standardish MTT spot

The original shipper has been really active PF, and shipping a lot over iso's. He also shipped his SB over my button 3b when the CO opened. The second shipper I'm pretty sure is an MTT pro for whatever its worth. This is a random 22r. The limper had been limping frequently.

Do I still get this in?

Submitted by : nolan

PokerStars Game #47592039779: Tournament #323011037, $20+$2 USD Holdem No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2010/08/01 23:24:46 ET
Table 323011037 37 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: ricey23 (14108 in chips)
Seat 2: AZ303030 (9065 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero (11595 in chips)
Seat 4: Improved (9850 in chips)
Seat 5: phillyJbizee (15664 in chips)
Seat 6: Guaminator (5775 in chips)
Seat 7: bklg1504 (13135 in chips)
Seat 8: THEBIGGSHOW (40653 in chips)
Seat 9: janniskahti (22697 in chips)
ricey23: posts the ante 50
AZ303030: posts the ante 50
Hero: posts the ante 50
Improved: posts the ante 50
phillyJbizee: posts the ante 50
Guaminator: posts the ante 50
bklg1504: posts the ante 50
THEBIGGSHOW: posts the ante 50
janniskahti: posts the ante 50
Guaminator: posts small blind 200
bklg1504: posts big blind 400

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero
THEBIGGSHOW: folds
janniskahti: calls 400
ricey23: folds
AZ303030: folds
Hero: raises 800 to 1200
Improved: raises 8600 to 9800 and is all-in
phillyJbizee: raises 5814 to 15614 and is all-in
Guaminator: folds
bklg1504: folds
janniskahti: folds
Hero: folds
Uncalled bet (5814) returned to phillyJbizee

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $12,850.00)

   

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $12,850.00)

   

River (Pot : $12,850.00)

   

Showdown
Improved: shows (a flush, Ace high)
phillyJbizee: shows (a flush, Ace high - King higher)
phillyJbizee collected 22250 from pot
Improved finished the tournament in 149th place

Summary
Total pot 22250 | Rake 0
Board  
Seat 1: ricey23 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: AZ303030 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: Hero folded before Flop
Seat 4: Improved showed and lost with a flush, Ace high
Seat 5: phillyJbizee (button) showed and won (22250) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: Guaminator (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: bklg1504 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: THEBIGGSHOW folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 9: janniskahti folded before Flop

yes we do imo

i mean: you do

Dunno much about MTT's but trying to learn. Dunno much about ICM either but I get the feel that the MTT-pro will ship at least things like TT+ and AK here all the time and probably worse a decent bit considering how the reshipper can have a ton of crap with that stack and you'll be hard pressed to call without an absolute monster. Basically I think that ranges-wise you're far ahead or ahead of both of them almost always so unless you have ICM-considerations or "don't want to risk your tournament life" (which is something I say with far less sarcasm then 3 months ago) I think you need to call.

Would be cool if someone whoo actually knows MTT's could chip in though.

if the flop came sth like 223 turn 7 river 8 i think it is a call. In this situation when the ace hits the flop good fold

vs Improved I take TT+ all day without thinking it twice, specially if he thinks you are isolating the limper he's gonna open his range wayy too much

phillyJbizee sounds familiar so I guess he probably knows Improved and knows that his range is prob going to be wide in this spot and will ship with a good part of his top range like JJ+AK i think...

It's a close call/fold, vs Improved is a no brainer but the other guy makes the spot semi-difficult, if you fold you are going to be on the 25BB mark which I think its still pretty good considering your skills I think you have a decent edge over the rest so I don't think folding is that bad

lol folding here is terribad

I think folding / calling are both fine.

Mierzwix lol?

On August 03 2010 08:31 iop wrote: I think folding / calling are both fine. Mierzwix lol?

look at this hand u have QQ

no, nolan had QQ

"I think folding / calling are both fine.
nolan had QQ"

if nolan has QQ folding is fine- I agree