5/10 Two river spots

SO generall no reads since it's a new skin where I have never played before.

I had just one hand earlier with villan from hand #1
I opened JJ from HJ, he called from Button, than shortstack on bb (50bb) squeezed, I pushed and villan called with AK

any thoughts?
do you like leading in #2 much more ?

Submitted by : Soprano

***** Hand History for Game 557539584584 ***** On Game
$1000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, May 31, 10:31:13 ET 2010
Table Southampton Real Money
Seat 7 is the button
Seat 8: Hero $1035.00 USD
Seat 9: raphaelbis $1082.00 USD
Seat 10: patoubg $594.25 USD
Seat 1: I_Has_Nutz $1944.00 USD
Seat 7: kokoari $1267.00 USD
Hero posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
raphaelbis posts big blind [$10.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [ ]
patoubg folds
I_Has_Nutz folds
kokoari folds
Hero raises [$25.00 USD]
raphaelbis calls [$20.00 USD]

Flop (Pot : $55.00)

   
Hero bets [$40.00 USD]
raphaelbis calls [$40.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $135.00)

   
Hero bets [$105.00 USD]
raphaelbis calls [$105.00 USD]

River (Pot : $345.00)

   
Hero bets [$280.00 USD]
raphaelbis raises [$907.00 USD]

***** Hand History for Game 557539584608 ***** On Game
$1000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, May 31, 10:49:16 ET 2010
Table Southampton Real Money
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 7: kokoari $1596.00 USD
Seat 8: Hero $1015.00 USD
Seat 9: raphaelbis $1569.00 USD
Seat 10: ULchris82 $1059.00 USD
Seat 1: I_Has_Nutz $1564.00 USD
kokoari posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$10.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [ ]
raphaelbis folds
ULchris82 folds
I_Has_Nutz raises [$25.00 USD]
kokoari calls [$20.00 USD]
Hero calls [$15.00 USD]

Flop (Pot : $75.00)

   
kokoari checks
Hero checks
I_Has_Nutz checks

Turn (Pot : $75.00)

   
kokoari checks
Hero bets [$50.00 USD]
I_Has_Nutz calls [$50.00 USD]
kokoari folds

River (Pot : $175.00)

   
Hero bets [$130.00 USD]
I_Has_Nutz raises [$280.00 USD]

#1: seems like a snap call. he can have lots of worse 2 pairs and you're only really beat by JTcc

#2: yeah i generally tend to lead more often than c/r in this spot because i don't think villain is going to be cbetting this flop into 2 people with air all that often. river seems like a fold even though you're getting really good odds. you would think 7x would raise the turn (or cbet flop) and even if he can float the turn with some Qx's, it also seems really unlikely he'd value raise them when he does get there, so i think it's almost always a flush

#1 is never a worse 2 pairs.... he either turned a hand into a bluff or he has JTcc, or maybe some very tricky set and 32s

#2 check/call and bet/fold are both fine imo

1. Snap if he is capable of any moves at all, you are losing to 1 combo.
2. With that size I think he has a flush 100% of the time, coming over the top might be an option but tbh nobody folds flushes so just fold.

its sb vs bb evilsky, I would include 23s in his range

1. call
2. fold

Hand 1 thats a big raise but I don't think you can fold.
Hand 2 is cool, you could bet/3bet river sometimes, but people don't like folding when their hand is faceup. I guess betting is just getting value from a 7, Q5s, Q6s. c/c seems best.

so in #1 you think he is turning his hand into bluff often enough its profitable ? imo he is never vb worse
If the guy is able to bluff here busted FD, isnt he a kind of a player who raises FD on the flop or turn?
Do you think he is bluffing his Ax often enough ? Q on riv its not a good card for bluffing

My sizing is quite strong and with that board I guess its not the ebst spot to bluff

I have a hard time folding hand #1 to anyone (live or online), call fast imo

Hand #2 is easy fold imo, the range that beats you here is much wider

On June 02 2010 13:28 Fayth wrote: its sb vs bb evilsky, I would include 23s in his range

Why would he play 23s like that even if he has it in his range which a lot of people wont anyways or they would 3b a decent % of the time.

how else should he play it? raise turn 100% of the time? I'd play it like that and think it would be fine, he probably has JTcc anyway but it looks like everyone here is calling expecting to lose and thinking to themselves "oh well he got lucky, setup on the river, his range is so narrow anyway"

yeah hand 1 i think u need some history if ur gonna bluff-catch a shove over a 3 barrel.

furs one is a snap
second is fold obv

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