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400nl line check: turn b3b vs lag

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SemPeR   Canada. Aug 13 2010 01:33. Posts 2288

Submitted by : SemPeR

***** Hand History for Game 3434619770 ***** (Prima)
$400.00 USD NL Texas Holdem - Tuesday, July 20, 11:36:25 ET 2010
Table Walk the Line 2 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: wtf-is-fold ( $469.60 USD )
Seat 2: OttoOgEugen ( $418.00 USD )
Seat 3: douglas1 ( $521.93 USD )
Seat 4: Hero ( $547.38 USD )
Seat 5: calibrat ( $561.50 USD )
Seat 6: SimpleBot ( $81.10 USD )
OttoOgEugen posts small blind [$2.00 USD].
douglas1 posts big blind [$4.00 USD].

Holecards
   6h5h
Hero raises [$12.00 USD]
calibrat folds
SimpleBot folds
wtf-is-fold calls [$12.00 USD]
OttoOgEugen folds
douglas1 folds

Flop (Pot : $30.00)

   4s9c7h
Hero bets [$20.00 USD]
wtf-is-fold calls [$20.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $70.00)

   4s9c7hJc
Hero bets [$48.00 USD]
wtf-is-fold raises [$133.00 USD]
Hero



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 Last edit: 13/08/2010 01:51

Zalfor   United States. Aug 13 2010 02:24. Posts 2236

u have odds? if so call. and maybe lead river.

if not, fold. doesnt look like you have odds though.


but if you relay want to raise, just jam the turn. he might just dime up and fold QXcc because he thinks hes not getting odds against A high.


Highcard   Canada. Aug 13 2010 06:35. Posts 5428

if you honestly think he has that much bluff range that probably still ships, draw range and ship range that is not made but higher than you than you can call and since you are first to act, shove most rivers. I think 3 betting the turn is bad

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Highcard   Canada. Aug 13 2010 06:38. Posts 5428

unless you have a strong enough read that he raises turn/folds a lot or something weird like that

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Grass.nS)   United States. Aug 13 2010 13:23. Posts 400

Villain shouldn't be pure bluffing turn since your range for betting this turn is pretty strong and the flop would be a better spot to raise as a pure bluff. I think villain's range on the turn contains a few combo draws (KQcc, KTcc, AQcc, 68cc, etc), and hands he can have for value are 8Ts, a slowplayed set on the flop, J9s, and sometimes JJ.

Haven't run stove on this spot, but I'm fairly sure his range is not really going to be folding too often to a turn 3bet. Your hand has zero showdown value so your only hope is to bluff him off the pot (probably only viable by calling turn and donking river), or by calling his turn raise and getting the money in when you hit your straight. Pretty sure you don't have correct odds to call for the straight, add that to the fact that the 8 really makes it hard to get paid off, as well as the problem that if he did this with a club draw then you're drawing really thin. All things point to a fold here.


GameOverNoob   Canada. Apr 20 2013 20:43. Posts 961

What about check raise these flops with hands like open ended, top pair, over pairs, and sets?

@lehgoboy 

GameOverNoob   Canada. Apr 20 2013 20:46. Posts 961

and throw hands that have turn card equity.

@lehgoboy 

 



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