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wakamaru   United States. Aug 25 2010 16:40. Posts 236

so i'm confused as to the line i should take. do i bet or check back? if i bet, am i completely shutting down on any turn and rivers other than a K? if i check back, am i calling 2 streets on blanks? i put the limper on a ton of like pocket pairs and connectors and some small Aces. the cold caller has medium to high pairs as well as AT+ i think along with some KQ ish hands i think..

the board is kinda dry and i basiclaly have no idea how to navigate this hand for 3 streets despite being in position. checking back and calling seems weak, betting seems spewy and pointless....

Submitted by : wakamaru

Full Tilt Poker Game #23359064512: Table Adrenaline - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:35:56 ET - 2010/08/25
Seat 1: oneshaygiven ($106.50)
Seat 2: sondanielson ($3.80)
Seat 3: Fabo7 ($92.75)
Seat 4: Sinthoras1 ($108.60)
Seat 5: DoubleDoner ($40)
Seat 6: Hero ($218.50)
Seat 7: EiQ_200 ($125.70)
Seat 8: liadmos ($226.95)
Seat 9: brkb4life ($55.80)
brkb4life posts the small blind of $0.50
oneshaygiven posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #8

Holecards
Dealt to HeroKhKd
sondanielson folds
Fabo7 calls $1
Sinthoras1 folds
DoubleDoner folds
Hero has 8 seconds left to act
Hero raises to $5
EiQ_200 folds
liadmos folds
brkb4life calls $4.50
oneshaygiven folds
Fabo7 has 15 seconds left to act
Fabo7 calls $4

Flop (Pot : $16.00)

   8cAs5d
brkb4life checks
Fabo7 checks
Hero

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Jun   Croatia. Aug 25 2010 16:42. Posts 825

Betting isn't pointless. Bet something lik 10-12 and evaluate turn.

Life is a coinflip 

BangYu   United States. Aug 25 2010 16:43. Posts 251

check, bet bet


Jun   Croatia. Aug 25 2010 17:25. Posts 825


  On August 25 2010 15:43 BangYu wrote:
check, bet bet



That doesnt make sense bro

Life is a coinflip 

JSquids   United States. Aug 25 2010 17:35. Posts 1142

i bet 11 then give up when called..... i cant see any other way of playing this.

im pretty sure if u bet flop , who ever calls willl check the turn to you with an ace... fold riv if he bets big tho ofc.

AKA StarsNStripes@azeroth 

TalentedTom    Canada. Aug 25 2010 17:42. Posts 20070

i check flop almost 100% of the time here

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

TalentedTom    Canada. Aug 25 2010 17:43. Posts 20070

if I bet I would go with a very small number, like $3--7

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

Jun   Croatia. Aug 25 2010 17:44. Posts 825


  On August 25 2010 16:42 TalentedTom wrote:
i check flop almost 100% of the time here



Really? Considering there's a limper who has a superwide range? I mean checking can be good i guess, but could u explain thought process?

Life is a coinflip 

traxamillion   United States. Aug 25 2010 19:25. Posts 10468

when you bet you aren't getting value from any worse hands 3ways to the flop in full ring. You are betting basically to take down the pot which if they fold you win at showdown anyways.

betting flop prevents them from bluffing you later or w/e but just play some turn/river poker here. I'd check an ace on this flop too so checking this is good and sometimes im just going to go for river value or thin turn value


Maynard!   United States. Aug 25 2010 19:26. Posts 4453

No reason to bet in position unless you think people will call and softplay worse

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

joLin   United States. Aug 25 2010 19:45. Posts 3818


  On August 25 2010 16:44 Jun wrote:
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Really? Considering there's a limper who has a superwide range? I mean checking can be good i guess, but could u explain thought process?

even vs the fish you wont get 3 streets (will often be value towning yourself if you go for 3 streets and get called down), so checking flop back with the intention to bet the turn if checked to is better.

YoUr_KiLLeR @ TL 

SpasticInk   Sweden. Aug 25 2010 20:15. Posts 6298

I would be happy w/ one street value here. Check back, bet turn if checked again, and check river prob.


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Aug 25 2010 21:04. Posts 8918

Just check back, you are WA/WB here so betting is spewy, it would be much better with a hand like TT where you are happy just taking it down.


Mariuslol   Norway. Aug 26 2010 03:28. Posts 4742

I'd go with check as well, if they call, they have the Ace, if you check, you keep in hands you beat? And later get value from weaker pairs n shit.


 



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