sight of how there is no basis whatsoever for their values to be applied to other people. Funnily enough most of the time the personal values which they apply to other people lets them feel superior... I suppose a poker analogy would be Loco deciding his values for poker are to make the best possible decision possible to maximise his expected value and profit. He sits at a table and watches a fish gamble it up by calling on a flush draw and hoping to suck out on and stack one of the regs. Loco would then apply his poker values to this player and think omg what a stupid fish, how can they ever expect to improve and get MAX EXPECTED VALUE???!! The thing is, there is no logical reason at all that the other player has to have the same poker values as Loco. Now, if the other player has the same values as Loco (max profit) then within that "system" you could compare approaches by both players and say that Loco is logically superior. But if they don't have the same values then how can you compare their actions? I believe this goes up all the way in terms of values to the highest level where there are no absolute values that you can use to then derive values and compare value systems. I don't think there is any ultimate basis one can use to logically say that a life spent trying to have as much sex as possible with the most attractive girls (to that person) is ultimately any better or worse then a life spent advancing humanity like Einstein or Edison. If there were two people that had those different values then they would have to agree on values on a level above that to then compare their values. Like in this thread, if we all agree that we have the higher values of gaining more knowledge then we can compare the values of the actors+audience for Geordie Show and Loco's values against that and Loco would come out ahead. No reason to tho imo. I don't believe such a ultimate measuring stick for values exists (even with gods you have the Euthyphro Dilemma) and that it comes down to personal values. Neways, just rambling while waiting for the episode to finish dling. Time to enjoy...

Interesting analogy, but I think you're missing something here. We were all a fish at some point. I don't think anybody ever managed to avoid sitting at a table as a fish at some point in their lives. But if you have become a successful poker player, you've learned a lot of things down the road, and you profit more than the fish who didn't dedicate themselves to improving. I think we are all transformable for the better, and the only thing stopping us is our ignorance, self-indulgence and lack of courage. I think life is the same as poker in that respect: you are either improving, staying the same or regressing. I would argue that only one of those feels good, and I'm guessing the people who aim for comfort and being well-entertained would not agree. Living life in itself is an art to learn. How do we get the most joy, the least disappoints, and the best relationships? How do we flourish as human beings? I for one don't think the Geordie Shore cast have found the answer to any of such questions. I think they are more interested in the moment to moment pleasures than in a responsible, flourishing life.

"I don't think there is any ultimate basis one can use to logically say that a life spent trying to have as much sex as possible with the most attractive girls (to that person) is ultimately any better or worse then a life spent advancing humanity like Einstein or Edison."

If that is so, then please do this exercise: imagine a world where there only are people who want to have as much sex as possible. No scientists, no artists, no thinkers, nothing else than those vulgar hedonists. People don't know how to read anymore because you don't need that to have sex. They also don't know how to take care of humanity's problems, nor do they care, because it doesn't matter. They are here right now and they can still live on this planet without any problems, only the future generations will have to deal with them.

Now imagine the opposite. Only thinkers, scientists, artists, etc left. Which model do you think would be the best? Which one would you rather live in? Which one would most likely make it out alive and not disappear into oblivion at some point? Which one would create the best qualities for living?

I think the values being purely subjective/arbitrary thing is a bullshit argument. Our values affect more than just us, therefore it should be measurable whether one is superior to another.

just to clear it up tv doesnt deter me from reading walls of texts

its just that i dont give a shit what u people have to say. stop fucking nuking this thread and talk about the awesomeness that is the geordie shore

someone needs to make a geordie shore soundboard.

I never argued that people can't read "walls of text" on a forum. That's nothing. Can they sit quietly and pick up a book and have some real, uninterrupted focused study after having been on the computer or watching tv for hours? I highly doubt it, and that's the argument.



But more importantly, is there any reason why people would want to study anything when they can just take it easy and be entertained whenever? This is the biggest concern. The problem is not spending some time watching mindless entertainment. The problem is when it takes all the space and there is none left for study and self-cultivation.

