facing big river bet

I don't not have any reads on villian and do not know how he plays.

Submitted by : K40Cheddar

***** Hand History for Game 23538815519 ***** (Full Tilt)
$10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, September 01, 03:15:51 ET 2010
Table Mach 10 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: blindedbyd92 ( $10.98 USD )
Seat 2: K40cheddar ( $10.69 USD )
Seat 3: Patrik81 ( $19.05 USD )
Seat 4: kloktrap ( $10.15 USD )
Seat 5: AceMyDeuce ( $11.78 USD )
Seat 6: Phaet G ( $34.46 USD )
Seat 7: Laurettee ( $11.14 USD )
Seat 8: cuc70 ( $6.39 USD )
Seat 9: lockylock ( $3.90 USD )
AceMyDeuce posts small blind $0.05 USD.
Phaet G posts big blind $0.10 USD.

Holecards
Dealt to K40cheddar
Laurettee folds
cuc70 folds
lockylock folds
blindedbyd92 folds
K40cheddar raises $0.40 USD
Patrik81 folds
kloktrap folds
AceMyDeuce folds
Phaet G calls $0.30 USD

Flop (Pot : $0.85)

   
Phaet G checks
K40cheddar bets $0.70 USD
Phaet G calls $0.70 USD

Turn (Pot : $2.25)

   
Phaet G checks
K40cheddar bets $1.80 USD
Phaet G calls $1.80 USD

River (Pot : $5.85)

   
Phaet G bets $5.85 USD
K40cheddar

i fold

it's super gay but I can't find a call here =

prob snap it; if he calls gutters on the turn then sick. he's got a fat stack and flatted in the bb so i see him tooling out enough.

u gotta be good a third of the time and logically ur beat by a nine only unless he played a gutter or 77/1010 retardedly.

On September 01 2010 18:45 traxamillion wrote: prob snap it; if he calls gutters on the turn then sick. he's got a fat stack and flatted in the bb so i see him tooling out enough. u gotta be good a third of the time and logically ur beat by a nine only unless he played a gutter or 77/1010 retardedly.

god damnit u make sence.

probably a 9x

On September 01 2010 18:45 traxamillion wrote: prob snap it; if he calls gutters on the turn then sick. he's got a fat stack and flatted in the bb so i see him tooling out enough. u gotta be good a third of the time and logically ur beat by a nine only unless he played a gutter or 77/1010 retardedly.

what if he isn't calling gutters on the turn what the fuck is he leading river with. I know river leads are usually super weak but if we're assuming he folds gutters on the turn how many missed draws is he potting river with vs the combos of a 9 or a turn/rivered set?

feels like to me he has 9x...id prolly fold based on the bet...

uh fold i guess who cares u don't need to take on unnecessary risk at these stakes

On September 01 2010 15:16 K40Cheddar wrote: I would feel better calling here if he didn't pot it. Thoughts?

On the contrary, him potting it polarizes his range a lot more. So you can eliminate some hands you lose to like AK and KT. It actually doesn't reduce his range by that much in this particular hand but should be something for you to think about. That said, this hand is still a fold

Really? I see this a lot from fishes with missed FD I would think 9x wouldve raised at some point being afraid to be drawn out on.

On September 03 2010 07:03 Jhyun88 wrote: Really? I see this a lot from fishes with missed FD I would think 9x wouldve raised at some point being afraid to be drawn out on.

wrong. hes prob just thinking "omg i got a 9 , hel never guess i have a 9 if i dont raise"

"now let me pot river, it looks less suspicious than raising the turn and il get paid off"

ez fold imo

snap fold,

he thinks, well i got him to bet 2 times, i dont want to loose value, i should lead river woth close to nuts!

(Still im thinking he has TT or QJ) So he has u beat all the way, or on the river, no way this is a bluff. if he is bluffing he would have done it earlier in the hand, people who overplay flushdraws dont lead pot river