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ChrisKim47   United States. Aug 12 2010 15:18. Posts 173

playing live game this past weekend in mississippi.
my image is bad, haven't played a hand in a few orbits. CO and btn are tight openers, but CO is floating kids, btn range is tight here.

2 limps
HERO iso in HJ+1 30$ Ks 6s
co calls
btn calls
folds around.

flop 100$ Kd 8c 7c
HERO bets $70
co calls $70
btn calls $70

turn 310$ Kd 8c 7c 3h
HERO checks
co bets $150
btn calls $150
HERO folds

I put the guy in CO on a float, and the btn on a flush draw, but to be honest the btn could easily have had me outkicked.

after talking it over with SJM he said I played it fine, but the kid in CO was floating too much.
any thoughts?

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Zalfor   United States. Aug 12 2010 15:28. Posts 2236

i would bet bet and check consider the river if you're going to be playing a hand like K6


edzwoo   United States. Aug 12 2010 15:33. Posts 5911

Stack sizes are needed. Also, I'm sure you have more reads than just "btn and co open tight" and co floats. Are they generally good or bad? In a lot of live games BTN can easily have 8x here.

When you say your image is bad, do you mean you've been showing down tons of garbage or do you mean you have a nitty image (because you said you haven't played a hand in a few orbits)? If your image is of a total spewtard, turn should be a pretty easy valuebet imo.

If you're only worried about BTN here, I'd usually always bet turn.


ChrisKim47   United States. Aug 12 2010 16:15. Posts 173

im not sure at what point in the session i was, but i was probably sitting around 800 or so, CO covers with like 1500, btn has about 700 or so as well.

btn is good but kinda plays his hands face up, takes the safer routes. id say his range is sets, 99-JJ, KTs+ (dunno how he plays AK pre, but im guessing smooths it, saw him smooth JJ oop and donk w overpair.) and big flush draws, also mayber like T9s.

CO is decent, has tight PFR range, but his call IP range is wide. Pretty sure he's floating alot here. though he does play well postflop as pfr, hes not thaaaaaat dumb but still dumb
Ya ed, I was basically only worried about btn in this pot.

My image was pretty nitty at this point, but that kid in CO, was steaming after I 4bet AI UTG vs his SB ridiculous overbet 3bet. i made it 20, 4 callers, kid makes it 120 and I ship for 800, he snap folds JJ face up. he got up and sat to my left after that.

my image was really tight at this point in the game.

 Last edit: 12/08/2010 16:25

edzwoo   United States. Aug 12 2010 17:03. Posts 5911

BTN isn't going to raise a set on the flop in that spot? I'm trying to vision what kind of players play like that. Best I can come up with is a 21 year old smooth criminal Asian guy with slicked back hair, sunglasses and a popped collar (planning on minraising you on the turn).

It all seriousness, isn't it kinda hard for someone to have a really tight range in that spot? Steaming guy called in CO and he's on BTN. We don't have enough information just from his flop call that we can fold on the turn, esp when him calling the halfpot bet coming from CO really doesn't change his range at all except he probably won't have a set anymore.

Given info I think checking turn is fine now, but I'm definitely calling turn and seeing what happens on river.

 Last edit: 12/08/2010 17:04

edzwoo   United States. Aug 12 2010 17:08. Posts 5911

Maybe a 34 year old slightly chubby bald white guy that's actually kinda friendly, but those people usually only have 30-50bbs.

I'm probably off with my visualizations; I don't play live that often :D

Results on physical description of btn please.

 Last edit: 12/08/2010 17:22

ChrisKim47   United States. Aug 12 2010 17:23. Posts 173

ya ur probably right that BTN raises sets on that board.


ChrisKim47   United States. Aug 12 2010 17:25. Posts 173

hahaha ok, 30 yr old with a hat,
looks more like the serious type of guy, avg height of a girl


brybear22   United States. Aug 19 2010 15:03. Posts 142

Hat and sunglasses so you can't get solid read


gawdawaful   Canada. Aug 19 2010 23:49. Posts 9015

am I the only one that thinks checking the flop is goot here?

Im only good at poker when I run good 

vltava   United States. Aug 20 2010 00:37. Posts 1742

Check/raise the turn because fuck them

tooker: there is very little money in stts.  

Minsk   United States. Aug 20 2010 08:12. Posts 1558

opening K6s is okay.....but obviously exploitive play
what were you trying to exploit with your K6s open exactly?

postflop i like betting turn if you bet flop but checking flop i like too

 Last edit: 20/08/2010 08:15

 



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