And I'm sorry if I turned your thread into this.

fuck shut up

the chick with double F's on the geordie shore is more interesting to listen to

obviously Hicks isnt shitting on the act of dancing nor socializing, he is shitting on the club-scene, which is full of shallow and pathetic people.

He isnt against party, getting wasted, he has done his share of booze and drugs, its the place (and therefore people) that is shit, you know, when the place has a big bouncer and a chain, the place is full of idiots with ugly shirts unbuttoned far too low, shallow gold diggers with a lot of make up dancing to shitty hip-hop... that is the scene he and us, find pathetic.

On June 02 2011 19:37 FrinkX wrote: fuck shut up the chick with double F's on the geordie shore is more interesting to listen to

i dont understand how could someone not find geordie shore hilarious. its fkin A M A Z I N G !!

is it just me or are these girls butt ugly without makeup....and then poof: perfect 10 charlotte

yep they are except vicky who still looks like a female w/o make up

the 2 snookis are so ugly wtf

whores look like whores.

On June 02 2011 14:52 Loco wrote: Can they sit quietly and pick up a book and have some real, uninterrupted focused study after having been on the computer or watching tv for hours? I highly doubt it, and that's the argument. But more importantly, is there any reason why people would want to study anything when they can just take it easy and be entertained whenever? This is the biggest concern. The problem is not spending some time watching mindless entertainment. The problem is when it takes all the space and there is none left for study and self-cultivation.

You do realise that there are quite a few students on here in college/university etc or have already completed those qualifications? Last time I checked there is usually a large time commitment for those sorts of endeavours. There are also quite a few people on here who read books (what?). I know it's awesome to think that you are the last human on earth who still has an attention span over 13 seconds but that fact is you're not special. Most people here (probably all) are watching this for a laugh and have ZERO respect for these douches. It makes no sense what so ever to bring up your argument over this thread of all threads. If people where in here saying shit like "I want to be just like Jay when I grow up" then maybe dish out some of that high ground dribble you like but otherwise it's totally irrelevant. I'd probably join in.

This sounds appropriate "People just have this annoying habit of trying to 'correct' everyone's beliefs when they don't share them, often with complete lack of respect for the other person. It starts and ends with vanity with nothing to redeem it in-between."

BTW spent 10am - 3pm and then 9pm - 2am "sitting quietly" with a book for "uninterrupted focused study". You wet?

If you reply try to keep it under 500 words and no youtube bollocks please. I have books to read.

the topic you r discussing is so relative you cant just narrow it down to few simple arguments and that counts for both sides

Loco is right that the internetz and TV make emotional stimulation to easily accessible. I remember I had the most free time and was doing the most running, gym etc. when I was without a computer completely for 3 months. The reading a book thing and 'self cultivation' is being a douchebag with the need for self-affirmation though yourself Loco, because one way is right for you doesn't mean it's right for others.
Just because I find it fulfilling to study a wide range of subjects doesn't mean at all that I will look down upon someone who works on his body and sees it as the most important thing, someone who wants to pull birds, or someone who just wants to be happy in his life, and be passively entertained. Who are you to judge what's good and what's not, life purpose depends on each individual and his personal needs, values and desires.

On June 03 2011 14:03 Funktion wrote: Show nested quote + On June 02 2011 14:52 Loco wrote: Can they sit quietly and pick up a book and have some real, uninterrupted focused study after having been on the computer or watching tv for hours? I highly doubt it, and that's the argument. But more importantly, is there any reason why people would want to study anything when they can just take it easy and be entertained whenever? This is the biggest concern. The problem is not spending some time watching mindless entertainment. The problem is when it takes all the space and there is none left for study and self-cultivation. You do realise that there are quite a few students on here in college/university etc or have already completed those qualifications? Last time I checked there is usually a large time commitment for those sorts of endeavours. There are also quite a few people on here who read books (what?). I know it's awesome to think that you are the last human on earth who still has an attention span over 13 seconds but that fact is you're not special. Most people here (probably all) are watching this for a laugh and have ZERO respect for these douches. It makes no sense what so ever to bring up your argument over this thread of all threads. If people where in here saying shit like "I want to be just like Jay when I grow up" then maybe dish out some of that high ground dribble you like but otherwise it's totally irrelevant. I'd probably join in. This sounds appropriate "People just have this annoying habit of trying to 'correct' everyone's beliefs when they don't share them, often with complete lack of respect for the other person. It starts and ends with vanity with nothing to redeem it in-between." BTW spent 10am - 3pm and then 9pm - 2am "sitting quietly" with a book for "uninterrupted focused study". You wet? If you reply try to keep it under 500 words and no youtube bollocks please. I have books to read.

