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DeluX   Canada. Aug 24 2010 10:16. Posts 34

Hey guys !

You might recognize me from that lame thread. I tried some softwares and already progressed alot.
-Tried PokerEdge but didnt like it
-Did alot of ICM training
-Reviewing my play after 5-6 games with SngWiz (stil on trial)
-Next up is HEM trial.

I tried alot of different tables on FTP and the ones I like best are sup-turbo. I love the fast games and the shove/fold strategy. I'm up 50$ now yay! but still trying to figure out what is the best tables to play on.

I've figured to 6 man doesn't worth it at micro states since some randoms guys always dies fast on 9 man.I like the 54 man and done considerably well on them.

I also enjoy to steps tourney, I find it fairly easy to get to step 3 with only 1.10$ never got to step 4 tho.

Anyway I'd like to know what you guys think of the sup-turbo/steps on FTP, what's your opinion on them?.

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Jun   Croatia. Aug 24 2010 10:50. Posts 825

Bleh, dont play those sup turbo's they really suck. Just play the 9 mans normal or turbo's, not superturbos. You'll never learn to play decent

Life is a coinflip 

vlseph   United States. Aug 24 2010 15:59. Posts 3026

Super turbos are VERY high variance, although its nice to just mindless grind rakeback off of it though or w/e.

The only hands a nit balances in his range are the nuts, the second nuts, and the third nuts. 

Jubert69   United States. Aug 24 2010 16:51. Posts 3191

What vlseph and Jun said.

Even if you have a edge at those limits which you probably do, your variance will be much lower and have a more consistent winning rate with slower blind rate sngs.


Zep   United States. Aug 24 2010 17:13. Posts 2292


  On August 24 2010 15:51 Jubert69 wrote:
What vlseph and Jun said.

Even if you have a edge at those limits which you probably do, your variance will be much lower and have a more consistent winning rate with slower blind rate sngs.


This.
As long as you don't mind being + - 100 buyins at any given time, Super Turbos are extremely profitable w/ RB

NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future. 

MayZerG   United Kingdom. Aug 24 2010 17:36. Posts 2123

rakeback from FTP sngs? you are joking right? you get practically nothing lol.

Edit: Unless someone is happy to prove me wrong?

I like to hold all the nuts - CrownRoyalLast edit: 24/08/2010 17:58

Zep   United States. Aug 24 2010 18:37. Posts 2292


  On August 24 2010 16:36 MayZerG wrote:
rakeback from FTP sngs? you are joking right? you get practically nothing lol.

Edit: Unless someone is happy to prove me wrong?


well if you 16 table you can complete 52/hour and make $12/hr in rb playing $20 super turbos.
im not saying it's the most efficient way to use a 2k br but it's not terrible money.

NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future. 

mnj   United States. Aug 24 2010 22:45. Posts 3848

i actually like both, learning to play "diff forms" of poker doesn't just stop at learning different games. beating super turbos made me really appreciate how wide people's ranges are in different scenarios.


fakeshaver   United States. Aug 24 2010 22:49. Posts 1313

i like super turbos if you can only put in a short session. maybe afraid about your internet connection. but i think turbos are better if you have time.


MayZerG   United Kingdom. Aug 25 2010 01:44. Posts 2123


  On August 24 2010 17:37 Zep wrote:
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well if you 16 table you can complete 52/hour and make $12/hr in rb playing $20 super turbos.
im not saying it's the most efficient way to use a 2k br but it's not terrible money.


Which is kinda what i meant dude, so playing 52 $20 turbos, you get $12 rakeback which is not even the cost of 1 turbo... pretty terrible.

I like to hold all the nuts - CrownRoyal 

qwerty67890   New Zealand. Aug 25 2010 02:03. Posts 14026

what games can you earn a full buyin worth of rake back in 1 hour?


vlseph   United States. Aug 25 2010 02:09. Posts 3026

but the fpps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only hands a nit balances in his range are the nuts, the second nuts, and the third nuts. 

MayZerG   United Kingdom. Aug 25 2010 13:06. Posts 2123


  On August 25 2010 01:03 byrnesam wrote:
what games can you earn a full buyin worth of rake back in 1 hour?



On Rush or 12 tabling normal cash, can get 1 buyin in 2 hours .

I like to hold all the nuts - CrownRoyalLast edit: 25/08/2010 14:33

jchysk   United States. Aug 25 2010 16:33. Posts 435

You can play about 50 superturbos STTs an hour if you keep 16 up at a time, so basically it comes down to your maintainable ROI + the rakeback which is easily enough calculated. Like some of the other responses say, variance is high. It's pretty common to go on 50 buyin swings above and below expectation, so 100 buy-in swings are also not far out of reach.

w00t 

qwerty67890   New Zealand. Aug 26 2010 05:09. Posts 14026


  On August 25 2010 12:06 MayZerG wrote:
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On Rush or 12 tabling normal cash, can get 1 buyin in 2 hours .


so you earn 1/2 buyin per hour, which is worse return than the SnGs


pluzich   . Aug 26 2010 06:12. Posts 828


  On August 26 2010 04:09 byrnesam wrote:
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so you earn 1/2 buyin per hour, which is worse return than the SnGs



No you didn't get it he gets a full buy-in (in 2 hours).

 Last edit: 26/08/2010 06:12

jchysk   United States. Aug 26 2010 07:30. Posts 435


  On August 26 2010 05:12 pluzich wrote:
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No you didn't get it he gets a full buy-in (in 2 hours).



(1/2 buy-in per hour == full buy-in in 2 hours) < rakeback in superturbos by hourly

w00t 

YouGoTGoT   United States. Aug 26 2010 16:29. Posts 1118

[x] superior math skills on display ITT

YA I TALK SHIT, GOTTA DEFECATE TO CONVERSATE 

 



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