FrinkX   United States. Jun 02 2011 20:37. Posts 7562
fuck shut up
the chick with double F's on the geordie shore is more interesting to listen to
bitch on a pension suck my dong
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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 02 2011 20:50. Posts 34312
obviously Hicks isnt shitting on the act of dancing nor socializing, he is shitting on the club-scene, which is full of shallow and pathetic people.
He isnt against party, getting wasted, he has done his share of booze and drugs, its the place (and therefore people) that is shit, you know, when the place has a big bouncer and a chain, the place is full of idiots with ugly shirts unbuttoned far too low, shallow gold diggers with a lot of make up dancing to shitty hip-hop... that is the scene he and us, find pathetic.
Funktion   Australia. Jun 03 2011 15:03. Posts 1638
On June 02 2011 14:52 Loco wrote:
Can they sit quietly and pick up a book and have some real, uninterrupted focused study after having been on the computer or watching tv for hours? I highly doubt it, and that's the argument.
But more importantly, is there any reason why people would want to study anything when they can just take it easy and be entertained whenever? This is the biggest concern. The problem is not spending some time watching mindless entertainment. The problem is when it takes all the space and there is none left for study and self-cultivation.
You do realise that there are quite a few students on here in college/university etc or have already completed those qualifications? Last time I checked there is usually a large time commitment for those sorts of endeavours. There are also quite a few people on here who read books (what?). I know it's awesome to think that you are the last human on earth who still has an attention span over 13 seconds but that fact is you're not special. Most people here (probably all) are watching this for a laugh and have ZERO respect for these douches. It makes no sense what so ever to bring up your argument over this thread of all threads. If people where in here saying shit like "I want to be just like Jay when I grow up" then maybe dish out some of that high ground dribble you like but otherwise it's totally irrelevant. I'd probably join in.
This sounds appropriate "People just have this annoying habit of trying to 'correct' everyone's beliefs when they don't share them, often with complete lack of respect for the other person. It starts and ends with vanity with nothing to redeem it in-between."
BTW spent 10am - 3pm and then 9pm - 2am "sitting quietly" with a book for "uninterrupted focused study". You wet?
If you reply try to keep it under 500 words and no youtube bollocks please. I have books to read.
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 03 2011 16:50. Posts 9634
the topic you r discussing is so relative you cant just narrow it down to few simple arguments and that counts for both sides
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 04 2011 05:05. Posts 15163
Loco is right that the internetz and TV make emotional stimulation to easily accessible. I remember I had the most free time and was doing the most running, gym etc. when I was without a computer completely for 3 months. The reading a book thing and 'self cultivation' is being a douchebag with the need for self-affirmation though yourself Loco, because one way is right for you doesn't mean it's right for others.
Just because I find it fulfilling to study a wide range of subjects doesn't mean at all that I will look down upon someone who works on his body and sees it as the most important thing, someone who wants to pull birds, or someone who just wants to be happy in his life, and be passively entertained. Who are you to judge what's good and what's not, life purpose depends on each individual and his personal needs, values and desires.
On June 02 2011 14:52 Loco wrote:
Can they sit quietly and pick up a book and have some real, uninterrupted focused study after having been on the computer or watching tv for hours? I highly doubt it, and that's the argument.
But more importantly, is there any reason why people would want to study anything when they can just take it easy and be entertained whenever? This is the biggest concern. The problem is not spending some time watching mindless entertainment. The problem is when it takes all the space and there is none left for study and self-cultivation.
You do realise that there are quite a few students on here in college/university etc or have already completed those qualifications? Last time I checked there is usually a large time commitment for those sorts of endeavours. There are also quite a few people on here who read books (what?). I know it's awesome to think that you are the last human on earth who still has an attention span over 13 seconds but that fact is you're not special. Most people here (probably all) are watching this for a laugh and have ZERO respect for these douches. It makes no sense what so ever to bring up your argument over this thread of all threads. If people where in here saying shit like "I want to be just like Jay when I grow up" then maybe dish out some of that high ground dribble you like but otherwise it's totally irrelevant. I'd probably join in.
This sounds appropriate "People just have this annoying habit of trying to 'correct' everyone's beliefs when they don't share them, often with complete lack of respect for the other person. It starts and ends with vanity with nothing to redeem it in-between."
BTW spent 10am - 3pm and then 9pm - 2am "sitting quietly" with a book for "uninterrupted focused study". You wet?
If you reply try to keep it under 500 words and no youtube bollocks please. I have books to read.
You should read my posts before replying to me. I made it very obvious that I am like everybody else and the computer has done harm to my attention span. I don't have a good one and as a result I have to put a lot of effort into reading.
