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k3rn3l Hungary. Aug 18 2010 10:32. Posts 217 | | | |
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TheHuHu3 United States. Aug 18 2010 11:01. Posts 5544 | | |
Hand 1 I fold.
Hand 2 is easiest VB ever. |
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Spicy United States. Aug 18 2010 11:31. Posts 1027 | | |
what are you expecting to get called by that's worse in hand 2? I only see like 77 with a diamond maybe. 11/11 over 9 hands doesn't say too much but it means he prob doesn't have that many 8s in his blind defense range. Seems a little thin to me unless we get a read that he can get to the river and hero call with bare A of diamonds |
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sweetbread Czech Republic. Aug 18 2010 12:26. Posts 159 | | |
Fold hand 1. 11.50 in hand 2 |
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joLin United States. Aug 18 2010 15:44. Posts 3818 | | | |
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I think hand one is a pretty easy call, board is pretty drawy he can peel with lots of stuff. You've also put in 1/4 of your stack in already.
Hand 2 not sure |
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Almebeast Sweden. Aug 18 2010 18:47. Posts 797 | | |
Hand 2: I like to check behind vs unknown. vs someone who has seen you bluff with missed draws etc you should value bet. |
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joLin United States. Aug 18 2010 19:03. Posts 3818 | | |
| | On August 18 2010 17:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:
You've also put in 1/4 of your stack in already. |
pretty irrelevant. |
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JSquids United States. Aug 18 2010 22:01. Posts 1142 | | |
| | On August 18 2010 18:03 joLin wrote:
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On August 18 2010 17:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:
You've also put in 1/4 of your stack in already. |
pretty irrelevant.
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i actually agree with jolin here. super irrelevant, super ez fold |
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Snaggle United States. Aug 19 2010 01:07. Posts 91 | | |
Hand #1 Easy fold. The rule of thumb is that passive players only ever raise with nuts or near nut hands.
Hand #2 He's chasing and missing most of the time here and practicing pot control the rest. I would check behind on the river as unless you've been very crazy worse is not calling you here often. |
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soberstone United States. Aug 19 2010 01:49. Posts 2662 | | |
Hand 1 is a fold
Hand 2 is a check |
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basal . Aug 19 2010 07:19. Posts 3 | | |
hand 1 I probably fold but I think it's close between calling and folding
hand 2 depends on how fast he called flop and turn I guess.. If he is like snap calling I'm most certainly shoving this river, If he takes his time, I'd b/f small like 11.50 again or tend more to check behind. |
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k3rn3l Hungary. Aug 19 2010 08:38. Posts 217 | | |
in hand 2 he check/called fast.
in hand 1 additional info I wasnt aware till I reviewed my session: he got stacked 5 hands before, called utg's raise with AJs on button, and then the sb's 3bet along with utg. flop came: J99, checked to him, he bet the pot and got it in his 70BB stack vs utg's KJs, and lost to the turn river T Q. |
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Hand 1: Shouldn't you be betting 100% pot on turn?
Hand 2: How many hands are really calling a river bet? I'd check. |
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hand 1: i can't put him on a hand so i call this. at worst you can get a good note out of this. but i dont like folding to big bets out of nowhere with no believable story. imo he can never have a 4, or at least its very hard. if he does have a 4 you will make your money back later.
he might play a set this way? or maybe 65s or something but it is doubtfull to me.
hand 2: i would vbet the amount he will think you are bluffing with a missed Ad, so maybe like 80%pot?
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Dogan0s United States. Aug 19 2010 11:36. Posts 902 | | |
would really love some good reasoning or a try to polarize vilains range so we can fold hand #1 cause i would snap vs such a vilain.
hand 2 , pretty easy vbet i think...tho he will be folding most of the time , his line seems like he is holding a big diamond. |
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YoMeR United States. Aug 19 2010 14:00. Posts 12438 | | |
Just saying but you do realize the info you posted on both villain's means absolutely nothing? Vs unknown I like how you played both hands. now fold in the first hand and the 2nd hand is a great chance to take someone to value town. prob bet something 1/2 or 3/5th pot and fold to shove depending on how much you think he'll call. |
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enfant Bulgaria. Aug 19 2010 14:34. Posts 388 | | |
Hand 1 - I would check behind turn most of the time. Call some rivers, depending on the size of his bet. As played I fold this river every time.
Hand 2 - I would check behind river |
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k3rn3l Hungary. Aug 20 2010 20:45. Posts 217 | | |
thank guys for the input, I put the results in spoiler:
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in hand 1 I folded, I get tons of situation on the river when a draw gets there and my opponent just jams his stack in, for me its hard to decide if its a bluff or a value bet (probably the latter majority of the times)
in hand 2 I was considering betting, but then I got scared and could imagine him holding either one big diamond hands (like Ad Jx) or some made hands and I hated to bet/fold so I checked. Villain showed Td9d for the flush. First I felt good with this hand but than I started to think would it been better to bet something small to get value from the occasional 8 or other one pair hands. |
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