You should read my posts before replying to me. I made it very obvious that I am like everybody else and the computer has done harm to my attention span. I don't have a good one and as a result I have to put a lot of effort into reading.

And I guess we're just in different circles, because I don't know many people who read seriously and especially not outside of required readings for school. And they all struggle with reading. Congratulations if you don't, you seem to be the one who thinks he's special with that post.

I do know of a ton of people who are ailed and they don't know why and have not learned to be responsible for themselves, and they all happen to fart around every day and enjoy maybe a little too much entertainment, and I'm not blaming them, I think it is largely the result of being brought up with access to such mediums.

On June 04 2011 04:05 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Who are you to judge what's good and what's not

Isn't that the task of a philosopher? Are all philosophers just unenlightened judgmental douchebags with a need for self-affirmation?

I'm a humanist and it's my job to make value judgments for the common good. You are deluded if you believe in bullshit subjectivity and not striving for the common good.

You sound like the woman at 8:45 of this video:

On June 04 2011 13:18 Loco wrote: Show nested quote + On June 04 2011 04:05 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Who are you to judge what's good and what's not Isn't that the task of a philosopher? Are all philosophers just unenlightened judgmental douchebags with a need for self-affirmation? I'm a humanist and it's my job to make value judgments for the common good.

Wow

On June 04 2011 13:18 Loco wrote: [QUOTE]On June 04 2011 04:05 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Who are you to judge what's good and what's not

I'm a humanist and it's my job to make value judgments for the common good. You are deluded if you believe in bullshit subjectivity and not striving for the common good.

ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.

I am dissapoint, I thought Loco was genuinely believing what he was saying but obvious troll is obvious.

And I am disappointed at the lack of thoughtful arguments in this thread. How unbelievably unimaginative and slothful some of you are. Tangential responses, mocking and personal attacks. Is that the best you can do, really? Play a game of hurt-feelings?

To those who will not engage me and merely attempt to ridicule me: what are you hiding behind? I would think that if I was truly being ridiculous and you guys could so easily see it from some vantage standpoint, it wouldn't take much effort to just lay it out here clearly for everybody to see. But that's not what you guys are doing. I don't think I am so stupid that I am beyond engaging, so please, either engage me on the ideas that I present and call me out on my bullshit clearly, or don't bother posting.

Should I have said that my philosophy is humanistic instead (on the model of ancient Greeks) and that I am coming from such a framework? I don't understand what the big deal is. Why is it so preposterous to call oneself a humanist (a believer in humanism)?

Can you define what 'common good' means from your perspective of humanist enlightened objective philosopher, who's job is to make value judgments?

See, it is hard to take you seriously when you call yourself that, most enlightened people I know are open minded and humble. I had several modules at university with great professors and amazing discussions on this subject, in particular on the purpose of business and sustainability and one and arguably the only specific thing everybody agreed on was that there are no answers set in stone and there are cultural, national and personal perspectives.

To be honest I still find it hard to believe you are not elaborately trolling.

Purpose of life is to get laid. This is one of the only truths out there. That's why this show rocks.

Blah blah humanist...blah blah ancient greeks...blah blah stfu. If you're not talking about pussy in this thread then gtfo.

Loco do you think you would act like u do if it was normal?

Regardless of what u do in this life it wont make the slightest bit of difference 1s after you are dead. Maybe u should just try to enjoy your life and maybe this is the best way that u can enjoy your life who knows??!! You aren't going to change human instinctive behavior by trolling a thread that doesn't deserve to be trolled. I mean, are u a better person if u read the script to this show rather than watch it? It's pretty obvious u watch youtube 8hours a day, what difference does it make what lies that you fill your head with whether it's youtube or some stupid show with british people.

