Bad spot in Sunday 500

Ok so the guy who is 4betting was the most agressive tournament player i ve ever played with (maybe except for imdanuts), openning all the time,3beting and 4beting very light. I have AKs and 3bet utg raiser for value and then he 4bet me, i almost insta shoved it just because of the image of 4bettor but then think WTF am i doing? And still have no idea if this is a shove or fold...Any ideas?

PokerStars Game #48869114426: Tournament #327020018, $500+$30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (3000/6000) - 2010/08/30 0:04:11 ET
Table '327020018 26' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: AndrewBoccia (187465 in chips)
Seat 2: jeff710 (129426 in chips)
Seat 3: The-Toilet 0 (248797 in chips)
Seat 5: AreOut (148161 in chips)
Seat 6: golds333 (64646 in chips)
Seat 7: Sykoen (242291 in chips)
Seat 8: magom1968 (378249 in chips)
Seat 9: Debilne_Ucho (173489 in chips)
AndrewBoccia: posts the ante 600
jeff710: posts the ante 600
The-Toilet 0: posts the ante 600
AreOut: posts the ante 600
golds333: posts the ante 600
Sykoen: posts the ante 600
magom1968: posts the ante 600
Debilne_Ucho: posts the ante 600
AreOut: posts small blind 3000
golds333: posts big blind 6000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Debilne_Ucho [Kd Ad]
Sykoen: raises 6600 to 12600
magom1968: folds
Debilne_Ucho: raises 15399 to 27999
AndrewBoccia: folds
jeff710: folds
The-Toilet 0: raises 22506 to 50505
AreOut: folds
golds333: folds
Sykoen: folds

Can he really 4bet bluff ever in this spot since i am 30bb deep and im 3betting the utg raiser?

wow.. this is a genuine gay spot..

Dont have pokerstove on this comp, but if someone could give the 4better a range of

JJ+, AKo, AKs.

I know in tours Equity isnt everything since the payout structure is very top heavy so there is alot more merit to fold in some spots to make it deep rather then to flip it now.....

Lets just give this pot to him, there really isnt a reason for him to bluff here, so ur flipping at best..

I shove here

i never fold here vs toilet but im also relentlessly 3betting garbage vs utg openers. i dunno what he thinks of ur game but i probably still just shove.

i 3bet the utg opener because i did it twice before while he opened from middle position and utg+1 and i thought that he is capable of doing a move on me and 4bet sth to represent the nuts

On August 30 2010 13:26 Mierzwix wrote: i 3bet the utg opener because i did it twice before while he opened from middle position and utg+1 and i thought that he is capable of doing a move on me and 4bet sth to represent the nuts

dont you think toilet noticed that as well

yeah i m sure he saw it but i am not sure if i should shove...if he 4bet shoves i would snap call but here...heh dunno

yea i would shove, the toilet 0 is fking crazy

oh wow didn't know you were lper... I see you all the time in my 180s ( Mikedagreat1)

On August 31 2010 03:22 [GiTM]-Ace wrote: oh wow didn't know you were lper... I see you all the time in my 180s ( Mikedagreat1)

hah i see you too but last time i decided to donk out some money in mtt's like sunday 500 but i have to go back to the grind so see you soon

Hah btw Neverscaredb on the 2p2 wrote that he cant imagine folding aATo in this spot vs toilet so i feel better now i ran into AA obv

ATo really? I dunno although u have 3bet that guy twice. I just don't see how you can be to light here. I'm assuming your almost never 3 bet folding here with your stack. So Toilet is cold 4 betting into a stack thats never folding.

All that being said I doubt I'm folding AK though lol.

here is the link to my thread on 2p2 http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/87/...pot-sunday-500-a-864285/#post21237879

as n0rthf4ce said thetoilet is really fkin crazy

im never folding to toilet here. he's rly spewy and i'm pretty sure he has never thought through a decision in his life. He's cold 4bet then folded to me getting better than 3 to 1 in a live tourney. He clicks buttons, so click back, all in.

AKs is a good hand and the dynamic is fun. never folding.