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gawdawaful   Canada. Sep 05 2010 18:33. Posts 9015 | | |
utg is 31/21
caller 1 is 12/12
caller 2 is 11/8
do I call or ship?
as played, bb who is 9/3 ships, if action folds around, do I call?
Submitted by : gawdawaful
PokerStars Game #49187428023: Tournament #328010687, $50+$5 USD Holdem No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2010/09/05 15:28:06 PT [2010/09/05 18:28:06 ET]
Table 328010687 252 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Jdruck1 (2435 in chips)
Seat 2: Jp kelly (5568 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero (4710 in chips)
Seat 4: CDeezy (3598 in chips)
Seat 5: bobboufl11 (6989 in chips)
Seat 6: ebandita (19388 in chips)
Seat 7: Urtz1 (5217 in chips)
Seat 8: HSneth (9902 in chips)
Seat 9: nanonoko (2945 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 100
CDeezy: posts big blind 200
Holecards Dealt to Hero 
bobboufl11: raises 200 to 400
ebandita: folds
Urtz1: folds
HSneth: calls 400
nanonoko: folds
Jdruck1: calls 400
Jp kelly: folds
Hero: calls 300
CDeezy: raises 3198 to 3598 and is all-in
bobboufl11: folds
HSneth: raises 6304 to 9902 and is all-in
Jdruck1: folds
Hero:
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offsuit   United States. Sep 05 2010 20:00. Posts 152 | | | |
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vltava   United States. Sep 05 2010 20:04. Posts 1742 | | |
12/12 called and then reshipped? I can't find a call here. Sounds like it was something like 99 versus AK and you would have held, oh well, you ran into the bottom of their ranges. |
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[GiTM]-Ace   United States. Sep 05 2010 22:29. Posts 1585 | | |
I would be calling if HSneth didnt ship...Actually knowing me I'd prolly still call lol..
You should have shipped before deezy did though  |
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offsuit   United States. Sep 06 2010 00:03. Posts 152 | | |
Ah, I got what you meant, do you flat the initial raise or ship, and as it happened do you call. Call/fold is the line here IMO, too much shit happening and TT isn't strong enough to ship with considering there's a raise and two calls in front of you. |
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matdon460   United States. Sep 06 2010 03:21. Posts 1089 | | |
pretty sure I ship the first time it got to you. as played I probably fold. |
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gawdawaful   Canada. Sep 06 2010 13:27. Posts 9015 | | |
I struggled with the first decision more actually. I was playing still at the time I posted this so my questions werent as clear.
Basically, my initial question was, do I ship or call the first time it gets to me in the sb when 2 super nits call the utg open. I was a bit weary of the first caller and not so much the 2nd caller because I feel its more likely the first caller is trapping a big pair since just about everyone else to act behind has a shipping stack.
My 2nd question was, after the bb shipped (who is 9/3) - if the action folds all the way around to me in the small blind, do I call given the amount of dead money in the pot? As played, considering the scariest person called, I pitched it pretty easily and bb had QQ, HSneth had KK.
I was really struggling with the first decision and I'm uncertain about the math should the action fold around to me after bb ships, hence why the thread. |
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[GiTM]-Ace   United States. Sep 06 2010 20:58. Posts 1585 | | |
ok when it first got to you. You should have shipped. When the BB shoved I would be calling his ship.Even though hes tight player I would give him about a squeezing range of like 7's+ATs+.. possible 8's and AJs+ but yea i wouldnt be folding T's to that. |
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TwistedEcho   United Kingdom. Sep 06 2010 21:49. Posts 3539 | | |
Shove pre the first time unless you have reads not to (not hud stats, actual reads)
Now fold, but shouldn't really have gotten to this situation |
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gawdawaful   Canada. Sep 07 2010 02:08. Posts 9015 | | |
hmm ship the first time around eh. Alright, thanks guys! |
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thewh00sel   United States. Sep 07 2010 22:11. Posts 2735 | | |
I play it the same as you |
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offsuit   United States. Sep 10 2010 02:30. Posts 152 | | |
Idk I liked the call, not a fan of throwing my stack in so light, but I don't think shipping is bad either. Looks like you would have been reraised anyway though. |
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