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Skew   United States. Aug 19 2010 14:36. Posts 62 | | | |
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boreHM   Netherlands. Aug 20 2010 16:21. Posts 1595 | | |
well if he really never folds to 3bets then you can just make it a bit bigger pre why not? this will get you less action from regs and the same amount of action from him
if he still has some kind of 59% range on the river then you obviously have that crushed, but does he bluff his entire range? does he ever bluff? |
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wakamaru   United States. Aug 20 2010 18:54. Posts 236 | | |
well i dunt ever think he has JJ+ here since he flatted a raise pre as well as he didnt 4bet. regarding the preflop sizing i think 18 would be better since the opponents seem to be a bit stationy. on the river vs realdraw, it's a matter of whether u think he's more likely to spazz bluff more or call off more. if he has a 4x or 9x i'd just chalk it up as cooler vs fish. i think check calling is better because he's very liable to fold 88 below and he could have a bunch of Ax or something in his range or total air that's gonna spazz shove that river =T |
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JSquids   United States. Aug 20 2010 19:23. Posts 1142 | | |
| | On August 20 2010 17:54 wakamaru wrote:
well i dunt ever think he has JJ+ here since he flatted a raise pre as well as he didnt 4bet. regarding the preflop sizing i think 18 would be better since the opponents seem to be a bit stationy. on the river vs realdraw, it's a matter of whether u think he's more likely to spazz bluff more or call off more. if he has a 4x or 9x i'd just chalk it up as cooler vs fish. i think check calling is better because he's very liable to fold 88 below and he could have a bunch of Ax or something in his range or total air that's gonna spazz shove that river =T |
i hate the first sentance. he can easily have JJ+ do u really think this guy HAS a 4 bet range???? lol??? |
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I call and hate life given how the board ran out. |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Aug 20 2010 20:44. Posts 8649 | | |
i don't see the point of betting turn if you're going to c-f river. if you're trying to get thin value from 55-88 or ace high you can accomplish the same thing on river if turn goes check-check, board is about as non-drawy as you can get. but as played yeah agree with dusty i just click call and feel meh about it.
i would either bet turn and shove river myself, or i would check turn and evaluate (and also check river if he checks back turn). in general the turn is a spot where a lot of fish love to check back 9x or 4x so if he has one of those i would expect him to check back turn pretty often and bet either a retardedly big or retardedly small amount on the river and make my decision relatively easier either way.
given that it's 4-way makes me lean towards checking the turn and evaluating over barreling for value. but yeah after 78 hands with a 59/18 i would expect to have enough reads on his postflop play to make this a straightforward decision most of the time. i mean does he bluff or not? lol |
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mnj   United States. Aug 21 2010 00:04. Posts 3848 | | |
| | On August 20 2010 18:23 JSquids wrote:
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On August 20 2010 17:54 wakamaru wrote:
well i dunt ever think he has JJ+ here since he flatted a raise pre as well as he didnt 4bet. regarding the preflop sizing i think 18 would be better since the opponents seem to be a bit stationy. on the river vs realdraw, it's a matter of whether u think he's more likely to spazz bluff more or call off more. if he has a 4x or 9x i'd just chalk it up as cooler vs fish. i think check calling is better because he's very liable to fold 88 below and he could have a bunch of Ax or something in his range or total air that's gonna spazz shove that river =T |
i hate the first sentance. he can easily have JJ+ do u really think this guy HAS a 4 bet range???? lol???
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+1 to he can have JJ-QQ but -10 cause he's not shoving river for thin value |
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Snaggle   United States. Aug 21 2010 01:49. Posts 91 | | |
considering his range JJ+ is certainly in it; but from him I would be more worried he has a 4 or 9. He seems a calling station, so I would fold here and take him down on another hand. |
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WastedGate   United States. Aug 21 2010 16:14. Posts 667 | | |
I call here prolly and get pissed at 97o or fist pump against A high. It really depends on whether you've seen him bluff or not. |
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WastedGate   United States. Aug 21 2010 17:23. Posts 667 | | | |
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Maynard!   United States. Aug 21 2010 19:17. Posts 4453 | | |
You guys are some real optimistic mother fuckers thinkin a dude is gonna call a 3b then float flop and turn with air then shove it on the river. |
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traxamillion   United States. Aug 21 2010 20:43. Posts 10468 | | | |
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Oly   United Kingdom. Aug 21 2010 21:23. Posts 3585 | | | |
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