NL1k: KK on 220bb

his is the site (ongame) where I have almost never played at.

But I have 3.2k hands database on villan. 30/26, 3b 8.5%, pretty aggro

Earlier he took almost every pot from me, calling me pf, than raising flop or calling and raising turn, and I couldnt hit anything.

Finally few orbits earlier I managed to doubled up on him TT vs 99 blind vs blind.



Dont know if he is capable of big bluffs here.

Whats the best line, how about pf bet sizing (its 310$ total)?

(Button was a fishy player 27/21, 3b 9.1%)

Submitted by : Soprano

***** Hand History for Game 571548385551 ***** On Game
$1000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, August 01, 10:47:22 ET 2010
Table Hyderabad Real Money
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 2: -KAPTEN std- $3476.00 USD
Seat 9: laxmir8 $965.00 USD
Seat 10: Hero $2238.00 USD
Seat 1: Jane_16 $1010.00 USD
-KAPTEN std- posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
laxmir8 posts big blind [$10.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [ ]
Hero raises [$30.00 USD]
Jane_16 calls [$30.00 USD]
-KAPTEN std- raises [$125.00 USD]
laxmir8 folds
Hero raises [$280.00 USD]
Jane_16 folds
-KAPTEN std- calls [$180.00 USD]

Flop (Pot : $625.00)

   
-KAPTEN std- checks
Hero

soprano to tylko bet bet bet w donka

Check behind. Call if bet turn and bet if he check. River depends of card and action ?

Preflop sizing is whatever gets the money in over 3 streets so $310 should be fine.

I think you can go for bet/bet/shove here with good betsizes given the dynamic you have built up. In any case, I'd never fold.

I think its a leak to automatically stack off here against average opponents, but given description it sounds like villain is probably calling ur 4 bet with his entire 3 betting range (or at least his suited 3 betting range) thinking he has implied odds. You can definitely bet here expecting value from worse and I think u can be marginally ok with getting it in vs a raise.

start by betting and continue from there

lol at responses. You're crushing the part of villain's range that he's happy to get it in with. bet $400 and watch him stack off with KQo.

This deep I like the 4bet size pre- you want him to be calling off a decent chunk of cash.

Any other advice mr 3 posts?

On September 01 2010 08:54 delete wrote: lol at responses. You're crushing the part of villain's range that he's happy to get it in with. bet $400 and watch him stack off with KQo. This deep I like the 4bet size pre- you want him to be calling off a decent chunk of cash.

+1

i think anywhere from 200 to 390 on flop is fine

On September 01 2010 09:36 Jun wrote: Any other advice mr 3 posts?

this is quite rude, and very unnecessary. especially considering the source.

not its not, "delete" started his post with "lol at responses".

So....uh......fuck him...

Extremely suspicious/certain I met him at a party a few days ago and he's good. Hiya.

you sized it to create play pf and so i think you need to continue your story and that your intent here should be to drag him along and i think that this hand will have a big impact in the future against him if it gets to showdown

i like 390 pf and bomb it down with the intent of getting functionally AI on the turn but i can see the merits of creating play pf and in that case I don't see much wrong at all with checking behind; in this manner you are implicitly continuing to feel him out, showing respect for him i guess.

i do think you need to be doing both though and simply letting the effective stack and your pattern recognition ability drive your behaviour should be functionally unreadable

like, this spot is ez but the meta is hard if that makes any sense, i think you may be overemphasizing the importance of meta, just fucking, KK, big hand, 4 handed, bomb it, good flop, bomb it, fuck any turn card

yes. if you want to be able to approach this player indirectly in the future, check behind, thereby enhancing the probability of this going to showdown for a win thereby letting you polarize your range to the good in the future if you need it, this just allows that sort of concept to be available for usage. if you want to be able to play straight value against him and feel comfortable playing strength vs strength, and roll is not an issue, take the bombing run.

it's like, over time, both concepts will eventually become available for usage. it's more about what do you want to do right now than anything else. in a sense you are sort of trading straight EV for information with a smaller reraise pre. on the flop the question becomes, do you want to trade just a little more and in that case i think you need to have a plan for what to do with it in the future.

for instance, checking behind and gaybetting it twice with alot of thought would be sort of beautiful and elegant in alot of ways.

so yeah i hate that you actually have to think on the flop in position, i think you lack the conceptual framework behind why it is that you fagged it up pf for seemingly no reason, and so i think that in this case a check is clear.

everything he's done reeks of ineptitude and indicates gaps in his conceptual framework, this needs to be bombed, i'm even starting to like 440 pf and open shipping this flop.