Flopped set in 3bet pot multiway, flopaction?

So CO is playing something like 39/31 over 130 hands. BTN is a semireg playing 22/18 with a 3bet of 10.5 over 230 hands. This guy has been 3betting without mercy from the blinds and i've 3bet/5betshoved a PP once vs him this session but I still don't expect him to 3bet me light when i'm UTG. Given the floptexture and the fact that we're multiway, what's our optimal line here?

Submitted by : timgud

***** Hand History for Game 3483770881 ***** (Prima)
$100.00 USD NL Texas Holdem - Saturday, August 21, 02:32:54 ET 2010
Table Rovaniemi 2 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: BigSp3nder ( $95.00 USD )
Seat 2: elena08 ( $83.42 USD )
Seat 3: Hero ( $156.16 USD )
Seat 4: miksu56789 ( $31.10 USD )
Seat 5: Andryuha ( $100.00 USD )
Seat 6: darnaudov ( $188.35 USD )
BigSp3nder posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
elena08 posts big blind [$1.00 USD].

Holecards
   
Hero raises [$4.00 USD]
miksu56789 folds
Andryuha calls [$4.00 USD]
darnaudov raises [$14.00 USD]
BigSp3nder folds
elena08 folds
Hero calls [$10.00 USD]
Andryuha calls [$10.00 USD]

Flop (Pot : $43.50)

   
Hero checks
Andryuha checks
darnaudov bets [$25.00 USD]
Hero ?

i dont get it
raise?

ye, that's what i think too (and what i did). my question though is if it's ever more +EV to call in a situation like this while we're multiway?

this board is kindof ugly to slowplay on
cards like 6, 8 and J are also going to slow others down

i'd raise to 60$ and shove any turn

i dont get it, you dont expect him to squeesh you light here while you are UTG yet you call this 3bet OOP with 99 planning on doing what postflop?
you'll have a hard time playing this OOP 3w. as played i would check/raise, but i dont mind donking this flop either.

The call preflop is not cause i think our 99 ever is good vs villains range. I called trying to spike a set multiway 160bb deep vs an aggressive villain. Figured i had enough implied odds to make the call +EV multiway since this fish also calls a ton of the time in this spot.

Ill raise here

btw i'd much rather spike a set against a really really tight villain, since that means he always has KK or AA here (while he shouldn't be so tight that he ever folds it postflop)

the loose/aggro squeezer will simply dump his A3s to your checkraise

On August 21 2010 14:09 timgud wrote: The call preflop is not cause i think our 99 ever is good vs villains range. I called trying to spike a set multiway 160bb deep vs an aggressive villain. Figured i had enough implied odds to make the call +EV multiway since this fish also calls a ton of the time in this spot.

i rly think you are overestimating your odds here. to set hunt in 3b pots i usually am looking for a spot with at least 200bb in position.

and even if u do hit you arent gonna get paid everytime you hit, so i rly hate your preflop play with the intension to sethunt.

On August 23 2010 09:58 gororokgororok wrote: and even if u do hit you arent gonna get paid everytime you hit, so i rly hate your preflop play with the intension to sethunt.

meaning you just fold nines against a button squeeze?

Don't fold

On August 23 2010 14:37 chipsOwner wrote: Show nested quote + On August 23 2010 09:58 gororokgororok wrote: and even if u do hit you arent gonna get paid everytime you hit, so i rly hate your preflop play with the intension to sethunt. meaning you just fold nines against a button squeeze?

If i think he's out of line here im more inclined to turn my hand into a 4bbluf then calling OOP and playing it postflop. and i rly dont mind folding nines to a squeesh in general.

how about a lead?

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meh i think a c/c on the flop would be alright the better and or more likely he is to think (realize) you are nutted and not bluffing here

like would you raise jj or QJ* on this flop? and if you do slowplay on this flop while a few turns are bad some are going to be really good and get you paid off whereas with a flop raise you lose the action.

since you are deep you should usually raise... I mean you can slowplay but shit turn/river will come to you kill ure action if not ure hand.

ill raise here since you guys are so deep but i prefer to lead out

its 3 to the flop in a 3bet pot so although you are 150bb deep the spr is pretty low