Hands vs Aggro 4bettor

just 5 bet shove this guy, his name is SIRSPEWALOT

1st hand is an obvious preflop shove or at least bet the turn

hand 2 is another obvious jam lol

you should probably just be shipping 99+/aj+ vs his 4bets probably even wider

even though his 5bet calling range is tighter than his 4bet range it doesn't mean you shouldnt 5bet cause you will be getting it in bad sometimes. everytime he does fold he loses a 4th of a buyin and when you do get it in bad you still have equity.

If he doesn't tighten up as you loosen the 5bet shoving range he is going to be bleeding tons of money it looks like

ummm it's very simple... don't 3bet him unless your plan ahead of time is to jam preflop... 3-betting him and flatting his 4-bets is irrational

On August 21 2010 20:31 MJD wrote: Thanks for all the responses, obviously I haven't encountered this too much at the penny tables. Seems like since my 3bet range = my 5bet range, I should 3bet a TON wider just to exploit how often he will be folding when I push. I'm thinking I might play around with something like AX, KT+, 66+ until I get caught and see how that goes.

He's there to gamble and will be slow to adjust, so keep ones 5 bet range a tight AA-77, AK , one can loosen up by adding ATs+,KQs,. KJs and QJs but don't go ape just because he's one.

On August 21 2010 19:58 TalentedTom wrote: ummm it's very simple... don't 3bet him unless your plan ahead of time is to jam preflop... 3-betting him and flatting his 4-bets is irrational

+1

if you're having trouble against this kind of super-aggro-i-flop-anything villian, you should just get another table. There are plenty at these stakes. There is no need to stress yourself out unless you like variance

Now that I see the posts it def does seem like 4-bet flatting is stupid and unnecessarily complicates the dynamics. If his 5 bet calling range is tighter than doesn't that tell us to loosen up our 5-bet range? I mean if he's got A2s in his 4bet range than even if his 5bet calling range narrows to like AQs we still have a ton of equity relative to all the hands we get him to fold.

a2 actually a little better than a9 vs tight calling range because you hit more straights

You can easily consider calling preflop and set mining with the JJ as well if you are scared to get it in pre. I don't think you should flat the 4bet.

and the 2nd hand i would shove preflop

set mining JJ against an aggro 4better is absurd.