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wakamaru   United States. Aug 22 2010 12:59. Posts 236

Submitted by : wakamaru

***** Hand History for Game 23277890257 ***** (Full Tilt)
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, August 22, 12:08:34 ET 2010
Table Adrenaline (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: cutsup ( $75.30 USD )
Seat 2: Gofa ( $136.70 USD )
Seat 3: karazyb ( $100.00 USD )
Seat 4: Hero ( $112.35 USD )
Seat 5: bigcat_44 ( $60.80 USD )
Seat 6: eratostenes ( $190.55 USD )
Seat 7: November Player ( $55.20 USD )
Seat 8: FoxATN ( $105.85 USD )
Seat 9: El Joosy ( $75.90 USD )
karazyb posts small blind $0.50 USD.
Hero posts big blind $1.00 USD.

Holecards
Dealt to Hero Jc5c
bigcat_44 folds
eratostenes folds
November Player folds
FoxATN folds
El Joosy folds
cutsup folds
Gofa raises $3.00 USD
karazyb folds
Hero raises $10.00 USD
Gofa calls $8.00 USD

Flop (Pot : $21.50)

   Jh3h9c
Hero bets $12.00 USD
Gofa calls $12.00 USD

Turn (Pot : $45.50)

   Jh3h9cAh
Hero



only 19 hands on villain. i guess i could choose a better hand for 3betting pre but it's not that important as button r fairly wide and watnot. so on the flop, i know i'm supposed to bet but i have no idea y i'm betting. i suppose i'm getting value from lower pairs and protection vs overcards. on the turn i dunno if i should barrel since i do see him floating sometimes with like AQ or AK. so i guess i should c/c the turn since an ace is a good card for him to bluff but like wat do i do on the river? c/f a blank? i'm just confused here since i realized with no reads means i have no idea wat his 3bet calling range is although at nl100 i think it's a ton of pairs and broadway cards.

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piratematerial   Netherlands. Aug 22 2010 22:47. Posts 773

3bet a little bit bigger OOP so you get less calls. the flop bet is fine. you are betting because you 3bet preflop and rep a strong range that is ofcourse firing the flop, your pair makes this a semi-bluff.

i think you have to bet the turn. This card hits your perceived range.

on the river i would bet on a lot off cards, probably also all hearth

if the river comes an A i think i give up but otherwise not too much. not so sure about Q's or K's.

i don't like check calling the turn.


wakamaru   United States. Aug 23 2010 00:15. Posts 236

if i'm semibluffing this turn, what hands are he folding that i dunt beat? i think QQ and KK usually just ships it pre since it's b v bb so there's not many combos of those in his range. also i feel like KK QQ raises that flop if they were caling to trap pre or w.e. i guess i'm essentially bluffing against other jacks which solely comprise of JT JQ and JK which are very small % of his range thereby making such a bluff not good.


Mariuslol   Norway. Aug 26 2010 04:22. Posts 4742

I'd make it 11-13, somewhere there oop pre. As played the c-bet is standard, I'd make it a little bigger, 14-16.

What you I'd do on turn really depends on the villain, and the feel you have atm lol. If he looks like a station, I'd not fire, and he'd check worse hands, and you might do something on the river, if he's rly tight, timid, id still check, if he's bluffy/loose, I'd check, maybe call.

Ok, im not being very helpful, I'll shut up


mnj   United States. Aug 26 2010 04:47. Posts 3848

really i check here alottttttttttttttt


mnj   United States. Aug 26 2010 04:47. Posts 3848

check the flop i mean


mnj   United States. Aug 26 2010 04:47. Posts 3848

and then i prob check this turn and bet river to let him bluff catch


vlseph   United States. Aug 26 2010 11:30. Posts 3026

i'd prob wait more than 19 hands to get more information before i 3bet light an unknown OOP

The only hands a nit balances in his range are the nuts, the second nuts, and the third nuts. 

moonk379   United States. Aug 26 2010 13:00. Posts 355

Id prefer to 3b this vs unknown ip.

ill wit it 

Samsung   Poland. Aug 26 2010 17:06. Posts 238

if you c, it will propably go ch/ch and he will value town you on the river, you can consider turning your hand into a bluff, bet turn, bet riv, you should fold out most of his range there


cantonaa   . Aug 27 2010 08:28. Posts 50

id just fold preflop. as played i would probably fire again planning on c/f any heart river and check-evaluate the rest of the rivers.


zulu_nation8   United States. Aug 27 2010 14:11. Posts 1929

why would you ever 3bet this hand and if you do do it why would you 3bet it from the blinds

 Last edit: 27/08/2010 14:38

phexac   United States. Aug 27 2010 20:18. Posts 2563

I'm with people who are saying you need a reason to 3b there other than you've seen it done in CR videos.

Nitting it up since 2006 

whamm!   Albania. Aug 27 2010 21:48. Posts 11625

as played bet turn then go back to 3betting 3% if he calls/raises


AndrewSong    United States. Aug 27 2010 23:44. Posts 2355

Ya, i hate your c-bet specially with your hand. It's nice to have a strong checking range on board like this and this hand fits perfect. You're not in a spot where you can go for 3streets of value, get called and be expected good alot of the times either.


 



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