If you have the right to call everyone in this thread stupid and throw random bs no one cares about around they have the same right to reciprocate, I mean u post a youtube video of some random guy no one has heard of and act like it's law. I can get my uncle teddy to record a youtube video saying random things with no ground to stand on too.

Who cares if our attention spans are smaller? You're comparing us to the people of the past and the world has changed dramatically. You cant prove for 1 second that by reading books and living like we did in the stone age eating raw food is the optimal way to live in a modern world. We're obese now, we have ADD? Who cares we also live 4x longer lives on average live with a much higher standard of life and undoubtedly are much more "enlightened" than anyone who lived even 30 years ago. Why do we all have to have the capability to read a book and have perfect health. We aren't getting more stupid or less healthy the only thing that has changed is "normal" and "normal" has been changing since the dawn of time.

On June 04 2011 14:40 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Can you define what 'common good' means from your perspective of humanist enlightened objective philosopher, who's job is to make value judgments?

First of all, I should clarify that I am not an objectivist, and I have absolutely no sympathies for such things as cartesian dualism and Ayn Rand's philosophy. But I do not believe in the subjectivity of good and evil. I do not believe in human values and human welfare as being arbitrary. I think you are an idiot if you believe that it is out of our capacity to judge whether removing the eyeballs of a child for religious reason is a good or an evil, or if you state that you can't be sure that rape is a good or bad thing. From my position, whatever promotes virtue of behavior and the harmonious advancement of the specie is a good. Virtue of behavior starts from an acceptance of duty (to do good) towards humanity, thus the humanism. Whatever promotes vice is of course an evil.

So, let's go back to the earlier context. You decided to haggle over the fact that I brought up self-cultivation as a virtue over the unconscious behaviors and distractions people are generally subjected to (which are of course vices). You said that because self-cultivation is right for me it doesn't make it so for other people (wrong, it's good for anybody to learn and cultivate themselves on relevant matters and become virtuous, and that is the common good). You equate shallow activities based on vanity like working on your body for it to look attractive and wearing nice clothes/getting a tan with such things as study and self-cultivation because ultimately it's all about the personal needs of the person and his desires, you say. But they're not equal; one works in accordance with nature and the betterment of humanity and the other does not: it is purely self-serving. You also don't believe that all human beings ultimately have the same needs and desires, which I believe is false. I believe we all have a need for relevancy, and we make choices based on that. We want attention: we want to be heard, seen, appreciated and so on. Only the way people go about fulfilling those is different. We are also all a community of the dying; we will all die at some point and what we leave behind to others is entirely up to us. If nobody believed in a common good we would have never abolished slavery and given the right to women to vote. There is a reason why we remember people like Martin Luther King, Gandhi and Einstein more than the people who dedicate their lives to getting drunk and laid as much as possible. One requires effort, discipline and a certain selflessness and the other is the default programming we all run on, which makes us go unconsciously about our day in order to gratify ourselves. Like I mentioned in an earlier post, humanity has a lot real problems to solve that we have created ourselves, and the people who are not doing their best to inform themselves and be a part of the solution are a part of the problem; and I also think if you are a part of the problem you will never be able to be truly happy, because you lack virtue, and if you lack virtue you live your life unconsciously grasping at every immediate pleasure you can and you will always end up feeling unsatiated because the body is subject to hedonic adaptation and no matter how much pleasure you might get you will always crave more. Therefore, the way to happiness is not to gratify our desires, but that is a different subject on which there is a lot to talk about.

Sartre on Existential Ethics:

3. Explain why existentialists believe that "in choosing myself, I choose man."
a. Through our choices, we determine or create what we will be. In those choices, we choose according to what we believe we ought to be. (Compare this view to the Socratic Paradox that we are unable to choose the bad.)

b. Consequently, we are creating ourselves according to what we think a person ought to be. This image is, then, what we think man ought to be. You are responsible for what you are and, as well, you are responsible for everyone since you choose for mankind.

c. You create an image of man as it ought to be, since we are unable to choose the worse. In a sense, in deciding, I'm putting a universal value to my act by deciding in accordance with the belief that all persons in this situation should act in this manner.

