nl200 QQ OOP riverbet

no reads vs villain. i do believe that he could have raised a FD on the flop to see a cheap river but then he bet the turn so i was lke meh. based on his turn sizing, i'd say he doesnt have 99 since he'd just barrel harder to get more value out of my overpair. is this river a call or fold? also i feel like there's nothing i can realli do vs that flop minr. like if i 3b, i'm not reali getting called by worse but calling and then checking turn gives him soo much control. overall what should i do on the flop when this happens? also wat about on the river?

Submitted by : wakamaru

***** Hand History for Game 23474713103 ***** (Full Tilt)
$200.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, August 30, 12:22:35 ET 2010
Table Hermes (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: biff_rydberg ( $268.90 USD )
Seat 2: incog206 ( $276.85 USD )
Seat 3: Jorisa ( $217.40 USD )
Seat 4: Gutshooter27 ( $203.70 USD )
Seat 5: Grubasek88 ( $397.85 USD )
Seat 6: Hero ( $403.75 USD )
Seat 7: horryclutch ( $211.00 USD )
Seat 8: subi3973 ( $566.05 USD )
Seat 9: psychotron93 ( $155.95 USD )
Gutshooter27 posts small blind $1.00 USD.
Grubasek88 posts big blind $2.00 USD.

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
Hero raises $7.00 USD
horryclutch folds
subi3973 folds
psychotron93 folds
biff_rydberg folds
incog206 calls $7.00 USD
Jorisa folds
Gutshooter27 folds
Grubasek88 folds

Flop (Pot : $17.00)

   
Hero bets $12.00 USD
incog206 raises $24.00 USD
Hero calls $12.00 USD

Turn (Pot : $65.00)

   
Hero checks
incog206 bets $35.00 USD
Hero calls $35.00 USD

River (Pot : $135.00)

   
Hero checks
incog206 bets $135.00 USD
Hero

Pretty clear fold if you ask me

flop feels like a showdown raise, turn can't do anything, river i'm folding

i think you could cib 3bet the flop actually just to make the hand super easy because he's going to snap flat it with a flush draw or 9 or whatever and 4bet with anything better. i mean in practice i'd never do this and it sounds retarded but it might not be awful vs someone who's so bad.

id see a lot of aa slowplayed so many times in this spot

i'd like to help, but you forgot to tell us which cards are wild

I'd always 3bet the flop, prob raise turn too

Not sure if I fold river

On September 01 2010 21:33 TimDawg wrote: I'd always 3bet the flop, prob raise turn too Not sure if I fold river

would 3bet the flop if it was 992?

On September 01 2010 22:07 vlseph wrote: Show nested quote + On September 01 2010 21:33 TimDawg wrote: I'd always 3bet the flop, prob raise turn too Not sure if I fold river would 3bet the flop if it was 992?

I wouldn't. But on this flop, I think a 3bt is ok.

i never see vilain betting a pot sized bet (135 lol) on such a river with something QQ beat.

On September 01 2010 21:33 TimDawg wrote: I'd always 3bet the flop, prob raise turn too Not sure if I fold river

listen to this. I'd do this on 6max all the time!

Paired flops is actually rly bad to rr, because your range is stupidly narrow. But it seems from my experience, a lot of people like to do it anyway. With like a medium pair, an ace, or the nuts.

So read dependant, if the villain aint that good, he might be doing it with the first hands, if he's rly solid, he's with the nuts. And best approach is to just 3b there on the flop get it in, or fold to the raise.

If you got reads he's an aggro'ish type of player, I see merits to calling and let him bluff off his stack with A high

If I'm continuing with the hand I 3bet flop, if I decide to flat, I prolly c/r turn. c/c c/c lines are going to get you in really harry spots. But I dont play FR so who the fck knows

WHY Would someone pot river with AA hen there hand gets beaten by more hands??