PLO2, preflop and flop play

Submitted by : Wtf.NotMe

PokerStars Game #43346305980: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2010/04/29 13:58:36 EET [2010/04/29 6:58:36 ET]
Table Sekanina 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($3.72 in chips)
Seat 2: dzn7 ($4.98 in chips)
Seat 3: FrankyFly2 ($4.98 in chips)
Seat 5: ForestGamp ($1.16 in chips)
Seat 6: putrycy ($2.96 in chips)
dzn7: posts small blind $0.01
FrankyFly2: posts big blind $0.02

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
ForestGamp: raises $0.05 to $0.07
putrycy: calls $0.07
Hero: raises $0.17 to $0.24
dzn7: calls $0.23
FrankyFly2: folds
ForestGamp: calls $0.17
putrycy: calls $0.17

Flop (Pot : $0.98)

   
dzn7: checks
ForestGamp: bets $0.92 and is all-in
putrycy: raises $1.80 to $2.72 and is all-in
Hero: raises $0.76 to $3.48 and is all-in
dzn7: folds
Uncalled bet ($0.76) returned to Hero

Turn (Pot : $4.62)

   

River (Pot : $4.62)

   

Showdown

In a 3-bet pot this flop is the nuts. Most fish will assume you have AAxx and this is pretty much the best flop you could get.

Another Q,
can I call a 4bet pre given the stacks and be happy about it? Or should I be folding ? Or maybe shoving ?
If I cant call, what should the effective stacks be to make the call profitable?

On April 30 2010 03:45 Wtf.NotMe wrote: Another Q, can I call a 4bet pre given the stacks and be happy about it? Or should I be folding ? Or maybe shoving ? If I cant call, what should the effective stacks be to make the call profitable?

yes u can

you need to loosen up or get more confidence in your game. So far the hands you've posted in this forum are asking about stacking off with top set + nut flush draw on the flop, stacking off preflop with aces, and stacking off with top 2 + OESD in 3bet pot. Basically every thread you have posted is "I have the nuts, should I fold?"

Really dont like the preflop 3bet, since forrest is shortstacked and can easily ship with AA** and we only have 38% equity against that. If he happens to have KK** we are in even worse shape. Flatting here is way better i think. We have a hand we want to see multiway flops with, since it flops the nuts/nutdraws all the time, so inviting the blinds in with whatever crap they want to play is really good.

On May 02 2010 08:51 ytricky wrote: Really dont like the preflop 3bet, since forrest is shortstacked and can easily ship with AA** and we only have 38% equity against that. If he happens to have KK** we are in even worse shape. Flatting here is way better i think. We have a hand we want to see multiway flops with, since it flops the nuts/nutdraws all the time, so inviting the blinds in with whatever crap they want to play is really good.

I agree with this.

wow so you flop just about the best possible flop then think about folding? I don't like it. Even if he showed me 55 here i wouldn't fold. fuck it, gambol

this flop is easily the most beautiful thing you could possibly hope to see, ship it all day long

but yeah, don't 3bet shortstacks pre unless you're comfortable with stacking off