On June 04 2011 15:09 CrownRoyal wrote: Loco do you think you would act like u do if it was normal? Regardless of what u do in this life it wont make the slightest bit of difference 1s after you are dead.

You're right. Here's a list of people who didn't make a difference because they died: Charles Darwin, Karl Marx, Martin Luther King, Buddha, William Shakespear, Thomas Jefferson, Socrates, Gandhi, Aristotle, Mother Teresa, Voltaire, Louis Pasteur, Leo Tolstoy, Albert Einstein.

I guess these people should've just stayed home to jack off since they should've known they would make no difference whatsoever because they would die.

It seems like your existence would make no difference only because you are a selfish little clod of ailments. I'm not engaging the rest of your post because you only rant nonsense. This is how I feel:

boobies

On June 04 2011 16:01 MJD wrote: Show nested quote + On June 04 2011 13:37 SleepyHead wrote:   On June 04 2011 13:18 Loco wrote:   On June 04 2011 04:05 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Who are you to judge what's good and what's not Isn't that the task of a philosopher? Are all philosophers just unenlightened judgmental douchebags with a need for self-affirmation? I'm a humanist and it's my job to make value judgments for the common good. Wow Loco's lack of perspective is hilarious. You're not some paragon of virtue sent to save everyone from bad taste in TV and comedy, you play a card game for a living. The sooner you learn to not sit around and pat yourself on the back for being smarter than everyone else the better off you'll be.

What are you doing if not sitting around and patting yourself on the back right now? You're pretty much implying that I'm beyond engaging by saying that I lack perspective and then resolving to personal insult instead of mentioning why I lack perspective and how I should see things instead.

On June 04 2011 15:45 Loco wrote: Show nested quote + On June 04 2011 15:09 CrownRoyal wrote: Loco do you think you would act like u do if it was normal? Regardless of what u do in this life it wont make the slightest bit of difference 1s after you are dead. You're right. Here's a list of people who didn't make a difference because they died: Charles Darwin, Karl Marx, Martin Luther King, Buddha, William Shakespear, Thomas Jefferson, Socrates, Gandhi, Aristotle, Mother Teresa, Voltaire, Louis Pasteur, Leo Tolstoy, Albert Einstein. I guess these people should've just stayed home to jack off since they should've known they would make no difference whatsoever because they would die. It seems like your existence would make no difference only because you are a selfish little clod of ailments. I'm not engaging the rest of your post because you only rant nonsense. This is how I feel:

it's funny that u can compare yourself to those people who understood how the world works

On June 04 2011 16:30 CrownRoyal wrote: Show nested quote + On June 04 2011 15:45 Loco wrote:   On June 04 2011 15:09 CrownRoyal wrote: Loco do you think you would act like u do if it was normal? Regardless of what u do in this life it wont make the slightest bit of difference 1s after you are dead. You're right. Here's a list of people who didn't make a difference because they died: Charles Darwin, Karl Marx, Martin Luther King, Buddha, William Shakespear, Thomas Jefferson, Socrates, Gandhi, Aristotle, Mother Teresa, Voltaire, Louis Pasteur, Leo Tolstoy, Albert Einstein. I guess these people should've just stayed home to jack off since they should've known they would make no difference whatsoever because they would die. It seems like your existence would make no difference only because you are a selfish little clod of ailments. I'm not engaging the rest of your post because you only rant nonsense. This is how I feel: it's funny that u can compare yourself to those people who understood how the world works

It's funny that you can't engage actual ideas and have to cower behind the fact that neither you nor I nor anybody on this forum will ever be able to accomplish such great things and that you use that in order to justify following the herd. What is your obsession with normality? Are you that afraid of standing alone if you believe in a cause and others don't? It wasn't normal to be against slavery, yet it was the right thing to do, but you would have been one of the people supporting slavery since it was the norm. It's a good thing that many people don't think like you and try to change the things that are within their power, no matter how small.

And do you think they were simply born with the ability to understand the world, or that they actually worked hard in order to do so, by exploring and engaging ideas, which is the ultimate thing that I wish to do and promote?

