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Mariuslol   Norway. Aug 29 2010 18:14. Posts 4742 | | |
Hey, I was just reading a book by Brian Tracy. And just now in one chapter he said in any line of work there was between 5-7 area's, skillsets you had to excell in. And a good way to do that was find the ones in your line of work, and use a scale from 1-10 and grade yourself.
I immeadtly connected it to poker, but I couldn't quite come up with them.
Anyone got suggestions, ideas to what's the 7 most important factors you have to excell in at Poker to be sucsessful?
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Mariuslol   Norway. Aug 29 2010 18:15. Posts 4742 | | |
If you don't average a 7 in each of them, you're not top 20% in your chosen profession. |
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Maynard!   United States. Aug 29 2010 18:27. Posts 4453 | | |
Emotional control and bankroll are #1 and #2. |
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GoTuNk   Chile. Aug 29 2010 18:48. Posts 2860 | | | |
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palak   United States. Aug 29 2010 18:55. Posts 4601 | | |
emotional control
logic
bankroll
math
self criticism
adaptability
constructive pride |
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Stygg   Sweden. Aug 29 2010 19:07. Posts 2347 | | |
| | On August 29 2010 17:55 palak wrote:
emotional control
logic
bankroll
math
self criticism
adaptability
constructive pride |
looks good to me |
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Rekrul   United States. Aug 29 2010 19:10. Posts 3338 | | |
| | On August 29 2010 18:07 Stygg wrote:
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On August 29 2010 17:55 palak wrote:
emotional control
logic
bankroll
math
self criticism
adaptability
constructive pride |
looks good to me
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except for the fact that the last three are all the same thing |
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joLin   United States. Aug 29 2010 19:10. Posts 3818 | | |
perspective. something most players who stagnate dont have. |
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Mariuslol   Norway. Aug 29 2010 19:22. Posts 4742 | | |
Awesome, the emotional control felt so solid and right when I read it. Thanks. |
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PanoRaMa   United States. Aug 29 2010 19:22. Posts 1655 | | |
work ethic is huge, esp considering that poker is largely a meritocracy |
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Mariuslol   Norway. Aug 29 2010 19:23. Posts 4742 | | |
Hmm, must be having my stupid day. How to develop "strong/good" emotional control? Reading about meditation? |
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Maynard!   United States. Aug 29 2010 19:33. Posts 4453 | | |
| | On August 29 2010 18:22 PanoRaMa wrote:
work ethic is huge, esp considering that poker is largely a meritocracy |
Yes meritocracy for grinders who always have 100+ bi and only move up when they have 200 bi and play a million+ hands a year. How many poker players are that? Most people make it through a tourny score or through some loose br management and a run-good. |
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joLin   United States. Aug 29 2010 19:38. Posts 3818 | | |
| | On August 29 2010 18:23 Mariuslol wrote:
Hmm, must be having my stupid day. How to develop "strong/good" emotional control? Reading about meditation? |
discipline. when you get a bad beat, you say fuck it, and you keep yourself from getting angry. and eventually you dont give a fuck.
its easier to give in to your emotions and whine, but its something thats completely within your control. dont need to read about meditation or some crap. |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Aug 29 2010 19:51. Posts 8649 | | |
does this brian tracy guy give any explanation for the 5-7 number? using that range as the key to success for "any line of work" seems so arbitrary to the point of being retarded. and like rekrul pointed out lots of goals can be expanded or collapsed to fit whatever # criteria you want to use, so i'm assuming this guy is some kind of self-help scam artist? |
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Joe   Czech Republic. Aug 29 2010 19:52. Posts 5987 | | |
#1 being good at flipping
by far |
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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Aug 29 2010 20:04. Posts 5127 | | |
Learn from other people
Making the best decisions possible at the tables
Reading opponments
Management of bankroll
Management of disipline
Work ethics
Creativity
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Mariuslol   Norway. Aug 29 2010 20:24. Posts 4742 | | |
| | On August 29 2010 18:51 bigredhoss wrote:
does this brian tracy guy give any explanation for the 5-7 number? using that range as the key to success for "any line of work" seems so arbitrary to the point of being retarded. and like rekrul pointed out lots of goals can be expanded or collapsed to fit whatever # criteria you want to use, so i'm assuming this guy is some kind of self-help scam artist? |
It feels legit and like a really good book to me, scam or not, I enjoy it a lot =]
Feel that most of the idea's and reasonings to be true.
He explains it by giving example in his own line of work, then of what it requires to be a leader, and some reference to Forbes 400.
Let me run and get it and write a sentence or something from it since you asked. Brb!! (Now i'm not here)
Ok, one example from leader positions:
1) Planning
2) organizing
3) choice of co-partners/employes
4) delegation
5) guidance
6) monitering progress
7) Raports
Don't feel any of it is related to poker though, just one of the examples. I think I translated it ok, book is Norwegian.
I said too much, going to bed, been writing 20 + pages of notes I'm poopt. Gn lp
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Aug 29 2010 20:38. Posts 8649 | | |
yeah i don't doubt he has good experience/anecdotal stories to tell from his career, i just thought the idea of having 5-7 things as the key to success in any kind of work seemed kind of dubious. glad that you're enjoying the book though, i'm sure it has its merits : ) |
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PanoRaMa   United States. Aug 29 2010 20:52. Posts 1655 | | |
| | On August 29 2010 18:33 Maynard! wrote:
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On August 29 2010 18:22 PanoRaMa wrote:
work ethic is huge, esp considering that poker is largely a meritocracy |
Yes meritocracy for grinders who always have 100+ bi and only move up when they have 200 bi and play a million+ hands a year. How many poker players are that? Most people make it through a tourny score or through some loose br management and a run-good.
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i was assuming op didnt want to base his poker career success on the offchance that he might run good the day he shot takes nosebleeds
i think if youre putting in less than 20 hours a week and arent an established high stakes player you aren't giving it what it takes to succeed in poker imo. of course i dont think that people need like 200 hours a month or anything though.
and this is coming from someone who only played 12k hands last month :D |
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Svenman87   United States. Aug 29 2010 21:10. Posts 4636 | | |
luck mostly
others don't matter much  |
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