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Submitted by : MeaL

Full Tilt Poker Game #23717515998: Table Unger - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 04:19:07 ET - 2010/09/08
Seat 1: flyingshark ($223)
Seat 2: HAIL HYPNO TOAD ($203)
Seat 3: kin575 ($208)
Seat 4: BlackJunki ($200)
Seat 5: xavmanaxav ($67.40)
Seat 6: shotskee ($100)
Seat 7: MeaLOwNz ($249.80)
Seat 8: aligangsta ($517.10)
Seat 9: KingSlick03 ($256.65)
KingSlick03 posts the small blind of $1
flyingshark posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #8

Holecards
Dealt to MeaLOwNz
HAIL HYPNO TOAD folds
kin575 raises to $6
BlackJunki has 15 seconds left to act
BlackJunki folds
xavmanaxav folds
shotskee folds
MeaLOwNz raises to $18
aligangsta folds
KingSlick03 folds
flyingshark folds
kin575 raises to $48
MeaLOwNz has 15 seconds left to act
MeaLOwNz calls $30

Flop (Pot : $99.00)

   
kin575 has 15 seconds left to act
kin575 checks
MeaLOwNz checks

Turn (Pot : $99.00)

   
kin575 has 15 seconds left to act
kin575 has requested TIME
kin575 bets $44
MeaLOwNz calls $44

River (Pot : $187.00)

   
kin575 bets $116, and is all in
MeaLOwNz folds
MeaLOwNz adds $42.20
Uncalled bet of $116 returned to kin575
kin575 mucks
kin575 wins the pot ($184)

Summary
Total pot $187 | Rake $3
Board:
Seat 1: flyingshark (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: HAIL HYPNO TOAD didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: kin575 collected ($184), mucked
Seat 4: BlackJunki didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: xavmanaxav didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: shotskee didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: MeaLOwNz folded on the River
Seat 8: aligangsta (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: KingSlick03 (small blind) folded before the Flop

what about calling river........................?

I don't 3bet him to begin with.

On September 08 2010 04:11 Trey wrote: I don't 3bet him to begin with.

And if I do, I call here...

ok seems understandable

What does 53 stand for? Steal? If so, I probably dont 3bet.
I think that you show similar flaws here as in your 66-hand you posted. You dont really seem to have a plan in your head. Not that I can say I have that myself but when I look at this one and the 66-hand it seems like you autopilot a lot and never take that extra 5sec to think things through. To me it looks like when he bets turn he will shove river almost always. So....unless you're willing to call river the way you played I'd probably bet smallish on the flop hoping that he will c/f the occational AK (which he probably never has) and that he c/c QQ/KK.

Bare with me as i try to enter the world of a FR NLH NIT FACE:

Why wouldnt u 3bet here? wtf? cuz hes 13/10 and UTG+1? Jesus, shoot me in the face if I ever have to play FR.



Actual helpful(?) thoughts:

Why are u calling this 4b pf? Isnt this fold or shove?


What is ur thought process when he 4bets?

"OMG he has AA, he must. No way I can shove this with only KK, way too many combinations that can beat me. I mean, only a crazy batshit Aggro tard running something like 16/14 would shove here!"









Im sowwy

in general you get more value by flatting KK vs utg nits. also AA vs KK happens way more often than you would think in FR if you 3bet this spot every single time.

Call river imo, he's only got one hand in his range that beats you and you're crushing everything else.

On September 08 2010 18:50 offsuit wrote: Call river imo, he's only got one hand in his range that beats you and you're crushing everything else.

lol



had to

lol

As played snap call river.

Generally when we 3b pf w KK we do it with the intention of getting it in. I dunno what you're intention was here...

of course there's exceptions to this line of thought but this spot doesn't seem like one of em.

good fold