And I guess we're just in different circles, because I don't know many people who read seriously and especially not outside of required readings for school. And they all struggle with reading. Congratulations if you don't, you seem to be the one who thinks he's special with that post.
I do know of a ton of people who are ailed and they don't know why and have not learned to be responsible for themselves, and they all happen to fart around every day and enjoy maybe a little too much entertainment, and I'm not blaming them, I think it is largely the result of being brought up with access to such mediums.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
On June 04 2011 04:05 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
Who are you to judge what's good and what's not
Isn't that the task of a philosopher? Are all philosophers just unenlightened judgmental douchebags with a need for self-affirmation?
I'm a humanist and it's my job to make value judgments for the common good. You are deluded if you believe in bullshit subjectivity and not striving for the common good.
You sound like the woman at 8:45 of this video:
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
On June 04 2011 04:05 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
Who are you to judge what's good and what's not
Isn't that the task of a philosopher? Are all philosophers just unenlightened judgmental douchebags with a need for self-affirmation?
I'm a humanist and it's my job to make value judgments for the common good.
Wow
Dude you some social darwinist ideas that they are giving hitlers ghost a boner - Baal
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TheHuHu3   United States. Jun 04 2011 15:18. Posts 5544
On June 04 2011 13:18 Loco wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 04 2011 04:05 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
Who are you to judge what's good and what's not
I'm a humanist and it's my job to make value judgments for the common good. You are deluded if you believe in bullshit subjectivity and not striving for the common good.
And I am disappointed at the lack of thoughtful arguments in this thread. How unbelievably unimaginative and slothful some of you are. Tangential responses, mocking and personal attacks. Is that the best you can do, really? Play a game of hurt-feelings?
To those who will not engage me and merely attempt to ridicule me: what are you hiding behind? I would think that if I was truly being ridiculous and you guys could so easily see it from some vantage standpoint, it wouldn't take much effort to just lay it out here clearly for everybody to see. But that's not what you guys are doing. I don't think I am so stupid that I am beyond engaging, so please, either engage me on the ideas that I present and call me out on my bullshit clearly, or don't bother posting.
Should I have said that my philosophy is humanistic instead (on the model of ancient Greeks) and that I am coming from such a framework? I don't understand what the big deal is. Why is it so preposterous to call oneself a humanist (a believer in humanism)?
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 04 2011 15:40. Posts 15163
Can you define what 'common good' means from your perspective of humanist enlightened objective philosopher, who's job is to make value judgments?
See, it is hard to take you seriously when you call yourself that, most enlightened people I know are open minded and humble. I had several modules at university with great professors and amazing discussions on this subject, in particular on the purpose of business and sustainability and one and arguably the only specific thing everybody agreed on was that there are no answers set in stone and there are cultural, national and personal perspectives.
To be honest I still find it hard to believe you are not elaborately trolling.
93% Sure!
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royalsu   Canada. Jun 04 2011 16:06. Posts 3233
Purpose of life is to get laid. This is one of the only truths out there. That's why this show rocks.
Blah blah humanist...blah blah ancient greeks...blah blah stfu. If you're not talking about pussy in this thread then gtfo.
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CrownRoyal   United States. Jun 04 2011 16:09. Posts 11386
Loco do you think you would act like u do if it was normal?
Regardless of what u do in this life it wont make the slightest bit of difference 1s after you are dead. Maybe u should just try to enjoy your life and maybe this is the best way that u can enjoy your life who knows??!! You aren't going to change human instinctive behavior by trolling a thread that doesn't deserve to be trolled. I mean, are u a better person if u read the script to this show rather than watch it? It's pretty obvious u watch youtube 8hours a day, what difference does it make what lies that you fill your head with whether it's youtube or some stupid show with british people.
If you have the right to call everyone in this thread stupid and throw random bs no one cares about around they have the same right to reciprocate, I mean u post a youtube video of some random guy no one has heard of and act like it's law. I can get my uncle teddy to record a youtube video saying random things with no ground to stand on too.
Who cares if our attention spans are smaller? You're comparing us to the people of the past and the world has changed dramatically. You cant prove for 1 second that by reading books and living like we did in the stone age eating raw food is the optimal way to live in a modern world. We're obese now, we have ADD? Who cares we also live 4x longer lives on average live with a much higher standard of life and undoubtedly are much more "enlightened" than anyone who lived even 30 years ago. Why do we all have to have the capability to read a book and have perfect health. We aren't getting more stupid or less healthy the only thing that has changed is "normal" and "normal" has been changing since the dawn of time.