On June 04 2011 16:35 MJD wrote: Show nested quote + On June 04 2011 16:10 Loco wrote:   On June 04 2011 16:01 MJD wrote:   On June 04 2011 13:37 SleepyHead wrote:   On June 04 2011 13:18 Loco wrote:   On June 04 2011 04:05 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Who are you to judge what's good and what's not Isn't that the task of a philosopher? Are all philosophers just unenlightened judgmental douchebags with a need for self-affirmation? I'm a humanist and it's my job to make value judgments for the common good. Wow Loco's lack of perspective is hilarious. You're not some paragon of virtue sent to save everyone from bad taste in TV and comedy, you play a card game for a living. The sooner you learn to not sit around and pat yourself on the back for being smarter than everyone else the better off you'll be. What are you doing if not sitting around and patting yourself on the back right now? You're pretty much implying that I'm beyond engaging by saying that I lack perspective and then resolving to personal insult instead of mentioning why I lack perspective and how I should see things instead. I don't really want to argue about something as inconsequential and subjective as entertainment or how it pertains to society as a whole. I'm pretty sure that since the dawn of man there has been trashy entertainment, and that's not going to change no matter how much Nietzsche you read and regurgitate. It's just fun to watch, simple as that. The comparison of shows like this and going to the zoo was right on.

The point was that it's childish to come in here and tell me that I lack something and not elaborate. If you don't want to discuss the ideas you gain nothing by just telling me that you think low of them and stopping there.

Now you're assuming that it's inconsequential -- why? What evidence do you hold that it has no impact on our culture currently? Is that your argument, that because since the dawn of time we have had entertainments we shouldn't study the effects of new media on society? That makes no sense at all. It's new media and so it has new consequences. To be aware of them is what's important. And I have never advocated a Luddite position of anti-technology either. I'm not foolish enough to believe in the possibility a world where people would forgo their sources of entertainments, that was never the point either.

Why was the comparison of going to the zoo right on? I really don't see it. I don't see how anything you can see in the show or learn could be relevant to you at some point in your life other than in order to answer a Geordie Shore trivia if someone was to come up with one. Then I guess you'd feel great about scoring high. I guess I see health benefits in going to the zoo and enjoying yourself, whereas I see none watching junk TV.

This should be the new ROFL thread.

4, 1, 2, 3.

You're right Loco. You're just so much better than everyone else and it's wrong that people entertain themselves. Those 17,269 posts of yours have surely contributed greatly to an intellectually superior society of super geniuses who will solve world hunger and create world peace. You probably waste more time arguing about nonsense with people that will never agree with you on LP than everyone in this thread combined has spent watching Geordie Shore. In fact by the logic of your own argument you should get off LP and cultivate your brain by doing something useful. Try not to let the proverbial internet door hit you in the ass on your way out.

Oh and I've got some news for you. We're several billion humans living on a tiny little blue green planet stuck in the middle of nowhere in the vastness of space. Nothing humans do matters or will ever matter. The world is not important to the Universe and neither is your role in it. If the choice is between obsessing over spending every moment productively cultivating the maximum possibilities for human achievement or actually enjoying my life I think I'd rather just enjoy my life.

On June 04 2011 18:21 Bejamin1 wrote: You're right Loco. You're just so much better than everyone else and it's wrong that people entertain themselves.

Please provide a quote of where I said that it was wrong to entertain oneself. Also provide one where I said that I never entertain myself. You just seem very angry and you cannot provide a rational argument for anything that I say apparently, since you avoided responding to my previous questions in reply to your initial post.

Those 17,269 posts of yours have surely contributed greatly to an intellectually superior society of super geniuses who will solve world hunger and create world peace. You probably waste more time arguing about nonsense with people that will never agree with you on LP than everyone in this thread combined has spent watching Geordie Shore. In fact by the logic of your own argument you should get off LP and cultivate your brain by doing something useful. Try not to let the proverbial internet door hit you in the ass on your way out.

Ad hominem attacks combined a classic case of perfectionism. Voltaire said that the best is the enemy of the good, meaning that we have a tendency to give up on working towards the good of something because we only focus on the best and how far it is. This is a clear lack of perspective that you suffer from.

