Thorladen cheating?

if this is real this is pretty grimy. always seemed like an older stand up dude when he posted here.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/...-sorel-mizzi-thorladen-x-mttc-859424/

ugh read thhrough the chat log, seems v. shady if real

should be easy for someone here who knows either of them to confirm if its their writing style

yikes

its virtually confirmed on 2+2 Mttc that it is a real chat log.

Thorladen response

" I have not engaged in this activity with Sorel. I would not engage
in this activity ever. I am voluntarily cooperating completely with Full Tilt
in an investigation of these alleged activities.
thorladen is offline Report Post Reply With Quote"

So the chat did happen but he says they didn't go through with it basically.

but who knows

Poker players will do anything for money. What is surprising here?

So thorladen baited the trap and then unloaded all this stuff to 2+2?

Its not like there isnt a gang of chinese kids using it to grind SnGs and bank $500k/year right now on every major site.

Convo is 1.5-2 years old & was apparently sent out to all the players that were supposed to be involved and somehow was leaked i'm assuming not by thorladen & zangbezan24.

cliffs?

sorel stay grimy

gunna go w/ thorladen isnt a cheater if i had to guess

wow this is pretty nuts

The stupidest thing about this is that it basically describes in detail how to set-up a multi-accounting empire. Not that it would be difficult to figure out but 2+2 should have blacked out some of the technical information where appropriate. Like really it's basically a how-to chat-log.

I'll reserve any judgment until the investigation is done and over with. The chat log itself looks like it would be pretty easy to fake but apparently some others have commented on this LP thread that there is evidence which further contributes to the credibility that the chat log is in fact real?

With the amount of information poker sites grab from our computers I think it'd be pretty easy to figure out if they use remote software, if it's being accessed while poker is being played, and if there's a poker office with different IPs. If it's from the same ISP in the same area all the IP addresses are going to be pretty similar. The problem is none of that proves anything since people remote into their computers all the time, whether to play poker or do something else and I know there are many "poker houses". Something a little better than a chat log of questionable authenticity will need to be brought forth.
One thing is if network scans were done (I know PS does it, don't know about FTP) then they would know all the connecting IP addresses to that computer. If the same one IP address was connected to all the computers of the accounts in question while they were being played on it would certainly be suspicious.

On August 23 2010 18:43 Bejamin1 wrote: The stupidest thing about this is that it basically describes in detail how to set-up a multi-accounting empire. Not that it would be difficult to figure out but 2+2 should have blacked out some of the technical information where appropriate. Like really it's basically a how-to chat-log. I'll reserve any judgment until the investigation is done and over with. The chat log itself looks like it would be pretty easy to fake but apparently some others have commented on this LP thread that there is evidence which further contributes to the credibility that the chat log is in fact real?

Ya, thought it would show a bunch of people how to do it also.

thorladen wrote in the thread linked from in the OP in the 2+2 thread.
His comment:

I have not engaged in this activity with Sorel. I would not engage in this activity ever. I am voluntarily cooperating completely with Full Tilt in an investigation of these alleged activities.

from: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61/...den-857685-post21091572/#post21091572

This just proves that you can't judge anyone.

On August 23 2010 20:15 concrescence wrote: Show nested quote + [B thorladen wrote in the thread linked from in the OP in the 2+2 thread. His comment: [quote]I have not engaged in this activity with Sorel. I would not engage in this activity ever. I am voluntarily cooperating completely with Full Tilt in an investigation of these alleged activities. from: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61/...den-857685-post21091572/#post21091572

sop basically he entertained the idea thought it was a good one but didnt end up doing it...idk what to make of that really, I wonder if Sorel ended up following through with it

any smart person who is decent with computers can figure out the shit in here. that doesn't make thor a cheater

On August 23 2010 23:54 n0rthf4ce wrote: any smart person who is decent with computers can figure out the shit in here. that doesn't make thor a cheater

[ ] he figured it out
[x] he discussed seriously about doing this with Sorel
[?]he actually cheated.

Ya but its just like that PTR security article. People who weren't thinking about it now are and its more of a threat than it used to be.