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exalted United States. Aug 30 2010 21:05. Posts 2918 | | |
Submitted by : exalted
Full Tilt Poker Game #23494966436: Table Douglas (6 max, shallow) - $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:10:01 ET - 2010/08/30
Seat 1: xeqtar ($597)
Seat 2: exaltedsky ($409.55)
Seat 3: hookuspookus ($1,961.85)
Seat 4: StackedCrooked ($1,053)
Seat 6: fcsm1589 ($195)
hookuspookus posts the small blind of $5
StackedCrooked posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #2
Holecards
Dealt to exaltedsky 
fcsm1589 folds
xeqtar raises to $20
exaltedsky calls $20
hookuspookus calls $15
StackedCrooked calls $10
Flop (Pot : $80.00)
  
hookuspookus checks
StackedCrooked checks
xeqtar checks
exaltedsky bets $57
hookuspookus has 15 seconds left to act
hookuspookus folds
StackedCrooked raises to $160
xeqtar folds
exaltedsky
information on reg: he is 36/19/2.4, 3b 5, wtsd 26. He is a big winner at the HS cap/shallow games (300k@1.71bb/100, which I think is solid enough)
For the specifics of this hand. Xeqtar is a fish, so an argument can be made to 3betting my hand preflop (for thin value, although he will probably never fold a flopped MP post.
I am pretty sure despite his low 3b, StackedCrooked is squeezing anything solid (QQ, AKo, JJ), so that can't be in his range. Given his stats, he probably does not 3b KJ/KQ etc.
It doesn't make sense that he would raise and shut the fish out. With a hand like QT, although it's hard for me to have a K or a strong hand here and therefore nice to semibluff raise, why not call and get the fish to put in dead money.
I can't make any sense of why he would do this for value, but at the same time while the fish has chked, I am still betting into 4 ppl with a fish present. I am legitimately confused.
Submitted by : exalted
Full Tilt Poker Game #23495112106: Table Mojave (6 max, shallow) - $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:16:32 ET - 2010/08/30
Seat 1: fcsm1589 ($185)
Seat 2: de la fold ($2,319.05), is sitting out
Seat 3: exaltedsky ($1,094)
Seat 4: Flaad ($231)
Seat 5: StackedCrooked ($436)
Seat 6: ProfitCenter ($406.25), is sitting out
StackedCrooked posts the small blind of $5
fcsm1589 posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #4
Holecards
Dealt to exaltedsky 
exaltedsky has 15 seconds left to act
exaltedsky raises to $20
Flaad folds
StackedCrooked calls $15
fcsm1589 calls $10
Flop (Pot : $60.00)
  
StackedCrooked checks
fcsm1589 checks
exaltedsky bets $38
StackedCrooked calls $38
fcsm1589 folds
Turn (Pot : $136.00)
StackedCrooked checks
exaltedsky has 15 seconds left to act
exaltedsky checks
River (Pot : $136.00)
StackedCrooked bets $100
exaltedsky
Hand 2 is similar, against same reg. I don't exactly know his calling range from the SB there, but because of the deviation between VPIP/PFR, he is probably calling pretty light here with some Axs, maybe semi-troublesome unsuited broadway (KJ KT).
Is he valuebetting worse / bluffing enough to warrant a call on the river here? Should I have just bet the turn to avoid this heartache?
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Rekrul United States. Aug 30 2010 22:22. Posts 3338 | | |
| | Is he valuebetting worse / bluffing enough to warrant a call on the river here? Should I have just bet the turn to avoid this heartache? |
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n0rthf4ce  United States. Aug 31 2010 00:05. Posts 8119 | | |
HAND 1 FOLD, HAND 2 CALL. hand 2 easier than hand 1 but both are EASY |
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NMcNasty United States. Aug 31 2010 00:53. Posts 2041 | | |
Hand 1 he can easily have KJo, K6s, J6s, and although QTo is likely, ur not gonna have odds vs that total range. You gotta have some proof villain is capable of turning a 1pair hand into a semi-bluff to continue.
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X YouGoTGoT United States. Aug 31 2010 10:46. Posts 1118 | | |
really?
stop leveling yourself man |
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n0rthf4ce United States. Aug 31 2010 10:54. Posts 8119 | | |
| | On August 30 2010 23:53 NMcNasty wrote:
Hand 1 he can easily have KJo, K6s, J6s, and although QTo is likely, ur not gonna have odds vs that total range. You gotta have some proof villain is capable of turning a 1pair hand into a semi-bluff to continue.
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No one is creative enough to c/r bluff 1p here from what I've seen but I'd like to be proven wrong |
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| | On August 31 2010 09:54 n0rthf4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 23:53 NMcNasty wrote:
Hand 1 he can easily have KJo, K6s, J6s, and although QTo is likely, ur not gonna have odds vs that total range. You gotta have some proof villain is capable of turning a 1pair hand into a semi-bluff to continue.
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No one is creative enough to c/r bluff 1p here from what I've seen but I'd like to be proven wrong
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Not with these stack sizes at least, hand #2 is super trivial ;-0 i don't get it |
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TimDawg United States. Aug 31 2010 17:23. Posts 10197 | | |
| | On August 30 2010 23:05 n0rthf4ce wrote:
HAND 1 FOLD, HAND 2 CALL. hand 2 easier than hand 1 but both are EASY |
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