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Evi   Israel. Aug 16 2010 13:35. Posts 3

Alright, i and a friend had this argument and i need the community's help lol, cos i am so clueless in maths.

if you were to play the lottery or the wsop any number of times, which would you have the higher chance of winning?
could some people throw some numbers around and help me out please, much appreciated.

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player999   Brasil. Aug 16 2010 13:38. Posts 7978

1 in ~6000ish (depends on the field) at the wsop assuming no one has an edge (its easier because you should have some edge there)
1 in millions on lottery depending on which lottery

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TalentedTom    Canada. Aug 16 2010 13:38. Posts 20070

Lottery obv

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qwerty67890   New Zealand. Aug 16 2010 13:40. Posts 14026

lottery for sure

in the WSOP ME you will need to win something like 15+ coin flips over the duration of the tournament, the odds of that are astranomical.

In the lottery youve only got to guess 6 numbers out of a possible 40 or something, which isnt that hard.


Baalim   Mexico. Aug 16 2010 13:44. Posts 34312

it depends, is Jason Ho registered in the main event? if so... lottery.

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player999   Brasil. Aug 16 2010 13:46. Posts 7978

lol i thought id save op before the trolls step in

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Funktion   Australia. Aug 16 2010 14:11. Posts 1638

I'll take away a lot of peoples potential replies by saying, "They are both 50/50".


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Aug 16 2010 14:35. Posts 8918

main event obv, unless you happen to be seated with nanonoko, in that case better try the lottery.


Twisted    Netherlands. Aug 16 2010 14:56. Posts 10422

Yeah they're both 50/50, so same. You either win or you don't.


hallizh   Iceland. Aug 16 2010 14:56. Posts 110

I'd take WSOP ME, but i'd make my daughter play the lottery.

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qwerty67890   New Zealand. Aug 16 2010 15:03. Posts 14026


  On August 16 2010 13:56 Twisted wrote:
Yeah they're both 50/50, so same. You either win or you don't.



yeah but you have to spend $10k to play the ME and youve got 1 chance of winning.

if you spent $10k on lottery tickets youd have 10,000x as many chances of winning it as you do the ME.


Twisted    Netherlands. Aug 16 2010 15:34. Posts 10422

You still win or not, so still 50/50 imo.


TalentedTom    Canada. Aug 16 2010 15:55. Posts 20070


  On August 16 2010 14:34 Twisted wrote:
You still win or not, so still 50/50 imo.



Unless Phil ivey is playing that tourney - then it's more like 10, 000, 000 : 1

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Twisted    Netherlands. Aug 16 2010 16:02. Posts 10422

But then Nanonoko plays the lottery and it's 1:1 again!


GiYoM   Korea (South). Aug 16 2010 16:04. Posts 455

lol


qwerty67890   New Zealand. Aug 16 2010 16:20. Posts 14026


  On August 16 2010 14:34 Twisted wrote:
You still win or not, so still 50/50 imo.



no its like 90/10 if you have 10,000 lottery tickets.

infact it might be 100% coz u can probably get every combination possible for $10,000


terrybunny19240   United States. Aug 16 2010 16:33. Posts 13829


  On August 16 2010 12:40 byrnesam wrote:
lottery for sure

in the WSOP ME you will need to win something like 15+ coin flips over the duration of the tournament, the odds of that are astranomical.

In the lottery youve only got to guess 6 numbers out of a possible 40 or something, which isnt that hard.



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tutz   Brasil. Aug 16 2010 16:35. Posts 2140

seriously now...!

here in brazil (1 U$ = 1.80 R$) you have to guess 6 numbers out of 60, that means your chance of winning is 1out of 50,000,000
the ticket cost R$1.50.
with U$10,000 (R$18,000) you can buy 12,000 tickets, so your chances now are 1 out of 4,667

in the WSOP ME considering a field of 7,000 and that nobody has an edge the chances are the same for everyone = 1 out of 7,000, so if are a newbie to poker your chances are worse and if you are a pro your chances are a lot better obv

you also have to consider that most of the time the lottery prize is smaller than the WSOP ME first place prize

I would call it a tie unless I'm Phil Ivey lol

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ggplz   Sweden. Aug 16 2010 16:54. Posts 16784

this is far too complicated to work out
but the odds are approximately 2-1

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blackjacki2   United States. Aug 16 2010 17:08. Posts 2582

The odds of winning the main event have a lot to do with how good you are which makes the question almost impossible to answer.


 
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