$10/20/40 Live PLO hand - Nuts on da turn

Fuck this game. Villan in the hand is one of the many many soft spots at the table. He's some rich doctor who over values some hands, but from what I hear he plays more PLO than NL, and I saw him lay down a set earlier on a kind of coordinated board (in that hand it was an ez fold, I was just surprised he folded caz he's a fish).

My hand =

3 limps to me on the button. I limp in for $20. Both blinds complete.

Flop: ($240)

Everyone checks around pretty fast.

Turn: ($240)

Everyone checks to me, I bet pot $240. Both blinds fold, and Villan who was the 1st limper re-pots $720. He has ~$2300 behind. You...

I'd ship, nuts + redraw sounds good vs someone who could have something weird and far to few blanks on the river.

Yeah easy shove. You could be freerolling and he'll have a worse hand a lot too.

Like; without a redraw it's possibly best to flatcall here but with a redraw you give up too much value in case he has AJ no redraw.

I actually think he has a better hand more often than a worse one, I dont mind calling here cuz we have position and I dont think he will valuebet a straight if the board pairs cuz our hand will look like a set that called to boat up, so we could fold if he bets there and possibly blow him off a straight when he checks. If any of the 2 flushes comes Id still call cuz its about even to which one he might have had. I might be making too many assumptions and he could be just a donk and we have the best hand right here, I think its close either way.

arent u a lil paranoid evilsky ? its pretty hard for him to have a much better hand when we have nuts + redraw, what are you afraid of ? hes a fish and hes more likely to have any naked straight than a KsKhJcAh type of hand imo... without the redraw calling seems much better as u can bluff board pairing river + flush completin river if chekd to. with the redraw its an easy ship imo

On April 17 2010 11:21 MiPwnYa wrote: arent u a lil paranoid evilsky ? its pretty hard for him to have a much better hand when we have nuts + redraw, what are you afraid of ? hes a fish and hes more likely to have any naked straight than a KsKhJcAh type of hand imo... without the redraw calling seems much better as u can bluff board pairing river + flush completin river if chekd to. with the redraw its an easy ship imo

hmm i'm with EvilSky. pretty weak redraw + you have position to own him

How do we own him though? call the reraise and ship everytime he checks regardless of card and fold on clubs and board-pairing thingys?

On April 19 2010 09:24 DustySwedeDude wrote: How do we own him though? call the reraise and ship everytime he checks regardless of card and fold on clubs and board-pairing thingys?

How is that not owning him?

He's never gonna think cosmo flatted with the nuts.

i flat cause he prolly c/f a board pairing card

On April 19 2010 10:15 AndrewSong wrote: Show nested quote + On April 19 2010 09:24 DustySwedeDude wrote: How do we own him though? call the reraise and ship everytime he checks regardless of card and fold on clubs and board-pairing thingys? How is that not owning him? He's never gonna think cosmo flatted with the nuts.

That would be owning when it works out, yea.

On April 19 2010 23:32 Roman wrote: i flat cause he prolly c/f a board pairing card

yeah this and its not even close.

the only way this hand becomes tough is if a clean heart hits river and he ships.

edit:

if he's the type of fish that would c/r a set on the turn and get it in then obv just ship it. also, if he never folds a lower straight than prob better to ship as well. if youre pretty sure youre splitting alwyas better to take a card so that you can possibly turn a chop into a bluff.

PLO is such a fcked up game zZz

There are basically two options when you get to the turn although I probably shouldn't comment on the hand given the stakes.

1. You can shove right here because you have the redraw which would be fine.

2. However there also aren't a lot of river cards that Villain is going to like. Meaning you can bluff any completion card and possibly force a splitting hand to fold on a river club/pair of the board. Assuming he's even capable of folding to a river bet on a scarecard.