Oh and I've got some news for you. We're several billion humans living on a tiny little blue green planet stuck in the middle of nowhere in the vastness of space. Nothing humans do matters or will ever matter. The world is not important to the Universe and neither is your role in it. If the choice is between obsessing over spending every moment productively cultivating the maximum possibilities for human achievement or actually enjoying my life I think I'd rather just enjoy my life

That's some pretty pathetic nihilism right there. Nothing matters, huh? Why don't you just kill yourself? You wouldn't think it's important if you saw someone drowning puppies and setting cats on fire because "the Universe doesn't think we're important according to me"? Why do you bother posting your opinion if nothing has any importance? Isn't it all ironic considering that it is important for you to enjoy your life?

loco is the most successful troll in LP

On June 04 2011 18:10 TheHuHu3 wrote: 4, 1, 2, 3.

???? 2 srsl?

On June 04 2011 21:46 dogmeat wrote: Show nested quote + On June 04 2011 18:10 TheHuHu3 wrote: 4, 1, 2, 3. ???? 2 srsl?

What?

dunno sophie is so fugly imo

I was just merely ranking the order in which I would want to fuck them. I haven't seen this show at all.

On June 04 2011 19:23 TheHuHu3 wrote:

he absolutely raped those arguments with no lube just to show you how stupid the rationalizations of liking this garbage are.

lol the nihilism approach is just idiotic.

On June 04 2011 18:10 TheHuHu3 wrote: 4, 1, 2, 3.

u must be trolling... your 1-2 have hideous faces.

Huh?

The ugliest bitch is the 3rd girl, which is why I would want to smash her last. She looks like a bridge troll but nothing light off can't fix.

I agree with Huhu's 4, 1, 2, 3.

#2 has gross looking implants which she considers her best asset.
#3 is butt ugly. She looks to have lost some weight for that picture when compared to her fat ass on the show, unless the photographer used some top notch photoshop skills.

i dont think u guys get the 1234 thing

ummm...

1,4,3,2 right?

And it's not even close? wtf?

+ Show Spoiler +

^ I debated whether or not 4 was better than 1, but then I some options to weigh out.

Both 4 and 1 look good when they have makeup on, but with no makeup, 4 is chubby on the show and looks better as she gets thinner (judging by the photo), and 1 looks pretty rough with no makeup. 1 has a better body though. I can kinda go back and forth, but either one doesn't clearly own the other one for my taste.

#3's face is totally fucked up, I don't see how you can think she's not the worst.

god 2 and 3 would probably have to pay some guy here to get laid

On June 05 2011 04:15 Spitfiree wrote: god 2 and 3 would probably have to pay some guy here to get laid

On June 05 2011 02:17 JonnyCosMo wrote: ummm... 1,4,3,2 right? And it's not even close? wtf?

agree with this order.




I dunno but for most other guys who voted here :

On June 05 2011 00:54 dogmeat wrote: i dont think u guys get the 1234 thing

thread took a serious derailling, back on track now though

1432 agreed

4123

2341 or 4123 either way you wanna look at it.

1,4,2,3. 3rd one is just plain ugly and at least 2 has those FF's.

4 is decent on the pic but is a grenade on the show. 1 is the only one that is not really ugly.

On June 05 2011 02:17 JonnyCosMo wrote: ummm... 1,4,3,2 right? And it's not even close? wtf?

This man. Listen to him.

anyone found episode 3 yet?

not aired yet

On June 05 2011 06:17 whamm! wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2011 02:17 JonnyCosMo wrote: ummm... 1,4,3,2 right? And it's not even close? wtf? agree with this order. I dunno but for most other guys who voted here :   On June 05 2011 00:54 dogmeat wrote: i dont think u guys get the 1234 thing

agreed, i think they dont get how the 1,2,3,4 thing works... the lowest the number the hotter.

doesnt it air every monday 11pm uk time?

1234 works as in order you d bang em no ?

this show is so ultimate... 2 things i wait for most in the week are epic mealtime and geordie shore.. anyone know what time it normally comes out online? for americans...like pacific timezone?