7 most important qualities?

work ethic is huge, esp considering that poker is largely a meritocracy

Hmm, must be having my stupid day. How to develop "strong/good" emotional control? Reading about meditation?

On August 29 2010 18:22 PanoRaMa wrote: work ethic is huge, esp considering that poker is largely a meritocracy

Yes meritocracy for grinders who always have 100+ bi and only move up when they have 200 bi and play a million+ hands a year. How many poker players are that? Most people make it through a tourny score or through some loose br management and a run-good.

On August 29 2010 18:23 Mariuslol wrote: Hmm, must be having my stupid day. How to develop "strong/good" emotional control? Reading about meditation?

discipline. when you get a bad beat, you say fuck it, and you keep yourself from getting angry. and eventually you dont give a fuck.

its easier to give in to your emotions and whine, but its something thats completely within your control. dont need to read about meditation or some crap.

does this brian tracy guy give any explanation for the 5-7 number? using that range as the key to success for "any line of work" seems so arbitrary to the point of being retarded. and like rekrul pointed out lots of goals can be expanded or collapsed to fit whatever # criteria you want to use, so i'm assuming this guy is some kind of self-help scam artist?

#1 being good at flipping

by far

Learn from other people
Making the best decisions possible at the tables
Reading opponments
Management of bankroll
Management of disipline
Work ethics
Creativity

On August 29 2010 18:51 bigredhoss wrote: does this brian tracy guy give any explanation for the 5-7 number? using that range as the key to success for "any line of work" seems so arbitrary to the point of being retarded. and like rekrul pointed out lots of goals can be expanded or collapsed to fit whatever # criteria you want to use, so i'm assuming this guy is some kind of self-help scam artist?

It feels legit and like a really good book to me, scam or not, I enjoy it a lot =]

Feel that most of the idea's and reasonings to be true.

He explains it by giving example in his own line of work, then of what it requires to be a leader, and some reference to Forbes 400.
Let me run and get it and write a sentence or something from it since you asked. Brb!! (Now i'm not here)

Ok, one example from leader positions:
1) Planning
2) organizing
3) choice of co-partners/employes
4) delegation
5) guidance
6) monitering progress
7) Raports

Don't feel any of it is related to poker though, just one of the examples. I think I translated it ok, book is Norwegian.

I said too much, going to bed, been writing 20 + pages of notes I'm poopt. Gn lp

yeah i don't doubt he has good experience/anecdotal stories to tell from his career, i just thought the idea of having 5-7 things as the key to success in any kind of work seemed kind of dubious. glad that you're enjoying the book though, i'm sure it has its merits : )

On August 29 2010 18:33 Maynard! wrote: Show nested quote + On August 29 2010 18:22 PanoRaMa wrote: work ethic is huge, esp considering that poker is largely a meritocracy Yes meritocracy for grinders who always have 100+ bi and only move up when they have 200 bi and play a million+ hands a year. How many poker players are that? Most people make it through a tourny score or through some loose br management and a run-good.

i was assuming op didnt want to base his poker career success on the offchance that he might run good the day he shot takes nosebleeds

i think if youre putting in less than 20 hours a week and arent an established high stakes player you aren't giving it what it takes to succeed in poker imo. of course i dont think that people need like 200 hours a month or anything though.

and this is coming from someone who only played 12k hands last month :D

luck mostly

others don't matter much

don't be a retard
dont tilt
play well
take responsibility for your results (yeah I'm sure you run bad, and everyone else runs good.. yeah sure (if your losing money 95%+ of the time it's your own fault))
BR managment (similar to don't tilt)
Mix it up / adapt
Buy some good luck charm so you win more flips then you deserve

have a humorous 'hook' so you get sponsorship (e.g. being a slightly above average looking female)

luck

On August 30 2010 00:28 byrnesam wrote: have a humorous 'hook' so you get sponsorship (e.g. being a slightly above average looking female)

this is the nutz in poker

Maynard: work ethic is extremely important imo. Not all of us have the talent that a lot of the high stakes crusher/ballas have. So we gotta work our way up. And that's through long hrs, working on the game, and all that other shit that undisciplined people hate doing.

But ya emotional control/tilt control is prob top 3 as well. I would probably rank as follows.

#1 tilt/emotional control
#2 work ethic
#3 bankroll management

the rest is fairly trivial imo. IF you have those 3 traits with half a brain anyone could be pretty successful at poker (and i mean successful at at least pulling in 6 figure years).

This mindset and approach is what finally got me out of my rut of being a broke loser into someone on the way up. Took a lot of soul searching for sure tho.

On August 29 2010 20:29 TalentedTom wrote: don't be a retard * 7

no1" Not being addicted to Dota

1) Has to be:
Having already decided whether you like Kirk or Picard

If you haven't moved past this, you can not focus on anything else.